The HTC 10 is the best phone I ever owned. I would recommend it to anyone who is turning in their Samsung Galaxy Note 7 because of battery fires. The phone has incredible specifications and runs everything flawlessly.

Although there are plenty of other good smart phones with similar specs what I personally like is that you can buy it unlocked allowing root access and 3rd party roms. I’m currently running the Viper Rom and everything just works. My unlocked version is running fine on Verizon but it has radios in it to run on and cell network. I am an intense smart phone user and there’s nothing like a phone that just works.



  1. bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    Will it run virtual reality?

    Either way: what do you use your phone mostly for not including phone calls?

  2. bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    Continuing the above, I use Skype at home and have no real need for a standard phone, mobile or otherwise although I think as an emergency dialer in the car, it makes sense. Always having a camera makes sense. Having my tunes with me makes sense.

    But I wonder if anyone can chime in on what apps they find the phone useful for that have little to no alternatives?

    Right now, on price alone having a Virtual Reality platform makes sense. I’m also drawn to all the Universal Remotes that a smart phone can take over for.

    My latest “cool” use would be an object tracker for anything you wish to tag: remotes, car keys, book I’m reading, vegetables about to spoil and so forth. If you have the tech….why not use it??

    Apps you actually use…on a weekly basis?

    • NewFormatSux says:

      Do you feel like a traitor outsourcing your phone business to foreign corporations?

      • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

        Is it reading comprehension NoFormalSkills, or failing eyesight?

        I don’t have a mobile/smart phone. I think I’m close enough on point to ask the forum what uses they have for these mobile computers so that I might buy one actually for the non-phone function.

        Aren’t all phones made overseas? So…as always… whats your point? And don’t say Motorola or any other foreign made phone that is simply branded USA.

        • NewFormatSux says:

          Skype is the foreign company. Although now that I think about it, perhaps MicroSoft has bought it since I first started using that attack on Skype users who whined about Benedict Arnold CEOs.

          • Hmeyers says:

            WTF kind of shit conversation are you two having?

            “Bobbo: I don’t have a mobile/smart phone” — a little weird.

            “NFS: Skype is the foreign company” — uh, Microsoft owns it. Before that EBay owned them.

            Neither of you know a damn thing about mobile phones apparently …

            Reminds me of time I witnessed a mentally retarded mother and a mentally retard daughter arguing at a Wendys. — Yeah that was an awesome argument.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            HM….whats up??? Too much sand in your Kibbles and Bits?

            I never said what you put in quotes…kinda weird you would do that. I see a downward trend in your personality on this forum. You might do well to think about what you were doing a year ago and try to get back to it?

            I have explained WHY I don’t have/need a mobile phone and why I am interested in one.

            All seems very much on the up and up to me.

            Another weird thing: how come no one is mentioning what apps they use? I’d think that would be an interesting subject. I am amazed at some of the attachments coming out to use with these phones. Fun toys, useful equipment…with Siri, Big Blue, and the Cloud..augmented reality==the singularity draws nigh!

            Fun stuff. I like crabs…….but only as a spread.

          • Cornwall says:

            Bonface wen ovr bananna patch

  3. NewFormatSux says:

    Boo to HTC. The phone may be great, but their service is terrible. Phones will disappear from their website even before the two year contract is over. Good luck getting updates from them.
    I bet you could get drivers for every HP printer of the last 20 years from their website.

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      That is the point made by a recent “anti-Apple” fan who after years has switched to Apple (supposedly?). His point being the higher initial purchase price is usually made up for by compatibility and support issues.

      If one buys a new phone every 3-4 years, that all seems mostly irrelevant to me?

      • NewFormatSux says:

        Not if the phone is gone in less than two years. This happened to me with an HTC phone. The model wasn’t on their website when I tried to install an Android update. Less than two years from purchase. HTC customer service was no help either.

        I eventually found the update elsewhere, but the connection to try and install it failed, claiming the phone was low on battery.

        • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

          What was the update for? I do my best NOT to update my computer. As it works for what I want to do, I don’t want any crap update for a function I don’t use to foul up what I do use it for.

          As a phone user…do you have an often used app that would be hard to get elsewhere or expensive?

          I have already seen my lack of a phone number practically makes me a “non-citizen” and the smart phone could soon become very similar….eg: point of pay apps.

          I am very enamored of the door bell answering app and the phone door lock systems.

          Whats fun is all the non-phone call functions that are becoming more and more required or highly useful…and only by using the phone.

          • NewFormatSux says:

            An Android update to use certain apps.

            Regarding the use of smartphones, if you are not using the phone, then you might as well get an ipad or ipod touch or something similar. Otherwise, the cell phone company is charging extra for using the smartphone. An extra $15 a month just for having the smartphone instead of a dumb cellphone.

            Some apps that people might use, GPS, Facebook, price shopping, Waze to identify speed traps, I mean avoid traffic jams.

            However, I notice that it tends to make people look at their phones too much. Eventually this is going to cause eye problems. The power savings from using a small screen is not worth that.

  4. jpfitz says:

    bobbo I was an early adopter of cell phones, bought a motorola startac when they first were available. Great cell phone. I hardly used it.

    I watched the world go nuts buying all these expensive smart phones in the mid of the 2000 decade. I bought a mp3 player and used a Google voice number for texting and surfing over wifi.

    Two years ago I the paid under a hundred bucks for a windows pre-paid phone. Still not paying for data, did buy minutes for text and talk. The GPS worked great as well as a Bluetooth music player. Then I took off the protective case for one day, it slipped out of my shirt pocket on Xmas eve as I got into my car. I bought another windows phone bigger and better, ha. Windows then stopped work on upgrading software for my model, so a lot of apps stopped working.

    I recently bought a refurbished galaxy s5. Wow what a nice device. 129 bucks, a few blemishes but with a cover it looks great. I took my Sim card out of my windows cell and installed it into the s5 and all my contacts and calendar info was available.
    I refuse to pay for data and will never buy a six hundred dollar phone.

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      I had fun back when going on a 3 week vacation to China I got a foot long brick weight satellite phone so as to be constantly available. Never used it….but I was “available.”

      The cost of the $700 phones is “worth it” as an intro to Virtual Reality…then you have the smart phone apps available as well.

      You do raise an interesting question though: other than Virtual Reality…..what do the $700 phones do that the
      $200 phones don’t?….or just where is the price break for what kinds of applications?

      • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

        I have now read some of the product descriptions on the $200 phones vs the $700 ones and the comment sections that follow.

        Seems they all advertise the same range of applications…. but only the higher priced phones can actually do it?

        that makes sense.

  5. admfubar says:

    I’m hoping these make it too the states soon i’d buy this in a heartbeat

    https://www.fairphone.com/

  6. Mr Diesel - Libertarian Deplorable says:

    I like my Samsung S5 but I would move to something else. HTC isn’t on any of the 10 lists that I’ve seen though.

  7. Cheap Chump says:

    I personally like my BLU Jr. phone. It’s not very fast, can’t really run any of those intense 3D games nor bloated crapware, but it does work — as a phone! The fact that I also have a descent media player (including a FM radio tuner), can spit out directions via Mapquest, has dual SIM slots and a removable battery is only a bonus. Hell! I only paid $35 bucks for it NEW!!! Just try saying THAT about any of your other “choices”!

    Samsung, HTC, Microsoft and especially Apple can kiss my ass!

  8. Maker Movement says:

    Don’t throw away your Samsung Galaxy Note 7.

    Re-purpose it as a pocket warmer!

  9. Adam says:

    I own a Note 4 and I think it is almost perfect. It has a wide rage of frequency bands, an OLED screen, removable battery, micro sd card slot, and it can be disassembled to replace the USB port. It is running Cyanogenmod without google services, and it has more then enough power to run all of the applications that I use everyday.

  10. tom says:

    I’ll stick with my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, thank you.


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