In the weeks leading up to his alleged shootings that left three dead and another wounded, former LAPD officer Christopher Jordan Dorner is thought of have stalked some of those named in a manifesto he is believed to have posted online, law enforcement sources told The Times.
Authorities were involved in a massive manhunt for Dorner, 33, and issued alerts across California and Nevada for the former cop, who is suspected of killing a couple in Orange County earlier this week and fatally shooting a Riverside police officer Thursday morning.
Dorner is suspected of visiting the homes of some of those named in the manifesto as he allegedly plotted out his attacks, according to the sources.
The Los Angeles Police Department had dispatched units across the area to protect at least 40 officers and others named in the rambling manifesto that Dorner…posted online.
Dorner was believed to be carrying multiple weapons, including an assault rifle.
Law enforcement authorities said they were concerned about Dorner’s military background and weapons training. The lengthy online message allegedly written by the former Navy Reserve lieutenant threatened “unconventional and asymmetrical warfare” against police.
Dorner received awards for his expertise with a rifle and pistol, according to military records obtained by The Times. He received an Iraq Campaign Medal and was a member of mobile inshore undersea warfare unit.
The former officer, who was fired from the LAPD in 2009, is suspected of shooting three officers, one of whom died, in Riverside County early Thursday morning…
Early Thursday, two women delivering newspapers in Torrance were shot by Los Angeles police who were guarding an officer named in the manifesto.
The women, shot in the 19500 block of Redbeam Avenue, were taken to area hospitals, Torrance police Lt. Devin Chase said. One suffered a minor wound, and the other was struck twice and listed in stable condition, LAPD Chief Charlie Beck told reporters. “Tragically,” Beck said, “we believe this is a case of mistaken identity.”
Follow the link to the TIMES for multiple sidebars. Dorner is said to have tried to steal a boat – he was part of the LAPD’s harbor patrol. He’s also reported to be carrying a .50-calibre sniper rifle.
He was fired for what? When others that did worse are protected and LAPD wants Manefesto read on the radio. Hmmm, there is alot here we will never know after he is dead.
That’s what I was wondering, he turns someone in and gets fired. Maybe he has a reason to be a little pissed off.
According to NBC news he was fired for making false statements. Take that for what you will.
LAPD Chief Charlie Beck told reporters. “Tragically,” Beck said, “we believe this is a case of mistaken identity.” /// I don’t read Manisfestos==too rapidly it becomes like reading a bible, doesn’t make any sense unless you already believe. Does anyone know?: does a close reading of this Manisfesto reveal that one assassination technique of this large Black Man include masquerading as two short white women going door to door in a neighborhood? Man–that special ops training is getting pretty good.
I read the first 1/4 and the last 1/4.
If this guy is half as dangerous as he thinks he is, the LAPD is in deep shit; not just from him but from copycats, too.
Say LL–could you do everyone on this blog a favor?
Since you read some of the Manifesto, can you give us a synopsis of any length appropriate rather than just your gut response conclusion?
Eg: “The guy claims to be able to make head shots from one mile out and estimates he can take out a squad of SWAT team members when sent to a set up address.”==ie, something that demonstrates you actually read anything…. and why someone else might want to?
Not for ME and other trolls==but the fine community of DU’s here who have been waiting for anything original from yourself.
Dare to Impress!
Booger! I didn’t know anybody picked you.
This is a very serious matter.
The man is a whistle-blower.
There will be no attempt to take him alive.
Thank God we civilians can safely sit on the sidelines while the regime crushes those veterans who are overly concerned with justice and the Constitution.
They are all potential terrorists, don’t you know.
This is kind of like when the DC sniper was on the loose. A huge amount of manpower was used trying to stop him and quite a few peoples civil rights were trampled on. For the most part the public accepted the abuse as a necessary evil.
The guy is killing cops and it will end with the death of this cop. Liberals are ecstatic.
That’s disgusting, you looking to troll some fish? Go elsewhere for your sick jollies.
Nah, he’s right.
