Laws? We don’t need no stinking laws?! AG Alberto Gonzales demands that ISPs keep all user data for 2 years, even though there is no law requiring it!

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said today that Congress should require Internet providers to preserve customer records, asserting that prosecutors need them to fight child pornography.

The law enforcement officials have indicated to the [internet providers] they must retain customer records, possibly for two years. The companies have discussed strengthening their retention periods — which currently run the gamut from a few days to about a year — to help avoid legislation.

During those meetings, which took place earlier this summer, Justice Department officials asserted that customer records would help them investigate child pornography cases. But the FBI also said during the meetings that such records would help their terrorism investigations, said one person who attended the meetings but spoke on condition of anonymity because the meetings were intended to be private.

“This is a problem that requires federal legislation,” Gonzales told the Senate Banking Committee. “We need information. Information helps us makes cases.”

“We respect civil liberties, but we have to harmonize this so we can get more information,” he said.

So, our government has 2 arguments they use to justify blanket surveillance of all Americans: “9-11” and “we’re protecting children”. My guess is that Mom and apple pie get added in by Election Day.



  1. John says:

    “Justice Department officials asserted that customer records would help them investigate child pornography cases.”

    Yes, of course. And so would a Big Brother camera fixed on all of us 24/7. But that would lead to a totalitarian of fascist state, wouldn’t it?

  2. Pfkad says:

    This administration’s shameless duplicity is trumped only by the American people’s willingness to lap it up.

  3. Improbus says:

    I am really getting tired of the child pornography bugaboo. This administration has one tool for every occasion: FEAR.

  4. xrayspex says:

    Soylent green is made of sheeple

  5. John says:

    I am for this as long as a bunch of security percautions are made.
    1st, all the dat must be kept on a server located in Antartica, that must be set up in such a way that data can be sent to it remotely, however the records can only be accessed in person, and then Only whith a majority of the Supreme Court present, The entrity of all other courts to which the case could go before, 2/3 or more of each house present, the President also present, and a random 12 US citizens present for the “search”. Then the search is limited to a specific list of clearly defined crimes. If the individual doing the search access any records not dirrectly pertaining to the individual or individuals being investigated, then the individual doing the the search is arrested and sentenced to solitude confinement for 5 years. If they reveal information from either records they should not have accessed, or from allowed records but the information was irrelvant to the case, then a life sentence, in a prision outside of the official US juristiction.

  6. Rocco says:

    WTF… He can do whatever he wants. He IS the President!

  7. Kevin says:

    Rocco: “WTF… He can do whatever he wants. He IS the President! “

    Cuba beckons your complacent sheep ass.

  8. 0113addiv says:

    5. The Bush administration would send an oil tanker especially equipped with the world’s largest freezer to Antartica so they could bring back a 16 acre chunk of it back to Washington and store it in a top secret (could it be any other way?) hanger where everything else you suggested would be followed to the letter. There is no way to win with foxes.

  9. Mike Voice says:

    This is just part of the treaties we are ratifying…
    http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6460#comments

    Since we signed-on to the European Convention on Cybercrime
    http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/en/Treaties/Html/185.htm

    The headings of certain sections tell you all you need to know:

    Article 16 – Expedited preservation of stored computer data

    Article 17 – Expedited preservation and partial disclosure of traffic data

    Article 19 – Search and seizure of stored computer data

    Article 20 – Real-time collection of traffic data

    Article 21 – Interception of content data

  10. Mark says:

    By the look on Gonzales face, it looks like dinner and a movie tonite for those two.

  11. Mike says:

    Freedom on the march!!!

  12. tkane says:

    Only a tad over 2 years left…. I think I can hold my sword that long….

  13. TJGeezer says:

    Nah. It’s definitely post, er, “encounter.” Sure can tell who was on top, too.

  14. Mr. H. Fusion says:

    Rocco: “WTF… He can do whatever he wants. He IS the President! “
    Cuba beckons your complacent sheep ass.
    Comment by Kevin — 9/20/2006 @ 9:57 am

    Kevin, Why do you hate America?

  15. OhForTheLoveOf says:

    #12 – Only a tad over 2 years left…. I think I can hold my sword that long….

    Comment by tkane — 9/20/2006 @ 2:20 pm

    I would not break my heart if you didn’t…

    I’d follow you into hell, man…


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