This type of manipulative reporting is just disgusting. It’s amazing that we have to rely on a Comedy show to hear some semblance of thruthiness. BTW, apparently Bachmann won her votes the old fashioned way, she PAID for them. Douchebags, all.
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#21 – Why? Why does society owe a saftey net to people who may not have ever contributed back to that same society in any way whatsoever? Also, you’re making a mistake by equating society to gov’t action.
I think it was Humphrey who said ” A society is judged by how it treats it weakest members.” He was right but the underlying implication makes the same mistake you are making.
A society is judged by the uncoerced, freely offered actions of individual members – NOT by the coerced actions forced unpon individuals by the government.
Government is not society and should not be in the charity business.
I aslso advocate a balanced budget, but the Gov’t needs to scale back to achieve that balance.
#33–Amabo==more honest posting? Ha, ha==must be getting near the core. Let’s parse:
#21 – Why? Why does society owe a saftey net to people who may not have ever contributed back to that same society in any way whatsoever? /// It’s not about “owing” its about being PRAGMATIC: what works. You want the Next Albert Einstein to go uneducated because he is born into a poor family? I don’t. Society advances when we all get the best education we can benefit from.
Also, you’re making a mistake by equating society to gov’t action. // No, its two different interactive factors.
I think it was Humphrey who said ” A society is judged by how it treats it weakest members.” /// Its only one of many measurements.
He was right but the underlying implication makes the same mistake you are making.
A society is judged by the uncoerced, freely offered actions of individual members – NOT by the coerced actions forced unpon individuals by the government. /// As above, societies are measured on many variables not just ONE AS SIMPLE MINDED DOGMATIC HEAD UP THEIR ASSES LIEBERTARDS WOULD HAVE EVERYONE BELIEVE.
Government is not society and should not be in the charity business. /// Fine. Call it investment then. Silly label hanger.
I aslso advocate a balanced budget, but the Gov’t needs to scale back to achieve that balance. //// BWHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!! Just as society has many, Many, MANY variable and you simplistically want to narrow the choices down to ONE, you do the same with budget analysis. IT HAS two, Two, TWO VARIABLES: expenses and revenue. Simple Minded BS LIEberTARDianism to reduce the analysis to one.
There are budget models showing a robust social safety net and balanced budgets==yes, the tax level is above the lowest its ever been in 60 years. Imagine that.
simple minded dumbshit liebertards. Their logic and fact errors are easy to show once they argue outside the simple repetitious use of DOGMATIC LABELS.
VOTE ALL “NO NEW TAXES” POLITICIANS OUT OF OFFICE. Same with any liebertarian who may recognize the need for compromise on this one issue. He will be just totally stupid on soooo many other issues. Better safe than sorry.
Ha, ha. Stoopid Hoomans.
#4 chuck “Set a maximum tax deduction of $20 per person, per year for political donations.”
Current law states that NO political contributions are tax deductible.
Bobbo –”the social safety net is FOR EVERYBODY and paid for BY EVERYBODY.”
So illegal aliens who benefit heavily from the safety net pay into it? Really, just how does that work.
I can think of other groups….you are dismissed.
whiney==you think playing the illegal aliens card trumps all heh? What hate group were you raised in?
Sadly my friends, even illegal aliens and their access to social safety net services is not subject to ONE SIMPLE RULE FOR SIMPLE MINDED DOGMATIC IDIOTS. No, as always its an interactive conglomerate of copeting interests.
To begin with, illegals should be deported when identified. Employers should be fined when found to employ illegals. Those two programs, if not just the second one would within a few years get most/many illegals moving back home on their own initative. No simple minded wailing about there are too many of them. Also required: reasonable and realistic work visa program so that our crops get picked. Everyone should get access to emergency health care. Babies born to illegals should not be USA citizens–no court has ruled on that issue and the language of the Amendment is vague enough to be a court case. Even if made USA citizens: deport their parents giving them the choice of taking their kiddie or having the kiddie raised in an orphanage for crop pickers.
I said what benefits our society: not humanity. I draw lines. Every line is unfair. don’t like it? Go home and revolt.
