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Gee you mean this whole mess might be caused be media and government over hype? Color me amazed.
Bogus bogus bogus- I agree, I think what’s happening is more flu cases are counted as swine flu. I took my gf to a clinic because of flu symptoms, they gave a cheek swab and told her she had swine flu. I told her i highly doubted she had swine flu and they’re just saying it’s swine flu. we will never know.
More specifically it’s Government and Media Hype to sell sell sell! At the Expense of the Health of the Public.
This is a garbage report itself. It is not tying up any of the absolute numbers and comparing them to resonable definitions of alarm. Everything in virtually every sentence is speculative and no real harm is shown from over precaution, while reporting on both false positives and false negatives for the tests have also been reported on by other agencies. This story ain’t ready for press yet. It is entirely inconclusive and should therefore be overlooked.
I totally get this — and am not very critical.
We are being hit hard here in the Northwest with flu — one school I work in had about 20% of the students out last week!
The kids are miserably sick but I know of none that are where in any serious danger — do we really want them all swamping the hospitals to get a diagnosis? Of course not!
They all SAY and THINK they had swine flu but surely a percentage of them had something else.
I do, however, want the CDC to accurately track this flu epidemic, even if it turns out not to be “the big one” as we feared — it should yield some useful data for a future Spanish-flu-like epidemic which seems inevitable.
And, of course, H1N1 still could be horrible.
As an aside, I recommend learning about the Spanish flu of 1918 — I just finished reading a book on it.
BY FAR many more people died from the 1918 flu then from WWI — yet it often only gets a short paragraph in history books from that era.
It’s like terrorist threat… hyped out of proportion.
>> esoterroriffik said,
>> I took my gf to a clinic because of flu symptoms, they gave a cheek swab and told her she had swine flu. I told her i highly doubted she had swine flu and they’re just saying it’s swine flu.
esterror,
Your story strikes me as bizarre.
Based on what possible evidence would you doubt her doctor? Did you go to a better medical school or something? You run your own lab tests on her?
What possible motivation would they have to lie about something like that? Why WOULD you even WANT to second guess medical professionals?
Weird.
It’s all hype to sell our product. Get with the program people and fear the Swine Flu. We are to big to fail and our 1/2 billion dollar government handout will buy some new yachts.
But, but … the sky is falling!
“Why WOULD you even WANT to second guess medical professionals?”
May all your medical visits remain positive. From my experience, I have found the medical field to be entirely human and prone to err badly on occasion.
This is actually very old news. Daily show did this bit where the number of cases went from < 10 to millions in a week or so. As you guess it, numbers all bogus and created by the news channel. Fcking aye, forget the truth…just keep tossing out numbers like there's no tomorrow.
Heard a news report out of Indiana: they were closing a school because of a large percentage of students with flu symptoms. The reporter mentioned the students were experiencing fever, nausea, muscle aches and reminded us these were “classic” symptoms of the swine flu. Uhm, Actually, they are classic symptoms of ANY flu! Why assume the exotic when the ordinary fits just as well. Occam’s Razor should apply. In medical school they taught us: if you’re at a rodeo and you hear hoof beats, think horses, not zebras!
To many people seem to have to much invested in anything with flu like symptoms being H1N1.
There are a lot of people sick. Very few of them are seriously sick. The ones that are almost always have other factors than the flu to contend with.
It’s just my opinion but I think the CDC is acting seriously stupid and so are a lot of other people. The numbers don’t add up at all.
The one fact that stands out is that a little over 80% of swine flu cases when checked aren’t. If your doctor says you have swine flu the odds he/she is right are only about 17 or 18%.
The reason current flu cases are assumed to be H1NI is because seasonal flu, to date, has not shown up in testing at state public health labs. In Iowa the only “confirmed” flu has been H1N1. My son was sick for six days with flu-like symptoms. We did not have blood drawn for a titre so we can only make an educated guess as to his illness. Schools have been hit hard here too.
As for a cheek swab being used to diagnose H1N1… they couldn’t have told you on the spot. It probably would have taken at least a week to culture the swab and identify H1N1.
Right now the hallmark of H1N1 isn’t that it is any more dangerous than seasonal flu… but it is more contagious.
No, not every case is being tested. Yet, on Wednesday last week I was talking to our County Director of Health. I did ask how many people were being tested. EVERY person showing up at the hospital was given a “field test”. These tests were all “A” type. The H1N1 is a type “A” flu. You do the math.