The number 33 sticks out like a sore thumb. I really hope for the safety of this guys enemy’s that the talk of a .50 caliber sniper rifle is bogative.
His vehicle has been found and burned out. The shooter of the day could be anywhere in the southwest right now.
A 300 win mag, WSM, or your basic non-exotic 30.06, .308, or .223 is lethal and accurate out to 500 yards well beyond for anything larger than the .223. It just doesn’t sound as sexy in the news.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rnO3LMEWZwk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UmqIxn6HExY
Yes sparky the 50 shoots along way. In your extensive research you did notice that non fifty calibers also have thousand yard plus kills ranges, didn’t you.
Confirmed sniper kills
rifle range caliber
M24-1,367 yds 7.62×51
L115A3-1,853 yrds .338 Lapua
Tac 338-2,100 yrds .338 Lapua
L115A3-2,707 yrds .338 Lapua Longest confirmed non-fifty kill.
It’s not the gun that’s scary, it’s the person behind the trigger. If they have the skill set they can kill you with a .22 at 100 plus yrds.
Agreed. It’s the individual that’s deadly.
Not the rifle. See guns don’t kill, people do…but let’s not go there again.
Speaking of Christopher Jordan Dorner.
CNN’s Erin Burnett just went off the rails and asked Mike Rogers who is the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee if drones would be used in this type of manhunt. Good ole U.S. of A. where are you.
Christopher Jordan Dorner’s rant reads similar to the movie I watched late last night. “Dark Blue”
Augh, tough solution for this one for Progressives. Should they call out for removing guns from police as policemen obviously go mad and kill or should they keep their policy of heavily armed police and helpless citizens? Tough one.
Obviously—guns are killing people. They have that hypnotic mind control ability that makes their will to be ambulatory take flight.
Police have computers, radios, backup, tasers, training to undertake 99% of their work. Leave the 1% for a special trained SWAT team.
Stop failing to see that guns are the problem, not the answer.
Just look.
Leave the 1% for a special trained SWAT team.
1%? You haven’t been paying attention. They call out SWAT for just about anything these days. Maybe it’s not nefarious, they probably get extra pay for SWAT, so they’re just padding their paychecks.
And never forget that it’s a requirement that any department within an organization (public or private) MUST spend all of their budget every year or risk being defunded next year.
Plus, I’m sure they love running around looking like soldiers.
I’ve noticed that and agree. I’m not describing the present case though.
When it makes sense for USA police forces to be better integrated into the communities they serve and only need radios, no guns, then SWAT will be greatly reduced.
I grog your understanding that SWAT use is to pad the pay checks. Happens all the time with any specialty pay. Just treating the community as if it were a nail, instead of needing social safety net health care services.
jpfitz says:
2/7/2013 at 6:52 pm
Pedro, this subject matter is serious. Please tread lightly. /// Hmmm… taking on the Role and Character of the Church Lady?
Many if not most issues raised here at DU are “serious.” I also get upset. Tellingly, I am led to play with names, be accusatory, and scatological. I never have thought of trying to shame anyone though. No fun at all, or even I thing appropriate, to be all dignified and stuff. I will follow your progress in this new modem for outrage response.
btw—kicking Pedro will do no good at all. Aim for his donkey, thats where it could hurt. Threaten to dress the animal with a red kerchief and a too wide sombrero.
That gets Pedro all the time…. but ya gotta be firm!
You brought back the donkey!
Well, extreme situations call for extreme measures.
A little humor sprinkled on top.
Thanks for the much needed humor.
Did you read the complete rant of the frustrated madman?
Some clarity and light eking into the LAPD. I see this bad event having the ability to change the sky above forever in the USA.
Nah…as stated…. the 2-3 I tried to read in the past are actually hurtful to me. They might start with a good idea/half a sentence and then they go to a place that ruins the set up.
Like talking to anyone who vaunts and ideology over every day common sense and logic. Like “seriously” wanting to argue guns don’t kill people. You see my short fuse on that serious subject…. I can’t imagine trying to read a whole rant on the issue.
