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Planned Parenthood Again under Fire for Haggling over Body Parts
By McCullough Tuesday July 21, 2015
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Sad, true and evil.
Filling in my own blanks as broadly as possible, I grok this is true, and I can be from sad to happy to neutral to not applicable, but where is evil?
You mean like selling aborted baby parts?
Well Mr D, on the face of it, the story is about buying and selling aborted FETUS parts, not baby parts.
But I’ll take your example and still wonder where the evil is. What are you gonna do with dead baby parts? Throw them away when those parts can be used to SAVE THE LIVES of actually living people?
I mean…… how far back up the chain of reality do you have to go to insult the EARTH with a few more billion people?
…………..and let me head you off…………….Yes, words do matter.
Buy a dictionary.
Why do you want to debate this?
Fuck the dictionary.
Let it go for once!
obviously……….I’m passionate about……. words.
I debate…….. because I’m passionate about showing the way to those who care.
The Way: knowing what you are talking about.
Once you actually discuss the same issue: many if not most disagreements… go away.
Its about being a human being.
“The Way: knowing what you are talking about.”
You are indeed full of yourself.
Diatribes and false rhetoric have eroded all your objectivity. And sadly, it’s no longer possible for you to see this.
Keep swinging at windmills, Don Quixote!
Compassion (sic)==name the false rhetoric.
Your failure to respond on (this) point will actually prove your second point….. that I am swinging at windmills.
Imagine: trying to get people to argue on point??????
Ha, ha…………ICMSU.
“Why do you want to debate this?”
Har….meet bobbo. He doesn’t debate, he bullies, he condescends, he has no job, no life, this is what keeps him going. He’s just a sad little man.
Har….meet bobbo. He doesn’t debate, /// oh contrary….. but it does take two.
he bullies, /// How so? Asking for specifics???
he condescends, //// hmmmm…”buy a dictionary…” yes, but on the acid scale, how far below lemonade is such a reminder?
he has no job, /// just like an aborted fetus………………?
no life, //// ditto……..ha, ha…icmsu.
this is what keeps him going. /// No….that would be Heinken
He’s just a sad little man. /// Again….no… quite happy. Little?–in what sense? Man///yep…..I could dither.
No response to directly asked questions, quick to demonstrate in one’s self the accusations made of another, default to the ab hominem.
Tea………anyone?
Anyone can bully Pedro. You have to choose to be bullied.
Eats shoots and leaves.
Oh Pedro!!!
You are such a bully. But I have to confirm you are not a pseudo-intellect……..
When you say blow, is your donkey in the room?
Black livers matter.
And we are surprised?
As I said many times before, when a society believes it’s ok to murder it’s own children, the downfall of that society is inevitable.
This is just another symptom of the disease.
Does the issue at hand even matter?
Its Fetuses NOT babies and NOT children. So….you aren’t on topic at all.
Its use of already dead fetuses….NOT murder and NOT fetuscide.===ie, the verb is completely wrong.
and it is NOT murder as the dead fetus is the result of a legal and constitutionally recognized state of FREEEEEEEEEEDOM.
See how Freedom works? Its other people doing something you don’t like.
Stilly children. …………. yes I know……….you aren’t children either…….as that is an age issue not a measure of failure of intellect.
Silly religious bigots.
You don’t need to be religious to know right from wrong. All you need is a conscious.
Well, this may be swinging a windmills and just a bunch of pseudo-intellectual false rhetoric ((I did use one example, just to see if anyone one pick it…. so far…. no.))
In fact, right and wrong and knowing the difference is the very opposite of religion. If you are “religious” you only follow or violate the rules of that religion. Whether the following or the violation is “moral” or not is a separate investigation………… using ……. words.
Yes, you need to be conscious…. to do anything right or wrong. Assuming you mean conscience, once again that is a separate issue. The study of morality/ethics.
The golden rule is a rough starting place.
I like Darwinian Morality. Its rewarding to find so much of what we call morality is just another adaptation to survival.
Neat huh?
“I did use one example, just to see if anyone one pick it….”
bobbo, if you’re going to brag about being “passionate about words” you might want to make sure those words you’re so passionate about end up in properly formed sentences.
Just… wow.
I like half formed/run on/incomplete sentences. Its not words I love, but the ideas they stumble towards.
All half formed.
Seems appropriate.
Do you people actually watch the news or just rely on half assed lies?
They do not process aborted babies for anything.
The guy doing this hit piece chopped and diced the video and added his own comments/questions afterwards to create what you are seeing.
Good grief, it has been debunked already.
…except that it’s not been debunked. They’ve put both unedited videos up, and what’s being said is unmistakable.
Yes, the people creating these videos have a clear agenda. It doesn’t make the PP people in the videos any less reprehensible.
Seems to me that what anyone does with dead tissue cannot be reprehensible in any way.
