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Hey, Dvorak, I LOVE you man…Happy Birthday!
I can’t afford to produce your show…but, you can have my kids…home school them well, please…
Um, why the hell do I have to pay for your bad decisions? If you choose to make a child it should be your responsibility not mine. My property taxes are all ready high enough thanks to your little crumb crunchers, who don’t do dick in school but give teachers PTSD and then we wonder why these shity teachers always want a raise.Why we can’t have more kids like the ones in India or china.
In the long run, society pays the price for your bad parenting.
No. All those “secondary effects” on the society from INDIVIDUAL decisions that Left likes so much to imagine (so that they can craft rules and control) are plain and total BS in a culture/society based truly on USA Constitutional principles. Now, if society decides to be a Nanny State,than there is indeed a feedback but only and only because of decision to meddle in people’s lives at the state cost. No state meddling and no state control – no net effect. Just positive/negative feedback to the very person who made decision and their immediate family.
My brother in Austin, TX called to complain about his property taxes. $1,900 on his 1,600 sq/ft house. I live in upstate NY. I said my property taxes were $1,400 on an 1,100 sq ft house, so that did not seem out of line. But what really kills me are the school taxes of $3,500.
Long silence….
My brother said “My property taxes include school taxes.”
“You bastard!”
Every year the non-property owners vote to increase the school budget over the State cap. Single parents in rental properties vote it up. Rental property is assessed much lower than residential (got to support Business!) so I get hammered every year.
One of the reasons I wish the fed gov was out of education is that the more layers of government you have, in most cases, the less the people at the top making the calls knows about how to do the jobs they are telling other people how do in great detail when they simply don’t have a clue and in many cases simply don’t care. Whatever goes wrong it’s going to be somebody elses fault and they were simply following directions anyway.
Knock it back to the states and give the parents vouchers and get the bleep out of the way. The states that succeed will act as role models the failing states will try to emulate because their voters will insist on it sooner or later. The public schools will try to do their best because they will be in competition with the private sector.
Nobody should have kids.
They grow up to become adults.
Are there not more relevant, pressing and more current issues to discuss? Is DU just getting Lazy?
I don’t agree with her and it is her opinion, which is going nowhere. So why the fuss?
Or is this more Alex Jones manufactured indignation to whip up the masses BS?
When exactly did Alex Jones start working for MSNBC?
Hum, what a question “When exactly did Alex Jones start working for MSNBC?”
Let me know what you find out!
“So why the fuss?”
Nice troll comment. You’re sounding like Boobbo.
Explain why that is a troll comment!
Typical Repuk, can’t stand dissent.
Your thinking is so fragile and flimsy, any dissent is intolerable, sad!
I think the overall notion is (although she didn’t get it across well) that ‘it takes a village’. We can argue whether the solution is more money or a change in attitude or people making better decisions, but the theme, that the community is a hugely influential force, isn’t a bad one.
You are absolutely right with a reasoned reading.
The REPUKs are again trying to manufacture indignation to whip up their sorry masses.
It’s more of the GWB REPUK brainwash meme “you’re either with us, or against us” they can’t break from.
So heaven forbid, anyone should unintentionally challenge their self-designed “religion”.
It takes a village to raise an idiot.
I think what she said carefully parsed is that the kiddies are not “exclusively” the responsibility of parents to raise. Society has an interest and roll as well–an unavoidable one that we in society suffer the results of whatever we are doing or not doing.
No one can deny that–with supporting argument. Hmmm—let me rephrase to avoid the Puke Dogma:
No one can effectively argue against that.
Ha, ha. Thats more better. I love it when everyone is forced to read my advise. All you all should imply my council.
Like so many issues covered at DU==the issue is orphaned when one side or the other claims its all one thing. Legitimately==the issue is finding where the line is between the competing interests. In its most arduous form, this is called “thinking.”
Yea, verily.
Oooh! She says All Our Kids Are Belong To THE STATE!!!
There’s a big difference between “THE STATE” and “community.”
I grew up in a small town. If some kid was seen doing something wrong, chances were the person witnessing it knew the kid, knew his/her parents and would not only call the kid by name and reprimand him/her, but would make sure the parents heard about it. It was definitely hard to get away with mischief.
When she says “community,” that’s what I think that’s the kind of thing she’s referring to, rather than the monolithic “THE STATE.”
Yes, but aren’t we all just part of the collective, the “World Community”. Hmmm?