And that is why I asked LL to synthesize it rather than just be a ditto head. He can impress and inform us in a single stroke.
Sounds like you did?===whad he say?
Like I said…He’s a sensitive man, who on the playground stood his ground and when called a pejorative for the first time he popped the kid in the face. This race issue followed him all his life. In the LAPD there was the racism of the Nazi type.
Singing Nazi youth songs. There in the Academy he reported the racist behavior and was not given the time of day.
He goes on about his female partner, nicknamed…chupacabra. And the female officer is proud of the nickname.
There’s much more about his credit union account trying to being hacked. The IP address leads to?? You guessed it chupakabra.
They go to court and chup. lies, so he says.
Bla bla bla. He is fired by the LAPD. Which in turn gets him booted from the Naval reserve.
Injustice and Constitution defender now will assassinate all who wronged him, including their children. Reason being he wasn’t afforded the same opportunity.
The shooter has anti personal mines or something similar. He’s a decent shot but not a sharp shooter. Being trained by the LAPD he knows all their tactics and responses.
Death is his intention. All aimed at the LAPD. Even the good cops, cause they stood by and watched. He plans on dying to fix the LAPD forever. Besides using conventional weapons, he claims to be able to have all the resources of technology and training to find your wife and children.
Christopher Jordan Dorner addressed his rant “To America”. He wants his name back. Meaning his reputation has been ruined through no fault of his own, but, because of injustice through racism and the blue line.
There’s much more. Too much. I can’t believe I typed so many keys.
Church Lady tired now.
Church Lady will be shoveling a lot of snow Saturday. Ahh.
Wow! Thanks for the effort. The result of which, I will give it a starting read.
Shirley, the manifesto is not laced with the comedic elements you provided?
I spit beer thru my nose with “Chupacabra”….. AND she’s proud of it.”
On only a slight tangent, the result of my break in and trying to evict my house mate, I’ve had fun interacting with my own Thin Blue Line. As long as I view them as stooges carrying out the department policies, I stay calm.
Money makes the irritations in life go away=my father used to say. Having only a little money, also makes even little problems go away.
The future is so bright, I gotta wear Kevlar Underwear with my Shades.
Two women delivering newspapers were struck by gunfire.
They were taken to area hospitals, Torrance police said.Their blue pickup was riddled with bullet holes and what appeared to be newspapers were scattered in the street.
http://ktla.com/2013/02/07/women-delivering-newspapers-in-torrance-shot-in-manhunt-for-ex-cop/#axzz2KGof99cf
Within minutes they opened fire on another truck around the corner. The police isn’t going to take this man alive. They have orders to shoot to kill and ask questions later. Or should I say… their questions already have answers and printed out for the media.
This guy knows to much and the police is going to kill him no matter what… I’m sure O-Dumb-Shit has the drones out looking for him.
What do you bet there’s a hell-fire on it. Screw reconnaissance, one click, boom.
We can take comfort in the fact he passed a background check.
On second thought can people change after a background check?
OTOH–imagine those who fail?
Bobbo,
Will your second childhood culminate in puberty?
Not that I want you to be able to breed.
Well that is certainly generic I must say.
Got nuts?
Not just a background check, but also a psychological evaluation.
While catching a portion of “The Rachel Maddow Show” as I grazed cable, the following specious conspiracy theory came to mind with absolutely no facts or reason to back it up.
The manhunt for this former cop may be something to take the news media’s mind off of the “Drone strikes against Americans are Legal.”
Add Winter Storm Nemo hitting the East coast and the weekend news cycle will be saturated.
I like Rachel. More “news” and ANALYSIS than most other shows, but she is only human and I have noted MSNBC has its own polemic faults. less but just as they all do.
Hooman Beings do love to see patterns in the random.
On the same nite I came across “The Ed Show” on MsNBC interviewing someone about Chris Christies weight and how tough it would be for him to slim down. The person interviewed?
Rev. Al Sharpton.
How lazy does a show and its producers have to be to go no further than their own network to book a “guest”. Rev. Al has lost a lot of weight but so has Hucklberry and Al Roker.
