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The catch is that Stellar Wind only captures data that is publicly accessible. They are using the freedom of speech to log all of your “speech” that you say in “public”. The real scary part is that Stellar Wind really isn’t unconstitutional. You do not have a right that protects you from the government recording the speech you freely speak in public. If you are worried about the government cataloging everything you do on the internet, then either only interact with private groups and sites, or just get off the internet.
Don’t think that I support this, though. I think it’s a power that will be manipulated and used for horrific purposes. We need politicians to make constitutional amendments protecting us from this kind of inspection.
Well said. C’est la vie.
Republican pigeon shit:: “really isn’t unconstitutional”!!
We have wiretapping laws and other such laws!!!! I dare you to Publicly announce and then wiretap someone unawares cellphone conversations!!!!
That is what NSA is doing! It’s not just the cell phone calls meta data they have been collecting, they are also collecting and storing the actual conversations. Their computer systems can automatically convert conversations (in the most common languages) to text for storage, along with the actual sound recordings!!
Terabyte hard drives are cheap, and billion(s) buy allot of them!!!
It is also Republican pigeon shit, that there is nothing we Americans can do!!!
Republican would like Americans to forget who they are and passively accept Republican initiated projects!!!!!
President Obama did challenge American to “make him do it,”; to organize and agitate and create the conditions for change!!!
Wake Up America. Widespread protesting in the streets is your only hope for retaining your birthright Freedoms!!!!
Talk in public on your cellphone in front of a cop, and see if what you say can be used in court. It’s not wiretapping if it’s shit you say publicly on the internet. This doesn’t mine anything that isn’t publicly accessible without an account. If they hacked into a private forum or chat to get the information, then THAT would be the same as wiretapping.
I suggest you brush up on your legalese. What you say in comments on here is absolutely no different than if you plastered it on a billboard in public. A real life example of this would be if the government made an invention that took pictures and documented every billboard you made and made a profile based on those billboards.
This doesn’t make what they are doing ok. This type of data mining will be extremely abused and will ruin tons of people’s lives because they are either politically active, or have politically incorrect opinions.
Ummm how is it “Republican” when the Democrats are in charge? How about putting the blame where it squarely belongs, on Obama?
I follow the Broken Wind program…
…… or it could be business as usual.
What can be done, will be done.
I think Derek covered the issues pretty well. I would however assume that the “private webtubes” get reviewed as well. Usual arguments apply.
https://silentcircle.com/
If there is any truth to this, there are plenty of greedy lawyers that would be willing to take this issue to court provided there is a cause for action.
There are many legal issues aside from the Fourth Amendment.
All wiretapping of American citizens by the National Security Agency requires a warrant from a three-judge court set up under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. After the 9/11 attacks, Congress passed the Patriot Act, which granted the President broad powers to fight a war against terrorism. The George W. Bush administration used these powers to bypass the FISA court and directed the NSA to spy directly on al Qaeda in a new NSA electronic surveillance program. Reports at the time indicate that an “apparently accidental” “glitch” resulted in the interception of communications that were purely domestic in nature. This action was challenged by a number of groups, including Congress, as unconstitutional.
If Stellar Wind is indeed a program as described by the NSA whistleblower, there is no question it is unconstitutional.
The problem is, if nobody knows of it, it cannot be challenged in court. I think that is the point being made by the whistleblower, if indeed he is a bona fide whistleblower.
The NSA spying didn’t start in 2001. Remember in 1998 Microsoft was caught putting an NSA backdoor in Windows 98.
It was common knowledge at one time and John and Adam even discussed it that the US has built several gods awful huge building much of which went down rather than up to store what well may all the data it can get on people. They are scraping the net including sites like this. They are buying what the people putting tracking cookies on your machines learn. They most likely know what your credit and debit card companies and phone companies know, etc.
At some locations they most likely are taking three hundred sixty degree super high resolution photos like the remarkable one first shown to the public of the Presidential inauguration. That combined with facial recognition software is going to let them identify who was at all sorts of public places at a given time. They can record what everyone says in public locations.
The real limit is storage and trying to convert this mountain of data into something useful and comprehensible. Of course if you are a homeless person and stay away from big stores and public events they may not have very much data about you.
I speculate about what would happen if a group (cough anonymous cough) were to hack into those records and publish a clear profile of all of our public representatives using that information. One of the frequently revived memes is “what if our representatives were required/forced to live under the laws they legislate?”
Wow! This discussion reminds me of the time I overheard a group of teenagers blabbering at each other while smoking crack.
Personally, I’ll say what I want to say, when and where I want to say it (and with a reasonable consideration to not yelling-fire-in-a-crowded-theater, etc.). If the government or anyone else doesn’t like it, they can go fuck off.
Yeah, go ahead and put me on some list. But on the day you come for me for exercising my First Amendment RIGHTS, you’d better pack a lunch, and you had better pack it in a bulletproof bag. And if you don’t like THAT statement, you can go fuck off TWICE.
Just don’t say anything against superstitious and magical thinking of a Supreme Being that lives on Mount Zion and informs us of our moral development.
Other than that, you are free to think and speak as you please.
The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history.
Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity.
It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.
Liberty, according to my metaphysics, is an intellectual quality, an attribute that belongs not to fate nor chance.
Neither possesses it, neither is capable of it. There is nothing moral or immoral in the idea of it. The definition of it is a self-determining power in an intellectual agent.
It implies thought and choice and power; it can elect between objects, indifferent in point of morality, neither morally good nor morally evil.
When people talk of the freedom of writing, speaking, or thinking, I cannot choose but laugh. No such thing ever existed. No such thing now exists; but I hope it will exist.
But it must be hundreds of years after you and I shall write and speak no more.
— John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President
Dick Gordon: National Security Agency.
Martin Bishop: Ah. You’re the guys I hear breathing on the other end of my phone.
Dick Gordon: No, that’s the FBI. We’re not chartered for domestic surveillance.
Martin Bishop: Oh, I see. You just overthrow governments. Set up friendly dictators.
Dick Gordon: No, that’s the CIA. We protect our government’s communications, we try to break the other fella’s codes. We’re the good guys, Marty.
Martin Bishop: Gee, I can’t tell you what a relief that is, Dick.
Lines from the Movie Sneakers. The movie still holds up today with 20yrs on it.
Where do I file a FOIA (Freedom Of Information Act) request to see my file?
I say publish it all, especially the data on politicians!
That would be the exactly right and American thing to do!!
To whom, how and where are indeed the hard questions to answer!!
Wired Magazine March 2012
http://wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/
I suggest you do some research about a company named Palantir. The military has used their product since 2009 to build the relationships and enable the data mining that Binney talks about in this video. Of course the military only uses this on the enemy, but who knows about the domestic agencies?
Also, you may want to look at who was at the Bilderberg conference this year. The CEO of Palantir.
If opposition to this kind of thing ever gains traction, don’t be surprised if white powder mysteriously gets sent to sympathetic media figures and politicians. Our government understands psy-ops and they know well how to scare people into willingly giving up privacy and autonomy.
The skids are greased. Totalitarianism, here we come!