So how many think this might actually happen vs those who think Americans are too apathetic to riot over anything but the wrong contestant winning American Idol?
Imagine Tea Party extremists seizing control of a South Carolina town and the Army being sent in to crush the rebellion. This farcical vision is now part of the discussion in professional military circles.
At issue is an article in the respected Small Wars Journal titled “Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A ‘Vision’ of the Future.” It was written by retired Army Col. Kevin Benson of the Army’s University of Foreign Military and Cultural Studies at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., and Jennifer Weber, a Civil War expert at the University of Kansas. It posits an “extremist militia motivated by the goals of the ‘tea party’ movement” seizing control of Darlington, S.C., in 2016, “occupying City Hall, disbanding the city council and placing the mayor under house arrest.” The rebels set up checkpoints on Interstate 95 and Interstate 20 looking for illegal aliens. It’s a cartoonish and needlessly provocative scenario.
The article is a choppy patchwork of doctrinal jargon and liberal nightmare. The authors make a quasi-legal case for military action and then apply the Army’s Operating Concept 2016-2028 to the situation. They write bloodlessly that “once it is put into play, Americans will expect the military to execute without pause and as professionally as if it were acting overseas.” They claim that “the Army cannot disappoint the American people, especially in such a moment,” not pausing to consider that using such efficient, deadly force against U.S. citizens would create a monumental political backlash and severely erode government legitimacy.
If it were to happen anywhere, South Carolina would be the place.
Or maybe West Virginia or Tennessee.
Please let it be Texas, we can just give it back to Mexico with no significant loss.
Tejas is already a territory of Mexico.
Before long, it will be voted in as a state.
I have often thought of moving to Mexico, now Mexico will be moving to me.
Una mas cerveza, por favor, senorita!
Brother Paul has the same idea
http://tinyurl.com/ygfrhqz
Nice riffs.
Well, S Carolina already has the conferderate flag so there’s a cost savings right there
The problem with seizing (and holding) anything tangible is defense. In the face of superior weapons, manpower and tactics, a small group is likely to be expelled quickly.
If the intent is to become martyrs for the cause, then one must weigh the positive impact of the statement against the negatives of collateral damage and loss of innocent life. Imagine your own home town and a band of kooks wandering in and declaring it is theirs. Suppress the internal dissent. Maintain a perimeter. Ulgh. Too many complications.
So the Syrian army is triumphant? The problem in cities is that you have to go building to building clearing _all_ the insurgents. The fighting is at point blank ranges and explosives don’t play favorites. Taking a neighborhood often means converting it to rubble.
By the way does anyone remember how many years we’ve been defeating the Taliban and we got three soldiers killed by an Afghan Army recruit this week.
One major issues is that if you declare war on your own people the army may decide you need to go.
On the other hand I have a very clear memory of the big cities burning during the 60s. “Burn baby Burn” was the slogan of many and the Weathermen were out committing robberies and murders. Most of the burning occurred right where you’d expect it to occur. Some of the same people lent support to the OWS movement.
I don’t think any of them lent any support to the Tea Party crowd. The Tea Party crowd doesn’t do drugs. Rarely if ever gets drunk, believes in an honest days work for an honest days pay, and wants to build a better tomorrow for their kids and grand kids by dent of hard work. Few if any are old hippies.
Howsomerer if you mess up America enough I suspect that both groups have plenty of people that would be tempted to remove their elected officials from office. You just have to push the Tea Party crowd a lot harder before the nuts start coming out of the woodwork.
I welcome the chance to show my shotgun skills against the tea party….
Sadly we have “experts” who could suppose this: “extremist militia motivated by the goals of the ‘tea party’ movement”
To the “experts”: name ONE violent conflict caused by the Tea Party. Not other Right movements, Tea Party… There is NONE.
There are bad people and extremists on both sides. If assumption was “Right Wing Neo-Nazi group” or “Left Occupy WS group” – yes, plausible. Both types have caused numerous violent clashes with Law and people with damage, injury, crime, … But “expert” who picks one grassroots organization with perfect civil record as “violent” because of political bias is a GigaBS.
