 Dr. Musgrave |
Admits attempts to communicate with ET
Space Shuttle Columbia during STS-80 took a crew of five astronauts into a 17 day, 15 hour and 54 minute mission around the earth, the longest flight in the history of this vehicle. During this lengthy flight a very strange event occurred that even had crewman Dr. Story Musgrave unable to explain what he observed from the shuttle windows. A large disc shaped object appeared below the Columbia. The shuttle was approximately, 190 Nautical miles high.The disc was first observed to miraculously appear from out of nowhere, flying through the clouds below and progressing from right to left as the astronauts stared in utter amazement. The outer rim of the craft appeared to be rotating counter-clockwise. It was very large (compared to common space junk and breakaway ice), approximately 50 to 150 feet in diameter. During an earlier interview, Dr. Musgrave stated he attempted to communicate with ET life forms during each of his six missions. He actually asked them to take him with them. Now that’s an astronaut with a lot of courage. Dr. Musgrave retired after this flight from NASA. Since then he’s been spreading his considered opinion that alien life exists. When Musgrave speaks of this, it’s no great leap for one to assume he’s admitting knowledge of alien life. As the final slide of a “Grey” ET was shown during a recent astronomy presentation by Dr. Musgrave, he made this surprising comment: “These guys are real… I guarantee it!”
So is this for real or are they spiking the Tang these days? I’m sure these guys are screened psychologically for these missions. From the readers I expect the usual banal comments. (Yes, just like my Tang reference).
#27 – Eric
“…it seems that there is an awful lot of evidence that has been released and witnessed by average individuals that confirms the existence of Extra-terrestrial vehicles.”
It may SEEM that way, but appearances were, are and always will be deceiving, to coin a phrase.
“…awful lot of evidence…” Nope. Zero evidence. Not one single solitary atom of anything that can be shown to other than a product of nature or of terrestrial humans.
Never has been any. Which is the very fact that makes reported encounters with extraterrestrials so very, very, very improbable – improbable to the point that they cannot possibly be taken seriously.
Problem here is: just as antievolutionists think, wrongly, that they understand what the word “theory” actually means, likewise, laymen like yourself fail to distinguish between claims and actual evidence. One person, ten, ten thousand, 1.2 billion people saying they think something is so does not actually make it so. What is real is not determined by democratic vote.
Eyewitness claims, as M Scott already mentioned, are absolutely and unquestionably the least reliable and least credible form of evidence possible. Humans – ALL humans – misperceive things. Many humans lie. Human deception, deliberate and accidental alike, plus the countless ways in which people do not observe things either completely, accurately or knowledgably, add up to eyewitness accounts being virtually worthless unless supported by tangible physical evidence.
“…witnessed by average individuals…” Exactly. Average people are invariably the witnesses to these visitations, not skilled experts, who are aware of other possible causes for what they witness, who know how errors in perception often make commonplace things and phenomena appear to be something other than what they actually are.
In short, average people, because they are much more easily fooled, in so many ways, for so many reasons, make the absolute worst witnesses. Why do you mention them as being ‘average’ as if that somehow makes them more credible, instead of less?
“…confirms the existence of Extra-terrestrial vehicles…”
Uh-uh. Claims don’t “confirm” ANYTHING. They are nothing more than what somebody said.
The only thing that can possibly confirm the CLAIMS of the existence of extraterrestrial craft or artifacts is having the thing physically present, examined, and found to be absolutely impossible to have been made by humans on Earth.
Some photos, most discovered to be faked, the few that remain always of such terrible quality (despite the ubiquity of advanced photographic equipment all over the world, mind you) as to make absolutely no conclusions possible – those, plus the claims of some people, the vast majority of whom prove not credible for one or more common reasons – insanity, sensory handicap or dishonesty – this is the pathetically, laughably inadequate “evidence’ that an astonishingly unlikely event has occurred.
When you subtract all the debunked “sightings” from the body of reports, what’s left is a few unexplained cases, every one of which has a normal, commonplace, prosaic explanation which is infinitely more likely than the existence of alien visitors.
What’s good enough for Fox TV is not good enough for science.