This story seems more of a sloppy reporting than a true representation. While they want to throw water on this NOT being H1N1, they make no attempt to explain or identify the massive epidemic sweeping the country.
Guess it is just like any figures or bills that the government or your bank finance dept sends you
Always remember figures don’t lie but liars figger
This is going to hurt Obama if true. Creating mass hysteria over basically a mild case of Flu out break with typical amount of deaths is really going to affect his leadership. But the liberal media went along with it because what else are they going to talk about? They are tired of the wars, the economy sucks and they don’t want to report that. Because it will hurt Obama. What a mess!
Old news..havent watch the vid yet, but my analysis shows they constantly mince the regular flu stats with swine flu
stats and use careful wording that will give them a legal out if a microscope is brought to bear on them.
CBS doing this means they know the scam is about to blowup in someones face and this just an end run to try and give themselves a little credibility when it does..
There are a lot of reports of major “bad” effects (like death) coming from the EU vaccinated crowd.
-that might have something to do with it..
(tongue in cheek)
It’s all part of the NWO scam, no biggie.
It will fail.
-s
Minor note:
[pre]History (and science fact) shows the worst mutations of life on the planet, happen during solar minimums. -huge influx of cosmic rays and the like..
It’s a clockwork cycle thing.
We will see come feb-march..
In the mean time.. buy some 14guage 4nine silver wire and make your own medicine..
-s
No one is going to have firm numbers for this outbreak for several years. Last month I awoke with a sore throat, and by lunch had a fever of 102 F+. Anyone with a fever that high is going to feel like shit. I tested negative for flu. It was just a bad case of bronchitis, which is enough in itself. My MD joked that the other bugs hasn’t left town for the H1N1. My wife has a cold now, no fever. She coughed going into the grocer and about five people turned around with a hateful look.
#17, jescott,
This is going to hurt Obama if true. Creating mass hysteria over basically a mild case of Flu out break with typical amount of deaths is really going to affect his leadership.
It shouldn’t. Those with any intelligence will understand that what is known is true. There is an epidemic. Those who don’t believe in the H1N1 watch FOX and think that way without any false prompting.
As far as I can tell, almost every family in my neck of the woods has been hit by this flu. While true, it is comparatively mild for most, so far over 1,000 Americans have died and 20,000 hospitalized. I guess you think those people are irrelevant.
Why do you hate America so much?
But the people on this forum told me it was all stupid paranoid rednecks who refused to vaccinate their kids for swine flu. Like the Obamas.
#22, Lyin’ Mike.
For once you are half right. It is mostly the ingrate, stupid, paranoid, ignorant rednecks that are refusing to either be or have their children vaccinated.
All essential personnel would also be vaccinated. Although it is not advertised who in the White House was vaccinated for security reasons, the President and his family would be considered essential.
Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.
#23 Mr. Fusion.
It was announced last week that Sasha and Malia were not vaccinated because they don’t fit the profile of being at high risk.
Fusion…keep licking boots slave..you’re such an ass. Looks like #24. just kicked it.
So many sheeple in these comments it hurts my head. But.. but.. the media said there was an epidemic! So it must be true!
If only they could have kept the lid on this for a few more months, they could have praised the success of the vaccine at preventing so many swine flu cases.
#24, real,
Sorry, it took all of five seconds to google the answer. They have both been vaccinated.
While this article says the President and Mrs Obama have not been vaccinated, I don’t think anyone would argue the Presidency is not a essential position. Well, OK, the ingrate, stupid, paranoid, ignorant rednecks, tea bagger, FOX SPEWS types that are refusing to either be or have their children vaccinated would argue.
#25, Mr. Mackey,
Thank you for the intelligent insight. Hey, what’s on FOX SPEWS tonight? Sorry to hear you refuse to get your own kids vaccinated.
Because even a professional is sometimes wrong.
How many people are going to die because of this. My guess… lots… but not from the flu. People will die from the delay of proper diagnosis of OTHER deseases because the CDC and government bodies have told doctors to assume they are dealing with H1N1. An epidemic? Absolutely. An epidemic of unscientific bandwagon idiocy promoted by a “lets make it up as we go along” government. You want government controlled medical? Well here it is in microcosm.