In more general sense: revolutions are pushed by collectivists of Left and Right. Neo-Communists and Neo-Nazis. Tea Party represents people who do not want collectivism. Who do not want revolution(s) but strict maintenance of existing Law and order. Very hard to explain to ideologically spinned crowd.
“name ONE violent conflict caused by the Tea Party. Not other Right movements, Tea Party… There is NONE.”
Yet.
The assassination attempt of an elected member of Congress but I agree it’s been pretty slow since.
There ya go again spreading misinformation, again. Do you believe your own lies like Nancy Pelosi? Does this tell you anything?
Once again Dal-ass, your country faces serious issues and your immature pontifications-without-a-clue ramblings serve no useful purpose.
That I have to, now repeatably, lecture you about why your bullshit lies carry zero weight in any serious discussion on actually solving important issues should enlighten you that you need psychiatric help.
Just in case you truly are an idiot and not just playing one for shits, giggles and sheep blue ribbons I will remind you what a great man once said ….
Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
Albert Einstein
Don’t worry Dal-ass I won’t lecturer you again (I don’t expect any different result – ever), like a two year old you will be ignored or chuckled at in a kindly way because you are incapable of any truthful dialog.
Giving people pet names, swearing, and put-downs seriously take away from what little argument you might have had. Mindless, emotional drivel. If you want people to listen, learn how to make an effective argument.
Cilisi, apparently you are unaware of Dal-ass tactics. I talk to him on a tit-for-tat basis because that is all he understands. He is the tit to my tat in case you have difficulty figuring out what I am saying.
When dealing with adult 2 year olds it is beneficial to speak to them in their own language at times.
Btw, I don’t need people to listen to my argument in order for it to be effective. I directed it at him, he will read it and the sound of /whoosh will be heard about two feet behind his head. Those listening for the /whoosh will get it, those offended by tit-for-tat won’t. Deal.
Take your condescending bullshit elsewhere until you understand the total issue.
The dude was crazy but he wasn’t interested in politics in any rational way. He didn’t vote. He was not a member of a political party.
You don’t respect the truth or you are hopelessly ill informed.
Political partisans claiming the other side doesn’t respect the truth?
….. tell me it ain’t so?
If you identify yourself “strongly” with either//any party you have accepted many of their lies as your own truth. THINK about that.
And Dallas–if indeed you are thinking of that Arizona Nut Case, you do yourself an injustice to apply party politics to such occurrences. Its why he is a nutcase. If he had been a TeaBagger, he would have been blaming Obama.
Silly Hoomans…..”You can’t handle the truth….. etc.”
Bobbo, you’re so easily fooled.
A nuttcase gunman neither needs to be nor needs to admit to being part of a conspiracy.
All the Teabagger leadership needs to do is put a bullseye on something or someone and surely a nutt will step forward.
I’m disappointed in you
And there you go again, just making bullshit up because you can. Justify your ignorance with the facts pal, not propaganda. The Joseph Goebbels style of your pronouncements really gets old, and you’re not fooling anyone.
They only thing the military would have to do is cut off the road, seal off the water pipes and plow through the power cables.
It would take mere days, at most weeks, before you’d get a delegation from the independent free town coming up to discuss surrender terms.
A city is an indefensible position. Every war ever fought since we started cultivating crops has been about finding new and faster ways to prove that.
The Germans found Stalingrad and Moscow to be highly defensible.
bring it, I’ll clear out the vipers from inside the city with joy!
That’s because they weren’t patient, also they didn’t care if the city was reduced to a pile of rubble; it wasn’t theirs.
I’m sure that if they had taken the time, Stalingrad would have fallen without a single armed forces casualty. Of course the German were waging a war on two fronts so they didn’t feel like waiting. They should have waited…
The situation would be very different if the Teapublicunts were to try a secessionist move in North Carolina or Virginia.
You can take your time then. Nobody’s going to attack you in Washington with cannon and guns.
You can set off some explosives over the cables and pipes, cut off some roads, take your time and wait, and wait, and wait, and let fatigue run its course in the opposition camp.