Belief in ET life is sensible. Belief in ET visits to Earth is, like belief in the deities of organized religion, utterly contrary to all knowledge and reason.
Belief in ET life is sensible. Belief in ET visits to Earth is, like belief in the deities of organized religion, utterly contrary to all knowledge and reason.
I’m sure glad not everyone is as narrow minded or foolish as you. If that were the case, we’d all still think the world was flat. One can only hope you never reproduce and pass your ignorance on to the next generation.
What’s interesting is how nonscientists and flakes alike persist in thinking that they are “open-minded” and those who have a far more accurate and objective grasp of how things work in the real world must be wrong… but, that’s the drawback of letting wishful thinking crowd out acceptance of reality.
It ain’t got Jack Shit to do with being “open-minded” It’s about being objective, and knowing how stupendously unlikely such a thing is. And why it’s so emotionally attractive to less-objective people.
I took the liberty of running your accusation through Babelfish and got back the translation in plain English. When you say “narrow minded” what you’re actually saying is “party pooper.” 🙂
Perhaps if we knew that we weren’t the only life form in the universe we could start to see past our racial and religious differences and realize how much we all have in common here on Earth.
How can you tell these sightings are ETs from some far off planet? Is it the direction of the spin of the outside of the disc?
Why can’t these be an Earth species living in cities hidden away in the deepest oceans? That would be more likely.
Or people who have discovered how to cross over from a parallel universe? Or Earth time travellers from the future? Or an elaborate hoax by a billionaire. (More likely than interplanetary travel.)NASA secret Skunk works projects. Or crafts run by ghosts? Or angels? holograms from a different dimension. Or an elaborate lie?
Noooo, they’ve got to be aliens from another planet.
RBG
It’s already been confirmed years ago. DisclosureProject.com
There are even declassified documents confirming this, but most people are too stupid and or ignorant to read them.
#36 – jimmy hat
“It’s already been confirmed years ago. DisclosureProject.com
There are even declassified documents confirming this, but most people are too stupid and or ignorant to read them.”
You chose your handle well.
If you ask certain people around here nicely, I’m sure they’ll tell you where you can be fitted for the protective metallic headwear that you obviously need.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5bG0UVVEEk
Dr. Musgrave is one of the greatest Astronauts humanity ever had.
If he says they are here……. they are her, period.
In the end, more of these guys will come out with stories about what they saw and then we’ll have the “Astronauts revolt”!
Viva la revolucion!
By the way, have you ever thought about this: if these fuckers are visiting our planet for thousands of years, maybe they have video footage of our history…. maybe we can see Rome in video! or the great temple in Jerusalem, or the pyramids being built, or Alexander the great and his army beating the crap out of the persians in the battle of Gaugamela….
He he he that will be awesome!
But how would it work if in all that time and technology they can only figure out how to communicate with us using 5 notes like in Close Encounters of the Third Kind?
Now if the Greatest Astronaut humanity ever saw said ETs are a bunch of hooey, would that scientifically put an end to such talk?
RBG
The other day I was flipping around the TV interwebspacechannels and spent 6.2 seconds at the History Channel. There was some bearded gentleman claiming that the Air Force or NASA or someone has debunked all but 700 claims. BUT what about those 700 claims ???????
Well, if a few tens thousand claims, that good people swear they saw, are discounted for obvious reasons, maybe the rest only need some more investigation to be discounted. To insist they be counted as proof means the discounters must prove a negative. Well, as THC pointed out, these include blurry photos, and / or verbal sightings.
How about the claimants come up with a little better proof then blurry photos. How about some contact. Heck, the aliens could take over the TV broadcasts and claim they need money to get back home to the Falwell Quadrant. Send money now so that they might continue to spread the word. Only gays wouldn’t send any money. Or commies or terrorists. And after you die, they will take your mind with them and put it in a new body to live forever. In a special place. With no niggas, kites, nips, spics, chinks, ragheads, wetbacks, frogs, Catholics, Mormons, or A-rabs. Only true Americans, and a few Canadians, would be allowed. Yup, that is the kind of proof we need.