What can be reprehensible is how you get that dead tissue to begin with and the video(s) don’t go into that.
Is that too close a distinction?
As a note, look how hard those who defend Planned Parenthood fight against the death penalty, yet how adamant they are in allowing children to be slaughtered and sold like beef.
My own quick google did not reveal any PP position on the death penalty.
More misuse of simple words for your own privately imagined sense of right and wrong?
Beef is sold in grocery stores under plastic wrapped bins of location identified cuts. Is that what you mean? If not…. what does that analogy mean to highlight? If you mean that NO ONE eats fetus meat.
In fact, selling Beef is LEGAL, whereas selling fetus tissue is ILLEGAL.
Do you know what an analogy is?
bobbo
“My own quick google did not reveal any PP position on the death penalty.”
Wrong, Ah_Yea said those who defend PP, not PP’s position on the death penalty.
Words mean things, learn the difference.
Right you are Mr D…clearly for the first half, murky for the second half?
I defend PP and the Death Penalty.
I am against slaughtering children and selling them like Beef.
………makes for a complicated world, eh wot?
I can think of only one other (illegal) profession where the proposition is: “your money or your LIFE!”
This is just the tip of the iceberg that no one wants to look at. It’s what happens when doctors play lawyers and lawyers play doctors all in pursuit of that almighty buck instead of helping the people that they originally vowed to help. So perhaps it’s time to look at what these colleges and universities are teaching and what it is that these jugheads are learning. (My bet is, not much.)
… And if you think this bitch will never see the inside of a prison, your right! She now has the MONEY and (illegal) connections to stay out. THAT’S the lesson I’m sure they’ve ALL learned — money talks, no matter what!
Like the Catholic Church is attractive to homosexuals, it does appear PP is attractive to “pro-abortion” activists like myself.
HOWEVER===unlike the Catholic Church, PP is about the exercise of FREE CHOICE. If I worked at PP, I would keep my pro-abortion attitudes to myself and give the counseling needed for each person to make their own determinations.
But thats just me. FREEEEEEEEEEEEDOM bobbo. Not like you nut cases wanting to force your own ideas on other people.
Silly hoomans.
So bobbo, educate us about Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, Eugenics and the like.
Never mind. It will just be more of your pseudo-intellectual bullshit.
Whats your area of interest within those subjects?
I’m no expert, but I’ve dabbled in the area.
Let me challenge you: name anything at all that is pseudo-intellectual at all in what I posted.
What I posted: the dictionary meaning of words.
EG (and even to your point)====>I googled PP and “selling fetal tissue” and couldn’t get to the OP because google was clogged with Murdering Dead Baby links.
On page xxx I found some discussion about can’t sell fetal tissue “for a profit” or cannot profiteer from selling tissues.
One guy had a list of fetal parts with posted prices. Not prosecuted as “no profit.”
Words.
Words are: WHAT WE THINK WITH. When the issue is fetal tissue but the argument is about Murdering Children….there is no connection to reality at all.
So…………..again……….. I challenge you: what did I post was pseudo-intellectual?
And as you have NO ANSWER…… you too…. are disconnected from reality………..deep within your stupid hole…….
……………………prove me wrong.
Planned Parenthood has been increasing their quotas for abortions at member clinics. They are also the group behind the delay in approving abortion pills for over the counter use. Kathleen Sebelius was bankrolled by them, and she repaid them as HHS Secretary, overruling the FDA. It was big news when George Bush did the same thing from a pro-life angle, not so much when Obama did.
Eugenics.
Another word.
Much like FREEEEEEEEEEDOM. Its not what you would choose for yourself mandated onto other people for political or religious values.
Eugenics = Freedom.
If you aren’t “for” Eugenics (dictionary meaning==not the political, religious, over emotional, historic, hysterical meaning) ….. then …. you are a Fascist (again…. the dictionary meaning.)
Ha, ha………….ICMSU. …… and so should you.
More black kids aborted than were born in NYC. Why do you hate black babies bobbo?
http://theamericanmirror.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/NYC-pregagncy-outcomes-2013-e1437509059106.jpg
Racist, not a racist…hmmm. I just can’t tell.
While you made only an unintentional oblique approach to answering the question put to you, at least you are in the ballpark for the OP….. and thats a rare thing here.
So many avenues of attack.
I am pro-abortion….. so black or white ((“All white lives matter….. ha, ha ICMSU) all abortions are good….. and it appears the black folks have figured out what is best before the white folks have. Its like music or something?
Whats your point?
But in the mode of your dog whistle call to meaningless misunderstood argument: as long as the blacks are freely choosing for themselves without coercion or State Action…I am all for this private euthanasia for all the reasons that such euthanasia is good. Sadly, there is a large element of coercion here in that blacks are over represented by single parent families and low income status.