“cut off the road, seal off the water pipes and plow through the power cables”
Sounds like another public works project in my town…
Wouldn’t you just isolate them, ship in lots of drink/drugs and some TV cameras – and broadcast the result?
Just like the New Jersey revolt of 2010?
That wasn’t a revolt… That was just the bars staying open later than usual. 🙂
>> Wouldn’t you just isolate them, ship in lots of drink/drugs and some TV cameras – and broadcast the result?<<
This is already being done.. it is called reality tv… you know the one… called big brother..
now the bankers, and ceo's of failing/flailing tax payer-dollar sucking corporations of america really need to be worried. they will prolly be first to re-enact the starring roles of the hugarian revolution…
Teabaggers are a clear & present danger to the national security of the United States of America. They must be detained and concentrated in certain holding areas for an indefinite period of time until the threat passes. Harsh interrogation and summary justice shall be administrated by the first private in the chain of command.
If they did that they’d have to round you guys up and put you to work doing something productive and even so a lot of you would starve to death.
We had hoped that the TSA was the intention to do that with the entire country.
I’m shocked that no one has mentioned the Posse Comitatus Act. We could then argue about whether or not it would apply.
Apparently, the Posse Comitatus Act only applies to law enforcement. Text and a link from Wikipedia: The support that USNORTHCOM (United States Northern Command) provides to civil authorities is legally limited by the Posse Comitatus Act, which sets some limits on the role of the U.S. military in civilian law enforcement. However, in case of national emergency, natural or man-made, its Air Forces Northern National Security Emergency Preparedness Directorate will take charge of the situation or event.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Northern_Command
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Forces_Northern_National_Security_Emergency_Preparedness_Directorate
The Teaparty crowd never succeed from the US. How would they get their social security checks?
What a bunch of fucking IDIOTS!
Tea “baggers”? Really?!
Has it come to a point where the arguments have degraded to grade school verbal “cut downs”? Has it degraded to a point where the more witty your slogan is that it somehow makes you or your position seem smarter? It’s almost like you brainless twits haven’t heard the words “dumb-dem-asses” or “rude-publicans.” Else you might not be one.
What’s so funny is that most of the comments I’ve read here are in absolute support of what the Tea “Party” stands for. And yet, you think that by calling them “baggers” that it somehow makes you seem smart and makes them seem stupid or gay or something. But then, most of you agree with them! I don’t know whether to laugh at the stupidity or cry at the fact that some of you will be blindly voting.
Rather than buying into some slogan, or “believing” in something cause you’re too lazy to get off your fat ass, maybe you might like to check out the FACTS!
I don’t consider myself to be a TEA (Taxed Enough Already) party member. But given the choices from any of the other (2) political alternatives I do seem to find myself siding with the Tea party more often than anyone else. And from what I’ve seen, most of you do too!
TJ you must be REALLY new here.
To the question: “So how many think this might actually happen vs those who think Americans are too apathetic to riot over anything but the wrong contestant winning American Idol?” //// Its not even “fanciful” to imagine this happening. Most local even city sized police departments with their swat teams and armored vehicles are capable of taking down a sizeable rabble. Then the State Militias/Guard. Its looney tunes. If you’ve got the smarts/interest in organizing a takeover you would know the most effective thing to do is to simply take over the political mechanism of the town====very much like Walker has done to the State of Wisconsin and then declare “emergency power” and disempower the local elected officials of every sort….
YOU KNOW….. in this context the notion of floating an armed taking over does a lot to paper over the civil approach that has already taken place?
Well done stooges everywhere.
Weren’t you predicting people being rounded up into FEMA camps not too long ago?
Sounds like the makings of a “Left Behind” series for left progressives. The divine state must crush the heretical rebels, blah blah blah.
Let’s be honest here. Rightwingers are wusses, so a scenario like this will never ever happen. Sure we see lots of “preppers” out there on youtube, but frankly these bald fat married guys with goatees will not be able to form any sort of rebel fighting force.
Liberals and leftists have been the only people willing to take any risks, and they’re the only ones willing to stand up to the government.
