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Doling out our money: How jobless foreigners who go home can STILL claim benefits here | Mail Online — I wonder what the logic is.
Jobless Eastern Europeans who return home are being paid dole money by the British taxpayer, it emerged last night. Thousands who leave because they have lost their jobs in the economic downturn could benefit from the £60-a-week handouts.
They stem from a little-known EU directive which says that provided an unemployed worker is seeking a job in their homeland, they can continue to be paid benefits by the country where they were laid off.
Job centre managers in Poland are even holding workshops and seminars on how claimants can keep using the UK for unemployment handouts.
Found by Norman Speight.
£60-a-week ($97) doesn’t sound like much but I guess its the principal of the thing.
What’s wrong with that? They worked there, they got laid off, now they want their benefits, like everybody else would…
Is that something like a “sourcetax”? Only the other way around.
Expect similar arrangement for illegal immigrant workers in the USA under our new Great Leader.
Better then the US. I have worked over here in the Czech Republic now for well over a year and I still have to pay taxes to the US for all moneys I make over 80k a year… I can see having to pay into Soc Sec but why else should I be paying? Oh lets not forget I have to Pay CZ takes on all of it. I wonder if Obama will lower the cap to say 50K? Now mind you I could just give up my citizenship to the US and not pay but if I ever want to return home I would owe back taxes….
@5 They were legal workers.
@5 @7
And they are under the EU law.
Nothing prevents a Suede to retire and receive it’s social security pension in southern Portugal or Spain (in fact a lot of them do just that). Same applies to Social security unemployment money.
Canadians do this stuff ALL THE TIME, too. Lots of double-dippers.
#5 – dusan maletic
I hope you feel better soon.
I think John is suggesting that the Daily Mail is fascist for its original article. Certainly the DM has a well documented hatred of “nasty smelly foreigners coming over here and stealing all our jobs” etc etc
As far as the original facts go, crazy stuff like this is always going to happen when you create an open market including both rich and poor countries. Maybe a fairer system would be that you get paid the local unemployment allowance of whatever country you’re living in. If you choose to remain in the UK then you get the 60 quid a week (and expect to have to prove that you’re still there), if you return to Poland then you get the local unemployment allowance – which I’m sure is considerably less.
The logic. “The former chief risk officer at investment bank Bear Stearns Cos., which nearly collapsed in March, is now a senior official of the Federal Reserve division that supervises U.S. banks….” AP
All these global corporate failure executives are switching over to government work. With the Bush bailout, it’s about getting paid twice for screwing all the investors. AIG used bailout funds for a big expensive hunting trip for executives in England.
“Four top AIG executives flipped U.S. taxpayers the bird by spending $86,000 on a partridge hunt at an English country … hunt at a 5-star hotel in England. …”
nydailynews.com
“A priority has been the building of our European presence through the expansion of our London office. Bear Stearns currently employs approximately 10500 …” http://www.spyfu.com/Term.aspx?t=172163
We have deputy sheriffs running around trying to collect bad credit card debt from all the locals who have lost jobs and can’t pay the bills. It’s turning into the Bush global corporate police state and the people who wrecked the banks are receiving billions of public dollars to go after the public with.
Don’t think for a minute its a huge giveaway. My mother worked in england for years, and her monthly check is 14 pounds (20 dollars more or less, before taxes).
They were made unemployed so they had payed their credits. Benefits are NOT paid from taxes they are paid from National Insurance contributions which you are entitled to claim back for 6months after you have been made unemployed as long as you paid in 1 years worth of credits.
If THEY were tax payers and National Insurance payers they are entitled to the money where ever they decide to live. EU has no borders if you are a EU citizen.
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Proof… or GTFO.
It’s very difficult to successfully get EI benefits in Canada. Basically, there are two ways: you are OFFICIALLY laid off, which means your employer has to fill out the necessary paperwork and classify your termination as LAYOFF or you’re on Parental leave. In Canada, parental leave entitles you to 1 year of leave at 55% of your wages up to a maximum of 60K per year…
Can someone please, PLEASE explain to me why in the US a CORPORATION that has absolutely no liability to losses or defaults can get government money in bad times and tax free status while making endless amounts of profits in good times is a GOOD THING, while throwing a lousy few bucks to a down-and-out bastard is anathema to the American Way?
I think it has something to do with racism. Basically, in the US, anyone who is poor is either A) lazy B) lazy and black / mexican C) lazy, black / mexican, not American.
You guys are weird. You actually believe that you can wake up one day, go to work and because you got the coffee just right you’re the CEO the next day.
That’s nothing compared to how much the British taxpayers have to give to the families of terrorists. There are a bunch of hijackers that hijacked an aircraft to the UK, claimed asylum, and each brought their wives and 6-14 kids each over and all live on a the dole.
There is an Islamic “preacher”, really a terrorist sponsor, that was deported back to Lebanon, yet his family still lives in a large London home for free thanks to taxpayers, and claims hundreds of Pounds of a month in welfare benefits.
This is almost as stupid as the US giving tax breaks to companies that move our jobs overseas.
I’m sorry but I fail to see how this is wrong exactly. They are EU citizens, thus EU wide law applies to them. Their last point of employment was the UK, this is where they paid into the social security funds etc. Now if they lost their job by no fault of their own, they can receive unemployment benefits either in the UK or in their home country, provided it is within the EU and they are actively looking for a job. This is no different than someone from the UK working on Poland, losing his job and moving back home. It is an excellent incentive to move abroad and work in another European country for some time, without the fear of being totally lost and cut off should you move back home. Similar rules apply to pension payments btw. If anything this is one of the positive things that the EU brought to its citizens. Is it open for abuse? Certainly. But those who want to abuse it can so just as well within the UK.