High Black Abortion rate is a measure of Black oppression and their rational reaction to it. You fight black abortions by raising their economic status…… but I am pro-abortion…. so there is a corner here I don’t wish to paint myself into.
No woman should be “allowed” to have more than 2 kiddies. By allowed, given our society, I mean they should be ridiculed for having litters above 2.
A self aware creature does not overpopulate its environment and while it may be tough to accept a norm of 2.0===we should at least NOT APPLAUD the litter bearers and consistently WE SHOULD APPLAUD those who abort.
If you don’t like this….. melt the candle sticks…. and tax yourself more to support those you force to be born.
Actually being responsible for what you do/recommend/think/vote for/force onto others===is a tonic to what you actually would think if you were responsible and logical.
…………..but you aren’t.
Silly Hoomans.
The responsible breeder doesn’t get pregnant in the first place.
It is welfare breeders that run their crotches like puppy mills so they can get more money that should be dealt with.
I love your tough talk Mr D.
Should society offer dem welfare bitches lifetime benefits in return for sterilization?
I think so……. but many will disagree.
So………….pay up.
Shit bobbo, we’re giving them fucking lifetime benefits now with their crotches popping out little welfare babies like a Pez dispenser.
We agree Mr D. So I say: sterilize them….all within a matrix of “free choice” as much as can be diddled.
Like everything else, pros and cons to what we do, every choice made.
My first choice would be free abortions….but failing that…. what would the voting public actually accept?
***** quote from bobbo above posted here because this lamely designed site can’t do true hierarchical posting; see reddit ***************
…obviously……….I’m passionate about……. words.
I debate…….. because I’m passionate about showing the way to those who care.
…
************* end quote *******************
AAAaagggggahhhahahahhrhrhrhaarhehehehehehehehe. You trolled; I bit.
ahhhh–buck up PM—its only a little bit troll, but moreso mostly true.
I LOVE being shown when/where/how I am wrong. Recognizing I’m wrong makes me better informed.
Nothing like a good see/saw discussion to recognize a new truth. I wish more people here where full of themselves and bullied other people. Never answering any question directly, never posting a link, crying like a baby===not much there.
Trump.
Why the Hate? Seems to me everything he has said so far is true, or close enough. PC on the hoof.
Windows 10 RTM==more buggy and jerky than Preview 10240. I may never upgrade.
“”… We want to have a word with you about your bucket of fetuses entitled The Mary Gatter Quality Assortment…
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“And what kind of fetal tissue would we receive?
“Dead fetal tissue. … We use only the finest quality whole baby fetii sucked strait from the ghetto … lightly killed, sprinkled with MSG, and packed in the finest quality povadone iodine.
…
“And What about this entree? Crunchy Fetus?
“Ahh…
“Don’t you even take the bones out?
“If we took the bones out, it wouldn’t be crunchy, would it?! … Look, I already said I want a Lambo and you’re gonna bitch about an extra .35$ in shipping??
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6uLfermPU
Spam, spam, spam, crunchy frog, and spam.
Could I have more spam with that?
“Thanks, sis. You know how much I love your crunch surprise!”
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121215235014/simpsons/images/9/97/Mr_Burns_-_the_box.jpg
This is the ACORN fake video fraud all over again.
Except the ACORN video wasn’t fake and this one has been released in its entirety to prove that the editing didn’t change the fact that the low-life scum sucking bitch blatantly trying to capitalize on the selling of prime fetal tissue (whether you call them baby parts or not).
If I believed in hell I could take solace in her outcome with a special place there for eternity. But I don’t and I can’t.
Got anything to back that statement up? C’mon, ANYTHING? Throw us a bone Greg.
They hate it when their actions are exposed.
Continuing the Huge Right Wing Anti-Choice Fake Outrage of the Day …Mr Diesel says:
7/24/2015 at 5:56 am
Except the ACORN video wasn’t fake /// in context it was a complete hoax. What specific word BS are you using here?–that there was a video? Snopes doesn’t cover the Acorn controversy that I could find in 2 minutes, but Wiki and Google do.
and this one has been released in its entirety to prove that the editing didn’t change the fact that the low-life scum sucking bitch blatantly trying to capitalize on the selling of prime fetal tissue (whether you call them baby parts or not). /// Snopes Verdict: ‘Undecided.” http://m.snopes.com/pp-baby-parts-sale/
If I believed in hell I could take solace in her outcome with a special place there for eternity. But I don’t and I can’t. /// Why would you?
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Mr D: be specific…ie…not totally wrapped up in the outrage of human beings being killed and their meat sold in Safeway: what did the Dr do or say that you find so upsetting?
So much for this red herring… They were cleared of any wrong doing by the state.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/indiana-clears-planned-parenthood-wrongdoing-videos-32793066