Rightwingers are just a bunch of English TORIES who happily pay their tea taxes as long as the slaves stay out of their stuff.
I wonder how the scenario goes with anything that the United States Northern Command simulates.
I just have one question: At what point would you fight back? What would be your final straw that would motivate you to actually fight back? Or would you ever fight?
The reason can be whatever you want it to be, but I just wonder what people’s breaking point is?
What a provocative question!
What would be your point of desperation Derek?
YOU KNOW….. do first what you request of others?
Lead by example?
I hope this discussion does not break out into a Civil War.
I suppose it would depend on what I am fighting back against.
If a wacko militia group of some kind were taking over City Hall and arresting duly elected officials I would expect local law enforcement to deal with it.
Don’t forget we are talking about a cartoonish and needlessly provocative scenario.
No doubt there are the militia types that have rehearsed some kind of similar scenario, but then they also watch football and listen to Alex Jones on Coast To Coast AM while downing a few beers after the prayer meeting.
The government is never going to do something so blatent that it would start a revolt. The government works in tiny “justified” steps. What I am wondering is with each tiny little freedom taken away, at what point would be enough for you? What tiny removed freedom being taken away would push you over the edge?
This can be a liberal or conservative issue. I’m just wondering where people draw the line.
At home, fellow citizens, you best know whether we have done well or ill. The suppression of unnecessary offices, of useless establishments and expenses, enabled us to discontinue our internal taxes. These covering our land with officers, and opening our doors to their intrusions, had already begun that process of domiciliary vexation which, once entered, is scarcely to be restrained from reaching successively every article of produce and property.
The privilege of giving or withholding moneys is an important barrier against the undue exertion of prerogative which if left altogether without control may be exercised to our great oppression; and all history shows how efficacious its intercession for redress of grievances and reestablishment of rights, and how improvident would be the surrender of so powerful a mediator.
An elective despotism was not the government we fought for, but one which should not only be founded on true free principles, but in which the powers of government should be so divided and balanced among general bodies of magistracy, as that no one could transcend their legal limits without being effectually checked and restrained by the others.
The mobs of the great cities add just so much to the support of pure government as sores do to the strength of the human body. It is the manners and spirit of a people which preserve a republic in vigor. A degeneracy in these is a canker which soon eats to the heart of its laws and constitution.
The constitutions of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property and freedom of the press.
An individual, thinking himself injured, makes more noise than a State.
I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries as long as they are chiefly agricultural; and this will be as long as there shall be vacant lands in any part of America. When they get piled upon one another in large cities as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe.
The care of human life and happiness and not their destruction is the first and only legitimate object of good government.
The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and inalienable rights; that among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed;
Reason and free inquiry are the only effective agents against error. Give a loose to them, they will support the true religion by bringing every false one to their tribunal, to the test of their investigation. They are the natural enemies of error and error only. Had not the Roman government permitted free inquiry, Christianity could never have been introduced. Had not free inquiry been indulged at the era of the Reformation, the corruption of Christianity could not have been purged away.
The truth is that the greatest enemies to the doctrines of Jesus are those calling themselves the expositors of them, who have perverted them for the structure of a system of fancy absolutely incomprehensible, and without any foundation in his genuine words. And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this the most venerated reformer of human errors.
When the representative body have lost the confidence of their constituents, when they have notoriously made sale of their most valuable rights, when they have assumed to themselves powers which the people never put into their hands, then indeed their continuing in office becomes dangerous to the State, and calls for an exercise of the power of dissolution.
If any state in the Union will declare that it prefers separation… to a continuance in union… I have no hesitation in saying, ‘let us separate.’
Bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression.
Nature intended me for the tranquil pursuits of science, by rendering them my supreme delight. But the enormities of the times in which I have lived have forced me to commit myself on the boisterous ocean of political passions.
— Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
We made a great mistake in the beginning of our struggle, and I fear, in spite of all we can do, it will prove to be a fatal mistake. We appointed all our worst generals to command our armies, and all our best generals to edit the newspapers.
It is well that war is so terrible — we should grow too fond of it.
