Hundreds of Iraqis have staged a protest against the building of a dividing wall between a Shia district of Baghdad and a Sunni area.
Residents of the Shula and Ghazaliya districts waved Iraqi flags and chanted slogans rejecting both the proposed separation and the US occupation.
They demanded the government intervene to ensure the barrier is demolished.
The US military said the wall would reduce sectarian violence and stop the movement of weapons and militants.
Same lies. Same sophistry. Different community.
#30 Jopa C’mon be fair – you can’t expect people to let the facts get in the way of a good comment can you? 😉
It is funny though – everyone knows the Holy land -and who was that guy…oh yeah Jesus…who was King of the who…? King of the Jews…thats right. All those places we all learned from the Bible are Jewish – its fact.
So why can’t they have their land, its not even that big anyway so let them have it already.
Cheers
It’s amazing that individuals either don’t study history or don’t really have any world knowledge. Their naivety is astounding, yes the walls do work, gated communities are safer and do provide better security and yes Dorthy diversity doesn’t work.
Diversity creates divided communities, natural distrust, innate to humanity tends to grow. That’s what’s happening to the United States, but cloud living liberal/progressive/commies/neo-coms either don’t understand this despite their “education” or do and what it to happen. The melting pots works, it takes time but it works. What’s happening today doesn’t, but it’ll take violence to make that clear.
But then again, if violence does occur it give the globalist commies a chance to enact more laws and possibly even bring in foreign troops?
Apartheid is the dividing and the subsequent use of that division to turn one group against another group. The division can be along tribal or racial lines. But in the end a power uses that division to control all the subsequent smaller groups by playing them off of one another.
In Iraq they already hate each other, and are trying to kill each other. While I find this acceptable, a dividing wall isn’t apartheid, no more than it is in Northern Ireland. Apartheid is what you find in the United States where the federal government divides everyone into sub-groups and plays the interest of one group against another with itself as judge and jury, or should I say the Demoncrat Party does this.
30–Jopa==what makes one moral/historical claim to land superior to any other?
My answer==there is no such argument. Land always has been and always will be held or lost by FORCE.
Silly and only propaganda to make a moral/historical/religious argument to avoid the only issue that counts.
#34 – Ok, that’s a practical view. If I don’t call it “ownership” but “natural Habitat” – like dolphins have – will it be better?
The land of Israel is the natural habitat of the Israeli Jews.
🙂 I am a dolphin…
thanks for all the fish.
#31 – You hit the nail on the head!
What do you say #28 (nightstar)? Is Jesus a good enough fact for you?!
He is for me…
#31 – You hit the nail on the head!
What do you say #28 (nightstar)? Is Jesus a good enough historical fact for you?!
He is for me… god bless him.
oops – sorry for posting this twice!
35–You’re twisting==dolphins get and eat fish according to the force they apply to get it.
Same issue controls. Try again? or get the point? There is NO morality, that is not only the practical analysis, it is the only analysis. Everything else is propaganda.
It seems I’m not permitted to post my response unless the admins approve it ^^
Perhaps I’m too controversial
I’ll try to break it down and see if it sticks, here goes
#30
So lets get this straight. The land now known as Israel and Palestine according to you has always belonged to the Jews right?
If my memory of religion serves Yahweh was reputed told Abraham to pack up the family and move to Canaan. About 500 years later Moses is said to have led his people out of Egypt and established a covenant with Yahweh (officially the start of the Jews).
Now even if one believes these events actually did occur there’s a problem supporting your claim. It seems the Canaanites beat Abraham to the place according by at least 1200 years.
Maybe your always doesn’t start that early though…
So lets look at it another way. The Israelites took it fair and square right? It belongs to the Jew’s by right of conquest.
Whoops it seems that all ended with the Fourth Geneva Convention which went into effect on October 21, 1950.
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#41,
1. If you can find the Canaanites I will consider returning them their land according to the Geneva Convention.
2. I want America returned to the indians too.
3. I want all the lands taken by Arabs returned – that’s almost the entire muslim world except of Saudia Arabia. All the Arabs must all return to Arabia.
4. Then I want Australia removed and returned to the Aboriginals.
I can go on forever with this.
The Covenant was first made with Abraham – get your historical facts in order – since his time we are Jewish, Hebrew, Israelites – call us as you may.
“So lets look at it another way. The Israelites took it fair and square right? It belongs to the Jew’s by right of conquest. Whoops it seems that all ended with the Fourth Geneva Convention which went into effect on October 21, 1950.” – If you are reffering to the ancient Israelites then this is the most ridicules logical leap in the history of talkbacks. The geneva convention from 1950 cancels historical events that took place 4,000 years before it. HA!!!!!!!
The UN: they let the Rwanda Holocaust happen right under their nose, they’ve let ethnic cleansing happen in Bosnia, they’ve let the facist north Korean regime kill with hunger more then 1 million of their own civilians and they are letting a new holocaust happen RIGHT NOW in darfur. I refuse to go to the slaughter because the UN SAID SO. The UN is completely biased against Israel – why should we adhere to it’s corrupt decisions?! So we can say Never Again #2 ?!
“So why the sense of entitlement?” – 4,000 years of history and culture in this place. If this doesn’t hold then fuck everything, let’s go on a total rampage and do all the stuff I suggested in the beginning.
Part 2:
What Entitles any nation to its Land? What entitles the chinese to china?
The Irish to Ireland? The Italians to Italy? The UN entitles them?! Is it that shallow?! Or is it history, heritage, culture? Do you have an answer for that #41?