Primary school children should be eligible for the DNA database if they exhibit behaviour indicating they may become criminals in later life, according to Britain’s most senior police forensics expert.

Gary Pugh, director of forensic sciences at Scotland Yard and the new DNA spokesman for the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo), said a debate was needed on how far Britain should go in identifying potential offenders, given that some experts believe it is possible to identify future offending traits in children as young as five…

Pugh admitted that the deeply controversial suggestion raised issues of parental consent, potential stigmatisation and the role of teachers in identifying future offenders, but said society needed an open, mature discussion on how best to tackle crime before it took place. There are currently 4.5 million genetic samples on the UK database – the largest in Europe – but police believe more are required to reduce crime further. ‘The number of unsolved crimes says we are not sampling enough of the right people,’ Pugh told The Observer…

Keep an eye on everyone. Especially the nutballs who are keeping an eye on everyone.




  1. Cinaedh says:

    Haven’t the Limeys learned anything from the U.S.?

    First you put one out of every ten people in jail – then you build more jails!!!

    🙂

  2. jbellies says:

    Maybe the coppers are thinking of something halfway between Minority Report and The Up Series (e.g., Seven Up), a cross-genre melange if ever there was one.

    OK. So how about DNA fingerprinting every child whose parents earn 100,000 quid or more? Why? They’re obvious kidnapping victims. A DNA profile would in some way protect them (e.g., the kidnapper could send a saliva swab instead of a finger with the ransom note). Also, white collar and upper-class crime is a lot more difficult to detect. Protect them, protect Society. It’s a win-win.

    I’d like to see how the wealthy and toffs react to that idea.

  3. doug says:

    this isn’t nanny state crap, this is Big Brother stuff.

  4. moss says:

    #3 – Ain’t much difference. Big Brother pretty much always uses the Nanny State rationales.

  5. Crucial sentence:

    ‘We have children giving their fingerprints when they are borrowing books from a library.’

    Proof that the slippery slope is indeed slippery slope…

  6. Brett says:

    Yeaaahhh and it’s all just “conspiracy nuts tin-foil hat wearing loons”-stuff, suuuure.

    While the governments cook us like frogs gradually until we’ll have microchips implanted.

    Yuppies could be beaten by the police, put in fema-camps and tortured and still say it’s all just conspiracy theory nut stuff.

  7. Li says:

    Or perhaps they will just cook us like frogs with their microwave-beams first.

    The last few years of news like this has led me to the conclusion that our elite have gone quite thoroughly mad.

  8. Patrick says:

    What next will they resurrect phrenology or start statistically profiling the population to get other even remotely possible would be felons in their database?

  9. Lou says:

    When are the British going to wake up ?

  10. JimD says:

    I wonder if all the “Bobbies” have their DNA in the Database ??? How about MPs and Lords, or government officialS, or corporate execs – all part of the “Usual Suspects” in REALLY BIG CRIMES !!!


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