With all my devotion to the Union and the feeling of loyalty and duty of an American citizen, I have not been able to make up my mind to raise my hand against my relatives, my children, my home. I have therefore resigned my commission in the Army, and save in defense of my native State, with the sincere hope that my poor services may never be needed, I hope I may never be called on to draw my sword.
Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people designed to make of their victory, there would have been no surrender at Appomattox Courthouse; no sir, not by me. Had I foreseen these results of subjugation, I would have preferred to die at Appomattox with my brave men, my sword in my right hand.
I have been up to see Congress and they do not seem to be able to do anything except to eat peanuts and chew tobacco, while my army is starving.
You must study to be frank with the world: frankness is the child of honesty and courage. Say just what you mean to do on every occasion, and take it for granted that you mean to do right.
— Robert E. Lee (1807-1870) General-in-Chief of the Confederate States army
If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon’s but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.
I have never advocated war except as a means of peace.
— Ulysses S. Grant (1822-1885) 18th US President
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.
It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues.
Military glory — the attractive rainbow that rises in showers of blood.
The people are the masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who would pervert it!
Let the Constitution be taught in schools, seminaries and in colleges; let it be written in primers, in spelling books and in almanacs; let it be preached from the pulpit, proclaimed in legislative halls, enforced in courts of justice. In short, let it become the political religion of the nation.
This is a world of compensations; and he who would be no slave must consent to have no slave. Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves.
To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.
I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war.
The government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the government and the buying power of consumers. The privilege of creating and issuing money is not only the supreme prerogative of government, but it is the government’s greatest creative opportunity. The financing of all public enterprise, and the conduct of the treasury will become matters of practical administration. Money will cease to be master and will then become servant of humanity.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep’s throat, for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator, while the wolf denounces him for the same act as the destroyer of liberty.
Public sentiment is everything. With public sentiment nothing can fail. Without it nothing can succeed. He who molds opinion is greater than he who enacts laws.
The Bible is not my Book and Christianity is not my religion. I could never give assent to the long complicated statements of Christian dogma.
As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master. This expresses my idea of democracy.
Ballots are the rightful, and peaceful, successors of bullets; and that when ballots have fairly, and constitutionally, decided, there can be no successful appeal, back to bullets; that there can be no successful appeal, except to ballots themselves, at succeeding elections.
A majority held in restraint by constitutional checks and limitations, and always changing easily with deliberate changes of popular opinions and sentiments, is the only true sovereign of a free people. Whoever rejects it does of necessity fly to anarchy or to despotism.
Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation we began by declaring that “all men are created equal.” When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read “all men are created equal, except Negroes and foreigners and Catholics.” When it comes to this, I shall prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty — to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy hypocrisy.
If the policy of the government upon vital questions, affecting the whole people, is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court, the instant they are made, in ordinary litigation between parties, in personal actions, the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned their government into the hands of that eminent tribunal.
I have never had a feeling, politically, that did not spring from … the Declaration of Independence … that all should have an equal chance. This is the sentiment embodied in the Declaration of Independence … I would rather be assassinated on this spot than surrender it.
— Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President
A morsel of genuine history is a thing so rare as to be always valuable.
Honor, justice, and humanity, forbid us tamely to surrender that freedom which we received from our gallant ancestors, and which our innocent posterity have a right to receive from us.
If there be any among us who would wish to dissolve this Union or to change its republican form, let them stand undisturbed as monuments of the safety with which error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.
The mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace of God.
Experience has already shown that the impeachment the Constitution has provided is not even a scarecrow.
The several states composing the United States of America are not united on the principle of unlimited submission to their general government; but by a compact under the style and title of a Constitution for the United States, and of amendments thereto, they constituted a general government for special purposes and delegated to that government certain definite powers and whensoever the general government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force. To this compact each state acceded as a state, and is an integral party, its co-states forming, as to itself, the other party. The government created by this compact was not made the exclusive or final judge of the extent of the powers delegated to itself, since that would have made its discretion, and not the Constitution the measure of its powers.
