A Republican Senate hopeful sparked outrage on Sunday by suggesting that “legitimate rape” rarely results in pregnancy due to a woman’s biological defences. Todd Akin, a member of the House of Representatives and recently appointed Senate nominee for Missouri, made the claim during an interview in which he attempted to explain his no-exceptions policy in regards to abortion.
In reference to pregnancy resulting from rape, Akin told KTVI-TV: “First of all, from what I understand from doctors, that is really rare.
“If it is a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try and shut that whole thing down.”
A video for Todd.
Basic Sex Ed
Here are videos for the basics. This series is appropriate for 12 and up. Knowledge is power…. know what you’re getting yourself into before you’re there.
(If you’re 13 {in most places, other places it’s 14} or under you need your parent’s permission due to the internet laws)
“First of all, from what I understand from doctors, that is really rare.”
I would ask him to please provide the names of the doctors who told him this.
Dr. Kildare and Dr. Ben Casey of course.
Even Dr. House wouldnt say such a thing .
Esteemed (or is that S-Steamed) members of the AATYORG (Advanced Association of Ten-Year-Old Republican Gynecologists). Must be! Eeew gawd! You don’t supposed it could be?
Again, the subject portion of the sentence provides sufficient notice that something rather lunatic is about to stated.
…. Republican Senate hopeful…
Idiocy is not limited to one party. To think otherwise is baseless optimism.
This is one of the folks who is going to “reform” American education the same way they want to reform labor law, health care, civil rights and, of course, constitutional freedoms.
So to follow his logic:
“If it is a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try and shut that whole thing down.”
******and so******
If the female gets pregnant, the rape was legitimate therefore it’s the female responsibility/fault for getting pregnant.
I can see he really thought “long and hard” about this one.
King Henry the VIIIth had a similar problem. All those women giving birth to girls. Perfectly good and right they should be executed for criminally denying the King an heir.
I agree. Politicians should stay completely away from medical matters, as all of them are just talking out of their asses…to wit:
“[L]et’s take the example of something like diabetes, one of — a disease that’s skyrocketing, partly because of obesity, partly because it’s not treated as effectively as it could be. Right now if we paid a family — if a family care physician works with his or her patient to help them lose weight, modify diet, monitors whether they’re taking their medications in a timely fashion, they might get reimbursed a pittance. But if that same diabetic ends up getting their foot amputated, that’s $30,000, $40,000, $50,000 — immediately the surgeon is reimbursed. ” –Obama
Its Mittenz’ belief that if you didn’t think it might happen, then it shouldn’t happen.
That’s a much more affordable form of health-care.
That’s it! (along with all of the other BS!) I don’t know why I ever used to be a republican. Probably because my parents were…
But this kind of crap and the unwillingness for the republicans to actually do anything and negotiate.
Sorry all this crap can’t be blamed on the president Obama.
I just became a Democrat.
This guy isn’t as dumb as dirt because he’s a Republican, it’s because he’s from Missouri.
Me, Harry Truman, Mark Twain, Tennesse Williams, Sam Walton, Joseph Pulitzer, Charles Lindbergh, Edwin Hubble, Langston Hughes, Carry Nation, George Washington Carver, US Grant, John Pershing, Daniel Boone, Walt Disney, JC Penny, Maya Angelou, TS Eliot, Robert Heinlein, Laura Ingalls Wilder, Henry Bloch(H & R Block), Adolphus Busch, Joan Crawford, John Goodman, Betty Grable, Vincent Price, Redd Foxx, Michael McDonald, Omar Bradley, Walter Cronkite, Burt Bacharach and millions of lesser known Missourians harshly refute your ignorant statement.
ok,
this person is stupid..
This person makes Stupid look good..
Ok, where is his wife/Daughter/Grand daughter/…
Lets have a BIG PARTY..
1. do you know the SUGGESTIONS given to a person about to be raped?? If not, I suggest you look them up.
2. IF you didnt follow the rules in #1..you have few chances of waking up UN-abused/beaten/bloodied/maybe even broken in a few places.
NOW,
Any girls out there that WISH to sue this person for ignorance and Mis-information??
YOU may wonder WHY we dont listen to these folks..
As I always write on these blogs, we’d do better picking names out of a hat.
This critter is actually making decisions that affect all of us.
Illegitimate rape, however, often is the cause of triplet pregnancies.
What gobbledygook
And yet we continue to re-elect these people – rolling down the highway once again
Proof that you don’t need a bra… actually Shrub proved that already, didn’t he?
I’d like to meet anybody who actually voted for him, who was alive, (not just a name on some roll somewhere [lifted from a gravestone.])
I suspect that the vote counters must have been bought off.
No actual human being can be that stupid as to elect this turd to any position.
It was probably the way that the republican dressed that made them deserve to get raped.
“Legitimate RAPE”?! WHAT THE FUCK?!!! I don’t even want to see what that guy is smoking.
I seriously thought only lower life forms like SLUGS were that stupid. But it looks like we may now have a new contender for the stupidest dumb-ass state in the union – Missouri! I mean, if this guy is the majority winner from some crazy ass district in Missouri then all I can say is, wow! What a cluster-fuck full of dumb-asses that place must be.
