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ignoring Bill Nye.. I get the feeling John and Adam are completely anti-science.
All religions are bunk. There are no gods, period. Belief in creationism is a fool’s most defining moment.
I really feel sorry for those who have been so badly taken in by religious types without a single scrap of real evidence. So sad.
Presuming there might be someone out here that cares, please give us your particular definition of “real” evidence.
Tangible, repeatable, logical proof based entirely on observable phenomena which can be verified by unbiased parties in an objective manner.
Let me add that it starts with a falsifiable hypothesis.
A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion.
Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious.
— Aristotle (384-322 BC) Greek philosopher
The guy is free to express his views as is everyone else. Reality is that we are supremely ignorant about how the Universe came to be or even what the Universe really is or how it operates. That being the case one ignoramuses ignorant blathering is just about as likely to be correct as any other’s which should take the heat out of the debate but obviously doesn’t.
Please don’t give me the “Science knows” bit. The really smart scientists don’t hesitate to tell you just how little they really do know about this topic.
We actually know a lot about the origins of the universe, and it’s honestly fascinating as hell. If you want some suggestions on books, articles, or documentaries about this stuff, let me know (I am being serious).
And then you start calling people ignoramus. :/ Let’s try to be a bit more mature please?
But all that aside… I don’t understand why science is such a perceived threat. What if Genesis was metaphorical? Science is nothing but the formalized observation of the universe. If anything science should make you feel closer to God because it helps you understand his creation better.
What if Genesis was metaphorical?
What if it is not? Maybe Genesis is a cosmology invented by Iron Age scribes in an attempt to explain their existence.
If anything science should make you feel closer to God because it helps you understand his creation better.
Presumably God is everywhere all the time, an omniscient being without form. I don’t know how anyone could get closer to God under those circumstances.
Science is the exact opposite of magical thinking. If you understand why God would create humans for the sole purpose of worshiping Him then please explain.
Wow you sure are being hostile. I was just pointing out that it’s possible for a Christian to both believe the Bible and to be excited about science at the same time. I am not a Christian and was not trying to argue religion, I was just saying “Hey Christians out there, don’t let science get under your skin so much, it’s kind of cool.”
Science and religion will always be at odds, and trying to reconcile the two is a fool’s errand. Just one example is the famous story of the Wise Men, taking place in the very early part of the Christian story. Among other things, it asserts the validity of astrology as a valid channel through which the Creator of the Universe communicates to human beings. The Magi couldn’t have understood the Savior’s celestial birth announcement without a significant amount of successful practice in reading similar messages from God in the skies, so this was definitely not a one-time communication. When you think about it, it’s disturbing how many messages from the Creator that we might be missing due to our ignorance of astrological methodology.
Perhaps if we allowed more Christian influence in our public schools, we could bring the age-old “science” of astrology back to its rightful place of prominence, thereby bringing us all closer to our Creator and Savior. Maybe we should study astrology in place of evolution.
Bad ideas are never in short supply.
Gary it’s attitudes like that that turn away inquisitive minds. It’s never bad to learn more about the world around you regardless of your belief system.
Up to the parents to decide until the child reaches their own conclusions as they get older.
Otherwise just another person who wants the government to supersede parental rights.
Guyver you are so right.
Unless the parent conduct is abusive, they have the right to teach their Children their beliefs.
It’s naive and a very dangerous tack for the government to take. I understand and appreciate Bill Nye’s concerns, but; he is wrong in directing parents not to share their life’s understanding.
There always has been a billion things parents are scientifically wrong about. Parents have historically enjoyed the right to be less then perfect.
It only should become a governmental matter, when it becomes abusive.
Expecting and enforcing governmental policing of Scientific accuracy in Parenting will only spread into other areas of life. It would become a loveless following of governmental approved discussions, resulting in an immediate squelching of creative speech and create a drive towards the “one approved standard” of scientific individual conformity and commonality.
America would become an abysmal and dead society. The communist tried aspects of this.
So, parents should have the right to teach and ingrain into their childrens psyche whatever strange notions and beliefs they happen to have. No matter how idiotic, barbaric, or disgusting. Because the parents freedom to do this is more important than the welfare of their childrens mental or spiritual condition. Is that about the size of it?
It’s a matter of who you trust more to be in charge of a child’s belief system, the inevitably imperfect parent(s) or the inevitably imperfect bureaucrat.
What you don’t seem to understand is that strange notions and beliefs are not limited only to parents.
I challenge you to point out any system, government, scientific agency or any institution that has never promoted strange notions and beliefs.
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