I do verily believe that if the principle were to prevail of a common law being in force in the United States (which principle possesses the general government at once of all the powers of the state governments, and reduces us to a single consolidated government), it would become the most corrupt government on the earth.
I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion.
I know it will give great offence to the New England clergy, but the advocate of religious freedom is to expect neither peace nor forgiveness from them.
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is easier to acquire wealth and power by this combination than by deserving them, and to effect this, they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man into mystery and jargon, unintelligible to all mankind, and therefore the safer for their purposes.
Our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry.
If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.
The happiness and prosperity of our citizens is the only legitimate object of government.
I hope we shall take warning from the example of England and crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our Government to trial, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
It is part of the American character to consider nothing as desperate.
— Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
Liberty, according to my metaphysics, is an intellectual quality, an attribute that belongs not to fate nor chance. Neither possesses it, neither is capable of it. There is nothing moral or immoral in the idea of it. The definition of it is a self-determining power in an intellectual agent. It implies thought and choice and power; it can elect between objects, indifferent in point of morality, neither morally good nor morally evil.
When people talk of the freedom of writing, speaking, or thinking, I cannot choose but laugh. No such thing ever existed. No such thing now exists; but I hope it will exist. But it must be hundreds of years after you and I shall write and speak no more.
— John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President
Date: 1818 Source: letter to Thomas Jefferson
Yep, Orchi you pretty well Hitlered this thread. I thought you had gotten it out of your system? Well, rehab is nothing but failing until you succeed.
Each quote is well and good, in its place and time: context. Certainly proof though that less is more?
Take each idea presented and boil it down? I’ll summarize them all for you, but you may want to be more tailored in your own utilization:
RICH = CRIMINAL. Like Jefferson owning slaves….. it was the money that made him evil.
Pot meet kettle.
What a silly declaration: RICH = CRIMINAL
How rich is rich? How criminal is criminal?
WHITE = BLACK … if both can contain a little gray.
It ‘s an analog world.
Its a stumble, but still a step.
Just keep walking.
Actually it was calling upon Bobbos tendency to hijack threads pointing out orchidcup for doing same. I guess you must be knew here.
Define Hijacking?
Would it include turning a substantive thread on point to one of little girls discussing who they like and don’t like?
Ha, ha.
The nature of the encroachment upon American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer; it eats faster and faster every hour. The revenue creates pensioners, and the pensioners urge for more revenue. The people grow less steady, spirited and virtuous, the seekers more numerous and more corrupt, and every day increases the circles of their dependents and expectants, until virtue, integrity, public spirit, simplicity and frugality become the objects of ridicule and scorn, and vanity, luxury, foppery, selfishness, meanness, and downright venality swallow up the whole of society.
The poor people, it is true, have been much less successful than the great. They have seldom found either leisure or opportunity to form a union and exert their strength; ignorant as they were of arts and letters, they have seldom been able to frame and support a regular opposition. This, however, has been known by the great to be the temper of mankind; and they have accordingly labored, in all ages, to wrest from the populace, as they are contemptuously called, the knowledge of their rights and wrongs, and the power to assert the former or redress the latter. I say RIGHTS, for such they have, undoubtedly, antecedent to all earthly government, Rights, that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws, Rights, derived from the great Legislator of the universe.
The jaws of power are always open to devour, and her arm is always stretched out, if possible, to destroy the freedom of thinking, speaking, and writing.
— John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President
And Orchidcup has jumped the Bobbo.
Ha, ha. Good one.
NO. Critical distinction when jumping the shark, it must be of the same “thing” or it is something else. Pot and Kettle may be close enough but Pot does not meet playdough. doesn’t fit.
My Shark: my own personal recognitions to life’s major conflicts as are relevantly posted here for comment and engagement. Repetitive themes because the OP’s are repetitive. I too urge a wider ocean. Posting to the same few points that I find controlling/key/trump to the ACTION that should be taken even if it is only quiet recognition within ones own limited cerebellum if not amygdala does wear thin from time to time so I play with the language. As demonstrated here, usually within my own private humor.