I do agree on “Rachel”. She has as much objective analysis on one hr as another network has all nite.
jpfitz says:
2/7/2013 at 9:14 pm
Like I said…He’s a sensitive man, who on the playground stood his ground and when called a pejorative for the first time he popped the kid in the face. This race issue followed him all his life. /// You know…. if any of our Ed’s were “of color” we might get a post once in a while on this inflammatory subject.
I mean, after all, we fought the Civil War and my Family has never owned slaves (other than apprentices in a grain mill my Greatest Grand Dad owned, built and ran in parts of Canada way back when) , and we gave them welfare and affirmative action and didn’t Clinton say we were sorry?
How come that doesn’t settle it?
…… and here might be just one more sad example of why not.
bobbo said,
“I mean, after all, we fought the Civil War and my Family has never owned slaves (other than apprentices in a grain mill my Greatest Grand Dad owned, built and ran in parts of Canada way back when) , and we gave them welfare and affirmative action and didn’t Clinton say we were sorry?
How come that doesn’t settle it?”
I don’t think settling the score is the problem. It’s the continued good ole white boy attitude prevalent and encouraged in the ranks, be it the military or the LAPD.
Being called a nigger as a black man from a fellow officer who’s white caused the black officer to ask for such language to be stopped. Add to that another officer who chimes in and says I’ll say nigger any time he wants to whom ever he wants. The black officer lost his cool and throttled the white officer. Complaints were made and all were put on some sort of disciplinary leave. Nothing changed, the culture of racism continued in the department and we’re back to the good ole white boy attitude and treatment of minorities.
I will say one thing about this tortured soul, while on the job, from his rant he seemed to have compassion for the individuals he had to arrest, especially the mentally ill and elderly. I am coming to the conclusion that maybe he was just too sensitive for the job, or is it that the LAPD is rife with psychopaths, who enjoy inflicting pain and anguish on the citizens that pay their salaries. I don’t condone his actions in any way, I just try putting myself into his shoes and walk with his frustration. If not for my wife I would have been a member of the NYPD. I wonder if I would have had skin thick enough for the job.
Another right-wing looney, aye?
This loon said he will surrender if he gets an apology from LAPD.
In a news confrence this afternoon a spokesman said they would
not issue an apology. What a stupid hard-headed position to
take. Make the statement! No one on earth but maybe the
murder is going to beleave it……
What did you expect from the assholes in the LAPD.
Just for the record, as per his manifesto, this guy is a big supporter of Obama and Hilary. He is also for gun control. Go figure.
Democrats are the worst Gun Nuts.
Just for the record, I don’t see where he mentions Obama, Hillary or gun control in his manifesto.
So you’re saying Mrsurfboard was to lazy to provide a few quotes from the manifesto to prove his statement, or maybe he doesn’t know how to use “cut and paste” on his computer, or maybe he just made the sh*t up?
FYI- The linked manifesto must be edited. Here’s the longer one…
http://myfoxla.com/story/21018858/murder-suspect-chris-dorner-online-manifesto-about-slayings
Don’t worry conservatives… he throws some love your way…
Gov. Chris Christie. What can I say? You’re the only person I would like to see in the White House in 2016 other than Hillary. You’re America’s no sh*t taking uncle. Do one thing for your wife, kids, and supporters. Start walking at night and eat a little less, not a lot less, just a little. We want to see you around for a long time. Your leadership is greatly needed.”
…and…
“The honorable President George H.W. Bush, they never give you enough credit for your successful Presidency. You were always one of my favorite Presidents (2nd favorite). I hope your health improves greatly. You are the epitome of an American and service to country.”
In the Teapublican news bubble, he’s a liberal. Those of us who live outside the bubble just need to roll the eyes.
From Christopher Dorner’s manifesto:
Anti-NRA:
Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you’re a vile and inhumane piece of shit. You never even showed 30 seconds of empathy for the children, teachers, and families of Sandy Hook.