Like any other issue, illegal aliens is not a difficult issue to deal with unless your dogma bites you in the ass===as it always does. See—dog is right in the name. Dogs have teeth, they bite.
Silly Hoomans.
#21 “I will support just about any system that provides a social safety net (food, clothing, shelter, medical care, education, jobs)…”
You forgot the iPad. You really should move to Norway. It’s that type of thinking that developed the “projects” and we know how well they worked out. Lets not forget the housing bubble caused by Dims trying to give a home loan for a McMansion to every idiot that would vote for them. We might as well have the WPA or CCC back.
Which of these social programs today are solvent, well run, and a success?
Freedom my ass. You are trying to put (working) people in a financial straitjacket.
EVERYbody buys votes in Ames. Why pick on Bachmann?
The Ames Straw Poll:
-You do not need to be a Republican to vote.
-You do not have to be of legal voting age to vote.
-If you’re a student, you can vote no matter where you are registered.
-It costs you $30 to cast your absolutely useless vote.
The candidates are not really buying votes, they are paying the “polling fee” for their supporters.
We wonder why in America we have such idiots in high offices of Government. Look in the mirror folks! Look at mainstream news reporting on TV. Why do people vote the way they do? Does anybody else think mainstream media has some influence?
#38–Nextlie==Abo didn’t say that, I did. but let’s parse your equally idiotic response:
#21 “I will support just about any system that provides a social safety net (food, clothing, shelter, medical care, education, jobs)…”
You forgot the iPad. You really should move to Norway. It’s that type of thinking that developed the “projects” and we know how well they worked out. /// OR–we could learn that “the projects” is NOT THE WAY TO DO IT and try something else. You know—learning based on experience. Its called THINKING. Something label hanging dogmatic liebertards are loath to do.
Lets not forget the housing bubble caused by Dims trying to give a home loan for a McMansion to every idiot that would vote for them. /// If that was all that happened, it would have been a bump, not the catastrophe we are experiencing now. Not even good spin. Who does that shit sell to?
We might as well have the WPA or CCC back. /// Agreed. Good alternative to the military or Peace Corp. Bravo. One bright idea==doesn’t even matter you don’t support it. Ha, ha. I did say it was a good idea.
Which of these social programs today are solvent, well run, and a success? /// Gee, thats 3 criteria. What alternatives do you have that match them? To that end, and its all definitional Soc Sec and MediCare are successes and well run and solvent again all by definition. What in Amerca is “well run” by your lights?
Freedom my ass. You are trying to put (working) people in a financial straitjacket. /// Yes I am by making tax paying SLAVES out of Billionaires. Which would you rather be?
Dope.
Oops. Animby===because she “won.”
#43. So you will vote for idiots…well that’s nice.
#43–Easy Ed==I commiserate. Sad when all we have to vote for is mostly idiots, but I agree at least the dims aren’t mostly idiots AND anti-American out to destroy the Middle class.
Warren Buffet anyone?
Ha, ha.
Rick Perry is having trouble swallowing this story.
Maybe it is time for Benjamin to get on the Ron Paul Peace Train. The guy really makes sense. Those in power are so afraid of him, they have to treat him like the 13th floor of a hotel. (Jon Stewart’s words, not mine.)
McCotter and Herman Cain make sense too.
# 42 bobbo, “because she “won.” ”
Point to Bobbo.
It’s hard to understand why anybody gets excited about the Ames straw poll.
Not only is it “non-binding” but it’s greatest success is picking the loser of the later caucuses. The winner of the poll almost always loses the caucus.
Animby–did anyone get excited? I thought it was amusing the way many pieces were prepped to show how unrepresentative the straw poll was and how it does pick non-winners and then they go ahead and report on it anyway.
Slow news day?
But I admit I was shocked by the Ron Paul news blackout. There are dark powers arraigned against him, and by that I mean Faux Spews, and by that I mean Rupert Murdock. I thought that stupid bastard had other closer things to worry about? Must be earlier memo’s, even those from two years ago still circulating around.
I’ve heard some reporting that most of Ron Paul’s positions have been adopted by the Republican powers that be but he should still get fair coverage even if he is going to lose? Why not–Backman does. Ha, ha.