Orchi: unconnected copy and paste with no real engagement/connection/resolution of the issues presented. If you will Pot meets Not Pot. Isn’t that a fine kettle?
Goatse!
Nope it’s just the two of you blathering like idiots. I would add alfie but that would be elevating him to an undeserved status.
Well, at least you are maintain your own core beliefs.
Lowest of the low: religious retards, bigots, and imbeciles proselytizing as hypocritically as they can.
Penultimately Lowest: gibbering liberal buffoons looking out for everyone’s best interests.
Ha, ha. Silly Hooman.
I will head back home to Georgia and fight those yankee bastards. I cant stand the government anyway so any excuse is a good one.
But in a real sense, not totally, but still real, the government is YOU. Such silly self destructive behavior is ineffective, understandable, but still ineffective. Poor stupid dumb redneck white trash still wanting to fight other white men to keep black men in slavery having none of their own?
The South may rise again, but how tall can you stack BS?
Much more likely though a southern town would be taken over by such atavistic retarded racists religious elements than the fine over taxed people of the Teadud Party. Both wrong, but the latter can be nudged in the right direction.
Silly Southerners.
What the F__K are you talking about? Yeah Im white from the south and maybe even a bit of hillbilly in me. Where the hell did the black white s__t come from? I for one am talking about runaway government. The nanny state. I dont like being told what to do. Wether it be government, religion or Ahole know it alls on blogs. And just so you know I dont go to church and my girlfriend is black D__kHead.
Ah_NOOoo.. becoming almost lyrical says:
8/12/2012 at 9:39 am
Airlift food? The conservatives will own the breadbasket of the world and will use it to their advantage. /// What is this breadbasket? Those who grow or some stage of the distribution system? But you think they are all of one mind and will operate monopolistically huh? Possible, but it would be the first time in History. More like a fairytale? People acting all in concert as if only one idea was valid? Or childish?==not knowing there are other ideas than the one personally held?
And why not? Liberals love killing millions of babies in the world’s largest eugenics program and call it “choice”. /// wtf? Who is acting here? Cons or Libs? Now really Ah_NOO00…!!! you really are spinning off your nut here. Down right stupid in an Alfie kind of way. Everything good is Conservative, Everything Bad is Liberdrool==even as you claim they act the same way. Simply …… retarded. As to eugenics–ponder me this AH_NOO000==if people individually choose to eat Big Macs, is there a “world program” forcing them to do so? In the way that you mean? YOU KNOW—the retarded way you mean?
They adore entitlement programs to enslave a huge part of the population and call it ‘reparations”. /// I’m not aware of any reparations programs. The subject in respect to legatees of the slave trade is talked about from time to time but nothing has been agreed to…….. except evidently in your fantasy world. In the real world, support is give to slave and slave holder legatees without discrimination and its called the social safety net for the benefit of all. Are you thinking ((HAW_HAW===I said AH_NOO00…. was thinking!!!)) of anything else?
So why not let them go hungry till they revolt WITHIN THEMSELVES. /// Revolt within themselves? Must be your form of internal humor. Pot meet shark.
You see, conservatives won’t revolt against themselves, but you watch what happens when the liberal state’s welfare runs out. /// I would think the liberals would revolt against the RICH? What a defective mathematics/language you use AH_NOO00…. It simply is disjointed, has no connection to the real world, makes no sense, and is retarded.
And yet you continue to post. amusing when the subject is tangentially: revolting.
Reply/// Yes, please do. Prove me wrong.
Civil unrest in 2016? Try 2012. Why no autopsy results for Rodney King after all this time? You thought it was bad when he was ‘just’ beat? Got a bad feeling about this. I’m headed for my secret bunker!
I haven’t revoked my Canadian citizenship, and I’m certainly seeing no reason to do so.
I think that I’m going to go and spend my retirement years in Canada. I’ll sell my real-estate in the ‘States before I’m 65 and head to the Outaouais.
The situation here in the ‘States is making less and less sense by the week.
The first amendment isn’t going to be worth the paper its written on anyway.
‘Sides the world is warming up and drying out a lot faster than the climate deniers would have you believe. 🙂