Loves Piers Morgan:
…give Piers Morgan an indefinite resident alien and Visa card. Mr. Morgan, the problem that many American gun owners have with you and your continuous discussion of gun control is that you are not an American citizen and have an accent that is distinct and clarifies that you are a foreigner. I want you to know that I agree with you 100% on enacting stricter firearm laws.
The killer is also a huge Obama supporter and fan of gun-control.
Loves Obama:
You disrespect the office of the POTUS/Presidency and Commander in Chief. You call him Kenyan, mongroid, halfrican, muslim, and FBHO when in essence you are to address him as simply, President. The same as you did to President George W. Bush and all those in the highest ranking position of our land before him. Just as I always have. You question his birth certificate, his educational and professional accomplishments, and his judeo-christian beliefs. You make disparaging remarks about his dead parents. You never questioned the fact that his former opponent, the honorable Senator John McCain, was not born in the CONUS or that Bush had a C average in his undergrad. Electoral Candidates children (Romney) state they want to punch the president in the face during debates with no formal repercussions. No one even questioned the fact that the son just made a criminal threat toward the President. You call his wife a Wookie. Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama.
Pro Gun Control:
Who in there right mind needs a fucking silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!
Mia Farrow said it best. “Gun control is no longer debatable, it’s not a conversation, its a moral mandate.”
The guy is all over the place, but Mrsurfboard is correct – Editor.
Thank you for doing some work that others passed on.
He’s worse than a Democrat… he’s a moderate.
Your first and leading comment was false . He’s Anti Wayne LaPierre.
Therefore the rest of your post was not worth reading and assumed to be equally flawed and misleading.
“Your first and leading comment was false . He’s Anti Wayne LaPierre. Therefore the rest of your post was not worth reading and assumed to be equally flawed and misleading.”
And your point is? Please explain your position Dallas, as this isn’t a “post” just cut and paste from the man’s manifesto. I’m listening….
“Nyah Nyah words I don’t like! Not listening!”
Grow up, man. Narrow mindedness just makes you a tool.
I swear, you and Pedro need to kiss and make up or something…
You didn’t read his manifesto, then…
(Though gun control is mentioned as an acronym: AWB – Assault Weapons Ban)
He also says George H W Bush is his 2nd favorite exPotUS.
IMO, the manifesto starts out specific and seemingly credible…eventually winds down into a random collection of opinions/gripes. It’s a lot like the movie ‘Falling Down’ some years ago.
It’s like someone once said, “you have to be a good bully if you want to be a good cop.” And true to the bully stereotype we now have active cops shooting unarmed women delivering news papers. And all over some crazy ex-cop targeting active cops who probably deserve to cower a little. Frankly, it sounds a little like gang warefare.
Of course, this may all just be be a matter of a few disrespectful cowards who have finally pissed off the wrong guy. Cause when I see a force of cowards such as those who were on duty after huricane Katrina hit or cowards who taser 80-year old grandmothers (and the list goes on) it does make me wonder just how much of a lunatic this ex-cop really is. Crazy for getting this radical and shooting someone, sure. But just how crazy may be the real question since the cop who was shot may have deserved to lose his job but I doubt he should have lost his life.
Maybe, just maybe, you need to have a yearly renewal process for your gun license.
Every 4 years is enough. Oh and BTW. Officers of the law do not have to carry a permit. But I do fair??? I’m just saying.
?? Well maybe it is a story that shall play out. We may never find out why they would not play reindeer ( police) games with this guy. And just what drove him over the edge.
In the morning JCD Still luv ya man 😉
Funyfarm
Has anyone noticed that most crazed mass-murderers have some kind of “manifesto” they want to be publicized?
Maybe the ex-cop has a legitimate beef about being fired for being a whistleblower. Maybe not.
Now he will be dead and nobody will know anything for sure.
There is a revenge motive here. Nothing more.
I just wonder how many anti-depressants he is/was taking.
That is a valid concern.
My brother-in-law shot himself in the mouth in front of his wife and children after his wife brought up the subject of divorce.