Yes, the whole process is not just meaningless political theater, its meaningless political theater IN YOUR FACE STUPID ELECTORATE. Same with everything the Pukes do.
After the name calling, the vitriol, hyperbole, and pontificating==I really don’t know how the Pukes score more than a 15% vote from the public.
As a group, we really are just this stupid.
IN YOUR FACE!!!!!
Ha, ha.
It’s a sad state of affairs in the US. Oh Ya, Happy birthday Elvis.
# 49 bobbo,”I really don’t know how the Pukes score more than a 15% vote from the public.”
Robby – did you know that you don’t even have to be Republican to vote in the Ames straw poll? So. it’s entirely possible that Bachmann may have paid $30 each to Democrat “agents” supporting her because they believe she’s the easiest candidate for O’Bama to beat.
Truly a strange event.
bobbo…the Fox “News” narrative more likely comes from Roger Ailes than Murdoch. Specifically, Grover Norquist and Ailes, together. For whatever reason, they don’t like Paul, maybe because they know they can’t control him, like they will control all the others. Looking from the outside, it seems clear they will pick the winner.
The Fox guy at the end of the Stewart piece gives up the game. Anyone who feels Fox is a legitimate news source, or that what they do is simple equivalent to “the liberal media” should (but won’t) see with this example that it’s all a big fat lie. Fox “News” is a sham, and here’s the proof.
I stand with Ben Franklin on tax policy.
#37 – Hot damn, you actually said something I agree with fully.
Except the society vs humanity part. The purpose of humanity is American society. If America is not preeminent and driving SUVs through urban sprawl, humanity’s existence is pointless.
#62–Nextlie==pompous jerk? Ha, ha. Should make it all that much more easy to knock me down a notch or two. As a blowhard, even three?
Goooooo!
#55–Amoeba==whats the deal with SUV’s? They are top heavy, slow accelerators, and can’t take curves. Surely you should at least allow for overpowered sporty models. My next door neighbor had a Ferrari. On occasion I would go to work early enough to leave the same time he did. It was fun to race him light to light until the freeway on ramp. Beautiful car—his, not mine.
Or maybe a van. I love a car you can sleep in. Seems like home.
Its turtles all the way down.
#56 – Tahoe, Suburban, Avalanche, etc. Has to be able to through a foot of unplowed snow, or a little off road yet hold 4 adults plus a weeks worth of camping gear comfortably for 600-800 miles in one day to get somewhere cool. Trucks or SUVs. Some of the corssovers look interesting but they’re a little small.
Or the vehicle has to be big enough to haul a full size refrigerator or washer and dryer. In our case the washer conked out in an unrepairable way, the same day we drove 50 miles to the appliance store, loaded up a new one and I put it in that night.
Cars can be fune but are too small for a primary vehicle. They’re good for slot 3 in the garage.
I use “SUV” to distinguish from cars, however any privately owned vehicle beat any form of mass transit any day. Modern humans should have too much dignity to ride mass transit.
#28 “Prove me wrong.”
Anticipated and answered Read #27.
#33,
#21 – Why? Why does society owe a saftey net to people who may not have ever contributed back to that same society in any way whatsoever? Also, you’re making a mistake by equating society to gov’t action.
We the People, in order to make a more perfect society decided, that’s why. If you don’t want to be part of that society then fine, I hear Mexico has some very fine free market venues available. As does Somalia and Afghanistan.
Here in America, we voted for our representatives to enact these policies. Far and away, Americans support our social safety net AND higher taxes.
#44
#43. So you will vote for idiots…well that’s nice.
I would consider Ed’s position far better than voting for fucking idiotic, retarded, selfish, hypocritical, bible thumping, Jesus crying, Tea Bag loving, wife cheating other guys.
But your comment is nice too. Stupid, but nice.
#60, You’re shitting us, right?
If the 49.9% of the population that DIDN’T vote for it were to leave, where would you get your tax dollars? Only the top 50% pay anything.
You need us. Without us, your utopia is a pipe dream. We work to serve you, M(aste)r Fusion.
Master, why would you let a bunch of kids burn to death to save your wife? Isn’t your next door neighbor’s kid worth saving?
#62, You haven’t met either my neighbors or the little monster they hatched.
#63, Touche’