Melissa Harris-Perry’s idea is the extension of Hillary Clinton’s ‘It Takes a Village’, and I for one think MHP is the prime candidate for idiot.
All I’m say’n is I’m tired being taxed $8K/year to train and corral dumb ass sheeple spawn as their ‘parents’ brainwash them to be bigoted little fuckers years later.
This communist method of collective raising of baby sheeple needs to stop. Want to spawn? Pay up!
That’s almost what we pay a year for two houses and 18 acres and I am also tired as paying to raise little banger wannabes. I go to get fuel yesterday and I can’t stand a dumbass walking around with his pants around his knees.
Hot chick maybe, dumbass wannabe, no.
“This communist method of collective raising of baby sheeple needs to stop. Want to spawn? Pay up!” /// I agree that seems the more fair, the more rational. But the fact that parents get a reduction in taxes while non-spawners are called upon to pay taxes one way or another for schools is the fact that “we all” are raising the blessed little kiddies.
One way is as you say: what the school curriculum is. Through representational democracy and the occasional lawsuit, we are all involved in that.
What “real” differences does it make to a generation where one plays dodge ball and is given grades while another is purely motivational marking areas of needing help and dodge ball is replaced with…cross country map reading?
Kiddies–the stoopid hoomans of the future.
And when you’re through sucking up the “anal-ysis” from the dude who constructed the video, he’s having a sale on his Total Body Detox and Colon Cleanse.
You’ll need it.
Having grown up in the public school system and recently graduating high school. I can say from personal experience that the notion of the responsibility of raising our “kiddies” should not be exclusively left to the government. It should be left for the individual to decide how he/she raises their offspring in my opinion.
I always thought being home-schooled was a pretty sweet deal. Public education is whatever you make of it but in my experience it was not all that fun or worthwhile. Other’s opinion may differ.
Also, whenever the kid “comes of age” it is ultimately up to them how they decide which dogma to follow.
I believe the actual correct interpreted meaning is that if you are stupid you are accountable to someone who is looking after the rights of your children as human being who deserve to have maximum potential in this world.
I see no problem with this.
You are exempt from this if you are taking proper care of your children, but no you will not be the judge of that.
Quite fair. Children are important and deserve parents that are looking out for their best interests.
But “the State” will never be a substitute for caring parents.
WTF? The lady was emphasizing the need for community when raising kids. She didn’t say that the kid’s were the sole responsibility of the community only that the community shares in the upbringing of everyone in it. Now if you are some doomsday-everyone-for-himselfer, then i can see taking exception to what she says. If so, go hide in a cave and let civilization commence without you.
The monster’s lawyer has it right. Just this woman is too “eddicated and uppity” for some folks to deal with.
No surprise there, either.
Perhaps liberals will wise up when the government goes after liberals, like with the marijuana dispensaries.
http://missoulian.com/news/state-and-regional/montana-supreme-court-hutterites-must-pay-workers-compensation/article_495e25fa-5428-11e2-bd43-0019bb2963f4.html
who is dis bitch?
–she looks like an alien shapeshifter!
Yes, this make perfect sense as we can see it in practice. The foster care system shows what happens when the community takes the place of the family. Abuse, neglect, and other social ills virtually disappear overnight for children under state control. – Wait, this is opposite day, right?
Don’t be McCullough’s dupe.
He’s such a right wing hack.
He misquotes the video and uses the world “State” and you fall or it.
Funny how a black woman (“African American” or whatever the P.C. term is) talks about children as though they belong to someone – like SLAVES!
Funny how these “enlightened” individuals tend to promote the most oppressive agendas that would make people like Adolf Hitler blush. The funny part is how they don’t seem to realize it.
And if you think a libtard moron does understand their hypocritical “beliefs” then watch the video again because this one idiot clearly does NOT!
Kids are NOT slaves, chattel or anything else that “belong” to anyone except PARENTS! The problem with idiots like that libtard is that they tend to ignore the fact that a child’s parent(s) is RESPONSIBLE for TEACHING their kids how to be good productive people. But then, “responsibility” seems to be a 4-letter word in the libtard Obama world.
I totally agree with this video.
If a kid is succeeds in life, the whole community benefits.
If a kid fails, we all pay.
I would change “ownership” to “the responsibility of” everyone. Then I’m in – 100%. I think the idea of owning anyone, even our children, has been immeasurably damaging.
“MSNBC” is actually code for “The Douchebag Network”