“How much money do you have in your wallet? Who do you get emails from? Whose sign do you put up in your front yard? This is a tax question? And you don’t think that’s intimidating? It’s sure as hell intimidating. And I don’t know that I got any answers from you today.”
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Applaud Congress? The easily fooled prove again to be easily led.
This is just another dog-and-phony show to make it look like our government is doing something. Is this whole IRS thing as scandal? Yes. But it is no where near as bad as the FBI/CIA illegally investigating the AP. Where is the outrage about that?
Covered that as well. Would you like us to repeat it daily?
http://dvorak.org/blog/2013/05/13/justice-department-secretly-collected-phone-records-of-associated-press-reporters/
Covered it maybe. Used one word to select the associated photo. Nixon is dead. How about a photo of the responsible parties?
Here you go.
http://tinyurl.com/b74g3bb
Clever pic. Wrong….. but still clever.
no where near as bad as the FBI/CIA illegally investigating the AP
It is in fact meant to distract us from the FBI/CIA illegally investigating the AP.
If the Tea Baggers did nothing wrong, they had nothing to fear. They hadn’t done anything wrong, (maybe not too bright, but it was all legal,) and they proved it.
Find me a single poor stupid wretch of a Tea Bagger who’se currently languishing in Federal prison as a result of the tax scrutiny…
Now find me a single tax official who wasted real and political capital and deserves to be fired, and fire the schmuck.
If you say the wrong thing, you will be harassed by agents of the government.
In France, the government fears its people.
In the ‘States the people fear their government.
There are historic reasons for this.
The French had their revolution and guillotined their 1%ers.
The French government knows first hand what can happen when you push people too far.
The American government will have to go the same punishment predicted by the founding fathers: “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” – Thomas Jefferson
Its called a questioning technique.
You ask seemingly irrelevant questions to catch the guy stating the truth at a meaningful question.
The IRS are past masters at getting how many shekels you really have in your left sock because they have learned it from people who used to literally be able to put your feet to the fire.
Since physical torture has been frowned upon as a method of gathering taxes from the peasants since before this country was a country, they have before experts at ferreting out information in other ways.
Its called presumption of guilt when the entity can seize your assets before guilt is determined. The fact that it didn’t happen here is beside the point.
Indeed. That issue isn’t in this scenario at all.
Dare to be relevant.
Dumb as a post.
(You are) Dumb as a post.
Nice comeback….for a 6 year old.
So you had to have your mother explain it to you?
Yes—this is being used as a distraction. What is “extra stupid” is that this “issue” even if totally true could even be used as a distraction. NOTHING HAPPENED.
What does “TeaParty named organizations applications for tax exempt status were given extra scrutiny” EVEN MEAN???? NOT A SINGLE APP WAS DENIED. Meanwhile, several liberal/progressive application that were not given special scrutiny were NOT APPROVED. Oh…..the horror.
The real scandal here is that even with extra scrutiny, no application was denied. Not the “general american public” as the stooge said but rather the SUPER RICH wanting to defraud the people by filing a political advocacy group as a tax exempt group.
The SCANDAL here is the IRS not giving every such application the scrutiny required to deny most of them.
Silly people.
“The real scandal here is that even with extra scrutiny, no application was denied.”
Many were not granted either… many have been waiting for more than 5 years. Many dropped it because it was taking to long and couldn’t pay a layer to intervene for them.
Ha, ha. Have I been misled? Denied vs Delayed??
I heard one commenter say these 501-c-3 orgs are allowed to call themselves that and go out and raise money and operate. This “approval” process is to give that extra layer of certainty to their donator class.
Fair enough though. Unlike the Mick==my opinion can change when the facts change.
My complaint remains unanswered in the main. Too many non-profits are that in name only allowing the SUPER RICH to push their political objects while not having to release the donor names and getting a tax break all at the same time.
I personally don’t care about the money issue that much. I do care about the lack of transparency and the ease of misleading the Public AND MEDIA.
Everyone involved is just….. stupid.
JEBUS H CHRIST—can’t you give extra scrutiny to an application without making a list of who you are doing this to? Ha, ha. Yes–these irs agents do deserve to be fired.====for being too stupid. Too Mick-ish.
” Too many non-profits are that in name only allowing the SUPER RICH to push their political objects while not having to release the donor names and getting a tax break all at the same time.”
Like Priorities USA Action?
We liberals agree that EVERYBODY — left and right — should go by the same rules.
“Crossroads GPS” and “Priorities USA” should _both_ be registered as political groups, not not non-profit social charities.
Can we agree on that reform?
Is that something positive that should come out of this IRS “scandal”?
My fear is that conservatives aren’t interested in fixing anything — only cheap political opportunism.
I believe the real scandal here is that all of these political advocacy groups are treated under the tax code as the same as charitable organizations.
Having said that, whatever the rules are they should be applied the same way to all of them.
IRS audit? Don’t talk to them. Send your account or tax adviser to the audit. If you go DON’T TALK! Better yet, don’t go.
That was not questioning. That’s badgering. Max time to answer before being interrupted in the answer was 5 seconds. It’s a series of rhetorical questions. Should have responded “I’m sorry, I did not understand the question. Please repeat it.” The questions may be correct, but the method is not one constructed to actually elecit answers, so what’s the point?
It must be fun to do that. It reminds of when Al Franken took apart the Halliburton lawyer.
I still think the Justice department shenanigans dwarf anything in either the IRS or Benghazi messes.
This is the hyped outrage du jour. There is no conspiracy and the IRS is required by law to scrutinize political parties applying for special tax considerations .
They asked about who are their interns, what family members do they have working elsewhere, etc. Compiling a list of who else to audit.
Everyone agrees they are out of line – including two term President Obama
He’e the one who ordered it.
Mike Kelly has about as much investigational integrity as Nancy Grace.
“How much money do you have in your wallet? Who do you get emails from? ”
This a _fictional_ scenario he made up! And then “McCullough” quotes it as policy!
If it is just a dog and pony show, if it is just a scandal, it IS a potential OUTRAGE waiting to happen. After they fix this they might want to touch on foreign money going to political parties. Now there IS an OUTRAGE happening.
This article may she a little more light on who pretty much had to know or should have known what was going on: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/irs-chain-command-suggests-scandal-not-limited-low-level-employees_728777.html