And with that said, I still say California has Missouri beat for crazy ass dumb shit heads. And I only have to give one name to prove it – Nancy Pelosi! (Who, by the way, could probably use a little “legitimate rape” for what she’s done to America.)
What a life of leisure these guys get off with
One giant vacation
Yes one giant vacation none the less
Missouri, my home state….never good when it’s in the news. Anyway, this is the Church of the Pentecost and Baptist Union bible belt here, and every Sunday there are evangelical preachers telling people that rape can’t cause pregnancy and that doctors who provide abortions are guilty of first degree murder… Sometimes the politicians who pander to this crowd forget they really can’t say that kind of thing on T.V. As another regular poster frequently quotes, “same as it ever was” –Talking Heads
So he is willing to support not killing a child because his father is a rapist. Most people are not comfortable with this formulation, so he says it is a rare situation. Compare this to the current president, when asked why he would support killing babies even after they survive an abortion, he says it is above his pay grade to determine whether such a child is alive.
I wish everyone was a democrat and smart. It would be such a better world.
The position of Todd Akin on this subject is in line with the pro-life agenda of right-wing evangelicals.
Here is a reference to a study which claims that pregnancy from rape is very uncommon:
Concerning this, Dr. Stephen Krason writes: “A number of studies have shown that pregnancy resulting from rape is very uncommon. One, looking at 2190 victims, reported pregnancy in only 0.6 percent.” (Abortion: Politics, Morality, and the Constitution [Lanham, MD: University Press of America, 1984], p. 283.)
This reference is cited on this web site: ChristianAnsweres.Net
Is abortion justifiable in cases of rape or incest?
I find it difficult to believe that any study confirms that women who are raped rarely get pregnant. I would have to see that study.
I agree. My post above with the list of Missourians got put in a spam list when I had my source link in it – wikipedia.
Like politicians, the spam filter works in mysterious ways. Your comment was pulled back out.
dadeo says:
8/20/2012 at 5:48 am
Me, Harry Truman, Mark Twain, Tennesse Williams, Sam Walton, Joseph Pulitzer, Charles Lindbergh, Edwin Hubble, Langston Hughes, Carry Nation, George Washington Carver, US Grant, John Pershing, Daniel Boone, Walt Disney, JC Penny, Maya Angelou, TS Eliot, Robert Heinlein, Laura Ingalls Wilder, Henry Bloch(H & R Block), Adolphus Busch, Joan Crawford, John Goodman, Betty Grable, Vincent Price, Redd Foxx, Michael McDonald, Omar Bradley, Walter Cronkite, Burt Bacharach and millions of lesser known Missourians harshly refute your ignorant statement. //// And they all (sic) made their way by LEAVING Missouri. …… Most people that leave a place have more drive than those who stay. …… Just ain’t no more places to go to anymore. You know what THAT means!!!!
Ain’t that the truth. Texas thanks California for all those tech companies that came to Texas out of California’s stupidity and greed.
Why do you say that? California politicians merely feel that they are the reason for companies’ and people’s successes, and should be able to take as much of their income as they feel they need.
It’s a shame. The government couldn’t maintain their entitlement programs as they noticed their tax revenue shrinking.
What did they do? They just raised taxes instead of killing off entitlement programs. California is the U.S.A’s “Greece”.
Pregnancy from a single act of sex is probably rare anyway, so studies that show a low percentage of pregnancy may actually be proving the opposite of what Akin is saying.
This is not too different from Obama and other liberals saying their policies only affect a small percentage of the population, so you shouldn’t worry. Tax cuts on 2%, your health care plan will not be affected, etc.
The best I can come up with on this topic is that if a female is raped there is I believe something called the morning after pill and if she decides to use it, well that’s none of my business is it?
If the deed is to be done the sooner done the better.
Stupidity is a negative value outside of the Republican Party, so in common parlance the Stupidity Bar would be raised.
I did have To Whit wrong though, and for that I apologize. I did drive through Missouri once. Sun was going down. Made for a beautiful day.
WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!! Are we pole vaulting or doing the limbo?
Ha, ha.
In the school of dirty politics, which is worse or which even applies:
A. Restrict the Vote policies under cover of anti-fraud to remove a disproportionate amount of Democratic Voters–currently underway if not alreay in place in about 15 states, most of them swing states.
B. Democrats helping to fund legitimate Republican candidates they think would be easier to beat? I think I heard this happened in Missouri with McCaskill funding Akin assuming his ultra-retarded positions would come out.
Is it partisan bias on my part I think A is Heinous, and B doesn’t count?
In similar Mode==saw an electoral study that makes it “almost impossible” for Romney to get elected if he loses Florida ((because the oldsters vote their childrens interests against the ANTI-Medicare maneuverings of Ryan/Mr. Waffle)).
How do these clowns run so close in National Polls?===Shocking and Disgusting.
Silly Voters.
awhile back, a conservative columnist was on a TV show defending gun ownership, saying it is very useful to protect from rape. The liberal on the show said that the chance of the middleaged to old columnist’s being raped was very low. This did not lead to outrage from liberals as it advanced a liberal policy position.
