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Think Progress — Tony Snow Attacks President Carter — Snow was being glib on the Don Imus Show. Unfortunately being glib when you are a government worker is not the same as when you are working for Fox. I’ve got ten bucks saying he’ll apologize for this gaffe.
Tony Snow is in no position to mock President Carter for vacationing. President Bush has spent more time vacationing than any president in modern history, with 319 days worth as of August 2005. President Carter took 79 vacation days during his 4 years in office, the lowest of any president in modern history.
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Official 8×10 Autographed photo of Tony Snow from Fox News. Suitable for framing.
Let’s not forget that lazy bastard Roosevelt.
They had to constantly wheel him around during WWII – even when he was on vacation.
Then there’s that freeloader Kennedy, but damn, he could pick up women.
What we really need running the world again is someone of high moral fibre and integrity. Where’s that Nixon chap when you need him? Didn’t he free Vietnam and make Cambodia a great place to live under those Khymer Rouge chappies?
As to decorum: why are you people so hung up on idolizing your Chancellors, erm, I mean Presidents? It’s a bizarrely Germanic in social attitude – and look what happen to them.
>Mysteriously, the hostages were released the day Reagan took office.
Yeah real mysterious why they would avoid getting on Reagan’s bad side. I wonder why Libya gave up its weapons programs. Also mysterious why Bin Laden was offering a truce to the US afgter his forces were decimated.
No soldiers lost in combat while Clinton was in office? Ever heard of Somalia?
Imus is a dickhead for suggesting Carter is a dope. I have no idea why he is on the air. Has anyone ever heard a sensible comment from him?
Snow is just another Bush dickhead trying to have people look elsewhere then at Bush. When your boss is as low in the polls as Bush is, you do whatever it takes to make him look better. Even inventing false images.
And it was so nice to see that most of the very few Bush supporters dropped by to show their support for the King Dickhead.
Catbeller –
You’re on the wrong thread, dude. The stash is in the Home Depot vanities in the next thread.
I’m not idolizing anyone, Aussie (and Moss). I will happily vote Democratic the moment that they have a candidate who is less of a blithering idiot than the Republican candidate. Sadly, that hasn’t happened in a couple of decades.
#38 – Good point. I hear alot of people saying about the idiots that voted in Bush but nothing about the idiots that voted in the primaries to put up the opposing candidate.
#39, that is one of the big downfalls of America’s presidential primary system. Many of us don’t even get the chance to vote for our favorite party candidate, because he/she might not have done well in New Hampshire or Iowa, and had to withdraw as their funding dried up. Starting with that very first primary, every mediocre showing makes raising campaign funds that much harder. As we all know, the importance of money in a presidential campaign can’t be overstated. Personally, I would have voted for Wesley Clark over John Kerry, but his money ran out before I had the chance. Maybe someday I’ll get that chance.
Early states have far too much influence on the process.
Who seriously doubts that Carter will go down as the best ex-president in US history? Most presidents just squander it with eindless golfing financed by huge speaking fees. Carter has worked hard on many of the most important issues of our time.
Ford, Bush Sr and Clinton have all done some good stuff but NOBODY can touch Carter.
Yet, pundits are willing to go on-record being on the wrong side of history. I guess this doesn’t bother them because they know they’ll quickly be forgotten.
It’s quality, not quantity of work that counts, gregallen.
Carter has certainly done a lot since he was voted out of office in a landslide 20 years ago, but little of it has been good.
Among other things, Carter will be remembered for having a huge share of the responsibility for North Korea’s becoming a nuclear power, and for interfering in the electoral processes of at least two countries (Nicaragua and Venezuela).
Carter was NOT a good President. The oil embargo and the hostage crisis happened on his watch and like everyone left of Newt Gingrich likes to say about Bush, it dosen’t matter what led up to it, it became his problem to solve. Cater not only had no answers to anything that took place on his watch(except lowering the thermostat to 62), even his own party (which controlled both houses of congress) didn’t support him.
I do admire his charity work with Habitat for Humanity and others, not many ex-Presidents can match that. But his *election monitoring* is a bit of a farce. And injecting himself into the North Korean nuke thing was really bad.
Tony Snow said nothing insulting in that interview nor anything untrue about Carter. Unlike Carter who never misses a chance to bash Bush, and dosen’t care where he does it. The Corretta King funeral was really over the top….even the King family were appalled at that.
The little club of exPresidents usually refrain from dirct critisim of eachother. Bush goes out of his way to be nice to the others and get their help when possible. And he and Clinton seem to actually like eachother, even Hillary and Laura get along and are friendly. But none of them get along with Carter. He comes across as a sweet, nice old man but from all accountants is a hard edged, self-rightious hypocrite.
The words of a Democrat, by the way, not mine. Think former Senator Daschle.
On #25-I sure that “Its not hard to determine (my) political inclination”, given that I didn’t include taking the required shot at a Clinton, a Kennedy or any other party with which you might have a difference of opinion. Since your comment was not about the subject of my comment, but focused on where I stand politically relative to you, let me clarify that. Where I stand depends on what I believe is right. I don’t check it against talking points handed down from the thought coach to give simple minded players something to babble about when they happened across their worse nightmare, a liberal or an honest member of the press. I didn’t vote for Carter by the way, and thought he was a fairly weak President. This doesn’t preclude the belief that he deserves some respect for his post Presidential efforts or his right to express his opinion as any ordinary American, without being trashed by those with no other purpose than to belittle anyone with a difference of opinion.
gary, did you give money to any of those candidates who did so badly early? You might have volunteered and kept their campaign afloat. Clark won one primary, though I’d say he was terrible too. He wass attacking Kerry’s war heroism first, saying ‘He’s a lieutenant and I’m a general.’
…(Clark) wass attacking Kerry’s war heroism first, saying ‘He’s a lieutenant and I’m a general.’
abcd, there you go with that revisionist history again. When are you ever going to start reading for yourself and stop taking Limbaugh, O’Reilly, and the other idiots take on the subject. Clark often reminded people that Kerry’s medals were earned and deserved a hero’s respect. The one time Clark suggested anything about his own military position he was smacked down by the republican press and never repeated it, possibly costing him the party’s nomination. The context of his remark was that he has decades of executive experience. But of coarse, the truth just doesn’t work into the neo-con spin.
#45 says of Clark, “He was attacking Kerry’s war heroism first, saying ‘He’s a lieutenant and I’m a general.'”
If you think that was an attack, I guess you must have slept through the general election. Kerry was called every name in the book, including a traitor. Calling him a lieutenant seems a rather mild attack in retrospect. And no, I didn’t make a donation to Clark’s campaign. I wish I could have made a difference. Sometimes it takes a lot of money to get first-rate democracy. I only wish we had an extended warranty plan to cover hidden defects and other unforeseen circumstances. I would certainly donate to the warranty fund.
I take one thing back. There was one name Kerry was never called — “Satan,” but it was implied once or twice.
This isn’t about Carter being a good or bad president. Its about Tony Snow insinuating that he was always on vacation when the shit hit the fan where as Bush is suppose to be this model of perfect attendance.
The truth is that no president is ever on vacation, regardless of where he or she might be. The Country has invested much dime in making this so.
The entire argument line is specious and Tony Snow is a scumbag not for what he said, but because he said it to deflect criticism from Bush and because he works for Murdock.