I learned later that he was under treatment by a psychiatrist for depression and he was prescribed antidepressants.
Without knowing all the facts, it is impossible to say whether the antidepressants were a contributing factor. I would not be surprised to learn that they were not helpful.
If there is any saving grace to such a sad story, at least he did not turn the gun on his family first like this Denver mother did.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/autopsies-expected-denver-shooting-18430776
It was reported on our local news that he was going to “continue killing until his name is cleared”. I dnd’t read the manifesto, but if that appeared anywhere in it….
Excerpt from the killer’s “manifesto:”
I know your TTP’s, (techniques, tactics, and procedures). Any threat assessments you generate will be useless. This is simple, I know your TTP’s and PPR’s. I will mitigate any of your attempts at preservation. ORM is my friend. I will mitigate all risks, threats and hazards. I assure you that Incident Command Posts will be target rich environments. KMA-367 license plate frames are great target indicators and make target selection even easier.
I will conduct DA operations to destroy, exploit and seize designated targets. If unsuccessful or unable to meet objectives in these initial small-scale offensive actions, I will reassess my BDA and re-attack until objectives are met. I have nothing to lose. My personal casualty means nothing. Just alike AAF’s, ACM’s, and AIF’s, you can not prevail against an enemy combatant who has no fear of death. An enemy who embraces death is a lose, lose situation for their enemy combatants.
Hopefully you analyst have done your homework. You are aware that I have always been the top shot, highest score, an expert in rifle qualifications in every unit I’ve been in. I will utilize every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordnance, and survival training I’ve been given.
This killer is deadly serious about his intentions.
He will extract revenge until he is terminated.
He will not be taken alive. He will commit suicide before surrendering to authorities.
He has already killed one victim that was not related to the perceived injustices he outlined in his manifesto.
He has passed the point of no return. The only resolvable outcome to this scenario is his death.
Sad isn’t it?
There’ll probably be a few more deaths before this gets resolved, with the inevitable suicide by cop.
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Ever notice this shtufff only happens when the 2 nd amendment is in question ??? Hmmmm? Nuff said
Squirrel
The Second Amendment is not in question.
As always, the gun control debate centers around the type of firearm that is allowable under the Constitution.
Virtually everyone agrees that bazookas, howitzers and hand grenades should not be held in private hands.
Beyond that, there is a lot of room for debate.
What shtuff are you referring to? There are multiple murders by gun every day in America. Group shootings on a weekly basis and Mass Murders every few months.
Are you confusing the right to kill people with Second Amendment rights?
Hmmm…. that could explain a lot.
He looks like a pleasant enough fellow. I’d sell him a gun. 🙂
What does a psycho killer look like? 🙂
I always get a mental picture of Christopher Walken.
BOO!
Not to be cruel, but he looks like a huggable teddy bear, and Magilla gorilla.
Translation: Hit them in their Achilles’s Heel.
Much ado about nothing. Regardless of occupation (i.e. lawyer, dental technician, etc.), everyone in the Army and Marines is required to qualify as a Marksmen, Sharpshooter, or Expert. Each is a medal award, and it’s required in order to serve in those branches.
For the Navy it’s more of a merit badge. Officers can qualify with pistols and depending on your occupation, you can qualify with a military rifle. This is a ribbon award.
Means he was there during a certain period of time. It’s an attendance award.
All true.
Depending on his job in the MIWU (now Maritime Expeditionary Security Force), he might have the sniper training necessary to actually use that .50 from a distance. The Navy loves their .50s. They are usually on pintle mounts so carrying them around isn’t usually a problem.
Then again, he might just be a glorified Master-At-Arms, too. His job was defending an oil platform (nice use of our men at arms).
I guess we’ll find out in the next few days/weeks just how good ol’ Leroy is.
I don’t care what they say. That guy doesn’t look like the 71 year old white woman the cops shot in the back twice.
I’m about to stand up for gun control: If you are trigger happy idiot you don’t need a gun nor do you need to be a cop.
Take care and God bless.