You are quoting an accurate statement whereas this thread is about Akin’s INACCURATE statement.
Can you SEE THE DIFFERENCE???
…. or do you need more caps?
This Akin clown must be quoting “doctors” of theology. Not doctors of medicine. I’m sure the former believe this nonsense about a “legitimate rape”. What the hell does that even mean? Is there a “legitimate bank holdup”? Where no money is actually stolen, but the robbers still get away with a bag of loot? That neat little trick only worked for Lehman Brothers. But perhaps not for very long.
40% dumber than the internet is tubes criminal.
Akin…
Achievement Unlocked: Douchebag
I have some sympathy for Mr. Akin. His use of the term legitimate rape means he is aware of how the left is spreading propaganda. They tell tales of how women are more likely to beaten the day of the Super Bowl, or any other football Sunday. Then they put out studies of how so many women are raped. The key point in these studies that is often buried, is how they define rape. A quick google search on rape stats finds one report that 7% of men have engaged in behavior that legally meets the definition of rape, 27% of women have experienced it.
I strongly disagree. I have conversed with people who hold his belief that pregnancy cannot result from rape. Their logic goes as follows: rape cannot result in pregnancy so if the woman is pregnant it could not have been rape, i.e. “legitimate rape”.
This is usually followed by the assertion that there is far less rape because the numbers are skewed by women making false claims to get sympathy or deny a one-night fling or such. Again usually followed by the hint that the woman did not show enough physical injuries to back up her story that she was “forced”.
DO YOU KNOW THE RULES FOR WOMEN IN A RAPE SITUATION??
Go find them..PLEASE..
if nothing else go ASK a WOMEN..
the IDEA to fight BACK HARDER..is STUPID.
HOw would you feel if a person 50+ lbs more then you , started BEATING YOU?? to rape you..
OK, lets add to THIS..
IF you are a GUY…
SOME HOMO, that out weighs you by 50+ lbs, and know HOW TO HIT…is slamming you against a wall/floor..and ripping your clothes off.
every time you TRY to move, he SLAMS your head/face into the FLOOR..
What are you going to DO??
also, this is 1 room and has 1 DOOR..and HE LOCKED IT..
BEND OVER take it like a MAN..( i think is the saying??)
I am sorry ECA if I was not clear in my thoughts. I will try again.
Representative Akin reminds me of a number of people (usually conservative and religious) who I have dealt with who deny that rape can result in pregnancy. They also deny that many of the claims of rape are actually rape, but are actually the woman having second-thoughts about a sexual encounter. They also sometimes claim that the lack of injuries invalidates the claim of rape.
I do not have these beliefs. I recoil from the people who expound on these beliefs. And I despair that in this day and age, such ridiculous beliefs can still exist and how these idiots will actually speak these beliefs aloud in the presence of another human, much less speak them in front of a microphone.
Are the people in question from the south? You know, bible belt area.
I am a registered Republican but this guy is an example of why I vote Republican about 85% of the time.
-He can think, at least at present, whatever he damn well pleases.
-He can, within bounds, say whatever he wants to.
-He has the absolute right to expose his ignorance by speaking, which he did.
I too have come across people who believe as part of their religious world view that women’s bodies somehow sense rape and somehow does not get pregnant. Idiots.
The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy entry for “Feminist Perspectives on Rape,” for example, states that “we must recognize that, in some cases, ‘yes’ also means no. . . . The man may threaten to sue for custody of their children, to derail her green card application, to evict her, or simply to sulk and make her life miserable for days should she refuse to have sex. Which (if any) such nonviolent coercive pressures should be regarded as rape, either morally or legally, is a matter of some controversy.”
From Dennis Prager
If a woman miscarries the fetus, that’s a sign that her claim of rape is legitimate. Otherwise, she probably consented at the time and is lying after being overwhelmed with shame and regret.
And it’s true that witches do float. Always burn them.
Thanks todd, we were ahead of Mississippi until you had to go and open your mouth.
Thinking just a little bit outside the box, for a moment. I suspect what Akin was asked to do by the GOP, was to “fall on his sword”, so to speak. So Romney won’t have to come up with his economic plan to save the US. Temporarily diverting attention away from this subject and Romney’s failure to disclose all his tax filings, for more than one year. Things were just getting a little too much, “put up or shut up” for Romney, at this stage. Time to call in a scapegoat. And William Todd Akin drew the short straw. So he makes this rather obvious verbal blunder. Or is allowed to. Calling rape either “legitimate” (aka, not consensual sex), or (by extension of his logic) “non-legitimate” (consensual sex). In other words. Akin somehow pretended to confuse rape with normal procreation. Which is kind of like confusing robbing a bank, as working in a bank.
I think Akin could simply be a patsy for the GOP. Because we’ve never heard from him before. But out of the blue, they give him a soap box to embarrass himself on. And while he has a Masters in Divinity. He has neither a medical or legal background. So he shouldn’t be called on to interpret what “rape” means. So I think they put him up to explaining why he believes all abortions are bad. Just to have him crash and burn, to take the heat off Romney. Or maybe make Obama look good. If the GOP really wants to lose this election.