After voting some 61 times to repeal Obamacare when they knew Obama would block it – Republicans for the first time failed to repeal it. I guess there’s a difference when you’re in power and you can make it actually happen. Republicans are a disaster and this is yet another example. They can’t get together when they are trying to deliberately screw things up. They failed at being a failure. I guess 2 wrongs do make a right.
Keep in mind that the “vote” occurred in the back rooms where members were polled and they didn’t have the support to pass it. So even though there wasn’t an official vote on the record – there was a vote – believe me!
Worse possible outcome:
Let’s say, in 4 years, Trump is stymied. No healthcare reform, no tax reform, no wall.
They will never vote Democrat, they won’t vote Republican unless the McCain’s and company are rousted.
Expect big changes in the next 4 years.
Oh_No: as usual, you make no sense at all. You post “let’s assume” Trump will make no changes in the next four years, then conclude that this will “bring big changes.”
You could not be more idiotic.
America VOTED overwhelmingly for Hillary/Democrats in 2016. No reason not to think they won’t do so again or with greater resolve in 2018 and 2020. Not as “someone” posted a while back that such voting won’t again be subverted by the Republicans (working closely with Putin?) again. Its going to take awhile to wash the Coke Brothers out of our Supreme Court and Politics………if ever.
Enough to make a thinking man cry. Oh_No and Pedro…dry eyed as ever.
“America VOTED overwhelmingly for Hillary/Democrats in 2016.”
Riiiiiiight.
https://theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/chambers-of-pain/507467/
You couldn’t be more idiotic.
Congressional vote nationwide vote tally 2016
Popular vote 63,173,815 (R) 61,776,554 (D)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2016
The system is rigged, but part 2 of what you are proposing “America VOTED overwhelmingly for Democrats in 2016” …
Hard to substantiate that the political party with less votes was overwhelmingly voted for.
I’m not seeing it.
HM==thank you. Even though I wrote quite plainly the vote was for Hillary/Democrats, I was actually only thinking of Hillary/Presidential. First I’ve heard of the overwhelming congressional vote going the other way. “The Real Truth” is good to know.
Ha, ha………the same overwhelming vote for representatives to take away their healthcare?
I could never make it in politics. I have no gauge for how stupid people are….. I don’t like asking for money….. and I really hate lying. 300 years ago, I’d be over the next mountain.
> I have no gauge for how stupid people are…
Talk about playing with fire…
What vote?
Who VOTED to keep Obamacare?
FYI: The Republican orchestrated bill to repeal and replace Obamacare was pulled from the legislative agenda by House Speaker Paul Ryan. NO ONE VOTED!
Can’t you even get your HEADLINES right?
We now live in a fact free world.
You’re correct Marc, a consensus was taken, the yea’s were wormed out of every hole. But, Ryan and DJT’s egos pulled the AHCA.
To lose with a House vote shown on CSPAN, oh, the horror. Remember, “we’ll be winning so much you’ll be sick of winning”. DJT, loser.
@Fact Check, you’re picayune about the “facts”, the R’s voted in a closed meeting. Counting up their cards, and Knew they’d fall short of fucking over the poor and lower middle class.
Although, the Trump administration is set to ramp up its efforts to weaken the Affordable Care Act in one of the few ways it has left—by making changes to the law through waivers and rule changes. So, eat the poor, and starve the elderly.
Sick bunch of rich bastards. \\\
If they had voted yes, they would still be voting to keep ObamaCare.
That bill didn’t repeal ObamaCare. In some ways it made it worse, but with Trump’s name on it. A full repeal would lower premiums.
Yeah, yeah: lower premiums by increasing deductibles and co-pays increasing the amount of money “insured” will pay for healthcare……….WHILE removing 24 Million from any coverage leaving them to the Emergency Room for additional rounds of insurance coverage cost increases.
See the pattern?
Have you noticed what’s been happening to deductibles already?
ALSO: (….. ha, ha!):
1. “They failed at being a failure.” ///// Oh so accurate. The Pukes are in a rut as “the Party of NO.” It is easy to be against anything. Just say No. Stoke the anger, fear, prejudices and biases and scream NO. But…. try to govern …….. try to actually come up with solutions, and “Its Hard.” Listen, but don’t invest too much in any street corner crazy yelling “No…no … no.”
2. Trump, the Pukes, Ryan, Congress: don’t reprsent the American People. BY MAJORITY VOTE: America voted for Hillary. She failed to get key votes to win the Electorial College. Totally different issue.
Add to who NOT TO LISTEN TO: “The American people want….” because its always BS, even when more true than false.
…………………….. I know ……………………
…………………………………………….. Its called: Politics. ……….
Don’t that suck?
The United State is a failing capitalism by not protecting US jobs.
And these neglect bleeds into healthcare.
When jobs are outsourced by greedy corporations, it hurts the US job base. How can people without jobs or who are unpaid afford healthcare?
Either the government can protect jobs again or the government is simply going to have to consider healthcare a new entitlement.
Sad statistic … I read some some states like Arizona 72% of new borns are covered by Medicaid. Tons of states the number is > 50 percent.
Now consider that if people could have careers in tech, manufacturing that were stable, the old model of employer paid healthcare plans would work better.
Because people would have stable long-term employment and careers. These doesn’t happen in very many lines of work these days outside the wealthy. Tech jobs get killed by H1B visas, manufacturing jobs go to Mexico or China. Blue collar work like construction gets devalued due to illegal immigration.
Automation will ultimately kill a number of jobs slowly at first, and then faster.
If the US takes care and protects workers jobs (the Democratic Party *used* to do this), some of the problems fix themselves.
But until then, the government is simply going to have to be on the hook for a chunk of healthcare.
Since we know the US won’t protect workers in the long term no matter what Trump decides since we have 2 corrupted political parties, let’s just say that the US government is always going to be on the hook for healthcare.
This doesn’t mean they can’t reform “Obamacare”, which is structured to penalize the middle class the worst.
The Republican “Freedom Caucus” is not about “freedom” but about Koch brother money and the Koch brothers issued the marching orders to kill the health care bill.
The “Tea Party” is a fraud. It was a fraud since day 1.
>Automation will ultimately kill a number of jobs slowly at first, and then faster.
The higher the minimum wage, the more the automation. Once McDonalds puts in ordering kiosks and a 360 burgers per hour robot, those jobs aren’t coming back.
The operative word is SUSTAINABLE jobs.
What do you think about robots (their owners) paying social security throughout their useful “life”, as compensation for the direct displacement of a human job?
I don’t think about since it’s just that stupid. How about we tax every Office software that took away typist jobs or real spreadsheets?