I find this woman to be very annoying. Look at her “screw you, I’m bored with you” body language. Who does this bored posture in a Congressional hearing? Now this idiotic claim.
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That is not just boredom, that is contempt.
When federal agencies like the EPA and the FCC decide they no longer need the congress to pass laws, because they can rule by fiat, answering questions from congress starts to seem like such a waste of time.
While her body language is bad enough what she is saying is even worse. There are no legit ties of contaminated water and autism.
Change you can believe in!
Yep, that’s what we called during interrogations the “I don’t give a fuck” contemptuous body language.
Ms. Jackson Imma let you finish, but first what the ever loving fuck are you talking about!!!! Contaminated water and autism??? Just what exactly is the contaminant involved, left over chicken pox vaccine?
I reserve a special level of contempt for Autism activists. It has to be someone’s fault!
Even their promotional language is hooey: Autism Speaks, and Autism Awareness. If they were aware and could speak there wouldn’t be an issue, would there?
WTF Contaminated water and Autism Just shows you don’t need to have a High IQ to work in government
So are you people opposed to clean water? I don’t care what it causes really, I know we should be drinking healthy H20 that is not contaminated.
Not certain of the details, but I have sat before a committee a few times for grilling and it can wear down anyone. The video clip is only a few seconds long, in my experience those meetings can go on much longer during that time you have a panel of people hammering with questions that are usually posed in a manner to forward their own agenda independent of any public good.
If she demonstrates any contempt or boredom, perhaps it is valid. I would love to see more of the dialog and know the context.
Yes, Deprogrammer9. All these people oppose clean water. Anyone who objects to the claim that contaminated water causes autism, obviously MUST be opposed to clean water.
If I oppose teachers’ unions, I must hate children, right?
If I don’t like mustard on hamburgers, I must hate hamburgers.
Hey, logic is EASY!
Well, how the hell do any of us know if contaminated water causes autism? It depends first on whether ANY environmental factor causes it (questionable, but possible) or if it is entirely genetic. Second, if not entirely genetic, what sort of “contaminate” is a cause, and, while we’re at it, is exposure to that contaminate limited to water.
About the only thing that I can for certain rule out as a cause for autism are common childhood vaccinations.
Now all that said,
What an ignorant, arrogant bitch!
How screwed up one has to be to hate people who are trying to protect ones living environment… and yes, she is bored and contemptuous, she is an engineer from Princton who has to convince some stupid politician (not to mention the ever so ignorant public) that polluted water, air, etc. is BAD for ya!
Much ado about nothing. Maybe she had a neck pain. Regardless, would rather everyone had to be on their knees when they met with congress? Aren’t their ego big enough already?
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So the way to convince these stupid politicians is to be contemptuous of them? She must be REALLY smart to advance her goals that way. It’s soooo hard to deal with the masses.
“…our science may be good…”
What a load of crock! I worked with EPA for 20 years and I never found a single example of “good science” by the agency.
In 1998, I had a converation with an official at EPA. We were discussing the development of a new EPA standard and how it would impact the company I worked for. EPA thought that explosive manufacturing was no different than manufacturing paint, so both processes would use the same control strategy.
I told him that it was an extremely bad idea to use a flare to control air emissions from an explosives manufacturing process. Vapors would carry trace amounts of explosive into the ductwork, slowly building a fuse that linked the buring flare to the explosives process. When the fuse was finished, boom … no more building and no more workers.
EPA’s response: Tough. We need to meet our schedule and fixing it would delay the standard for several months. They actually believed us when we told them the standard was unsafe, they just didn’t care.
It took two years, five letters — the last one from our lawyer to the head of EPA — and OSHA’s involvement before we could get EPA to make the standard safe for our process.
#13 look on the Missouri Department of Natural Resources Operator Certification training page. Take a look at the training offered for water and waste water operators, take a look at the names of the trainers. You will find my name. My job is to teach and train operators to protect the environment. I don’t give a damn about lisa jackson or her bullshit opinion. EPA is a government entity bent on its own political ends. They don’t necessarily entail protection of the environment, contrary to what most of the public thinks. She flat stated a link between autism and “contaminated” water. If this was even a remote correlation and EPA failed to notify the public, then every one involved should be tried for criminal negligence. There is no link and to even pass it off as an off the cuff remark shows a serious lack of judgment on her part. Next time you get the urge to spout off about drinking water thank a water operator and have a cup of STFU.
#18 The video was posted with a comment from JCD who is ridiculing “this woman” primarily for her tone and body language. Having been a reader of this blog for some time now, i can be almost certain that the actual reason is that she is part of the federal government.
I’m myself a graduate student in infection biology and fully aware that there has not been a definitive linkage proven (or disproven) between any environmental pollutants and ASD, but I guess she is being decidedly vague but suggestive about it. Although i do not condone lying for the “greater good” especially when scientific issue is involved, it remains the sad fact that the scare tactics work the best in the “home of the brave”… and with half of the congress being so ignorant as to believe in batshit ideas like creationism, making them believe polluted water can cause health problems to protect the public could hardly be a bad idea.
Kinda depends on the contaminants are. Water contaminated with lead has been linked to autism.
Yep. Lead pipes in installed all over the country daily.
Look at her placard. “Honorable?” Almost as bad as, “call me Senator!” Boxer.
Princeton.
19 There was no reason to lie. Health problems can and do occur from exposure to contaminated water. Why choose to use autism? Why not those that can and do still occur like dysentery, cholera, or typhus. People assume that these diseases have gone away, or that they only happen in third world countries. People in the US no longer suffer from these due to both drinking water and wastewater treatment. If those don’t work she could have used HAA5’s or THM’s which show a definite correlation to various forms of cancer. As someone who spent 20 years as an operator before I began teaching it seriously pisses me off that people have no concept of what it takes to deliver potable water to their home and take away and treat the waste they leave behind. Everybody already assumes that when you turn on the tap drinkable water will come out and that when you flush it just goes away. Idiotic bureaucrats like her don’t help.
20 please cite references. Exposure to lead has long been known to be linked with learning disabilities and reduced intelligence. That is why there are laws banning lead in drinking water service connections, and providing for restrictive limits when it does occur. It is also why public water supplies test for lead and copper. Although the symptoms of lead poisoning can mimic the appearance of autism they are two different syndromes. The problem with attempting to correlate exposure to lead with autism is that lead exposure levels have decreased due to more stringent regulations, while autism levels have supposedly increased during that same time frame.
#21 installation of new lead pipe or service is illegal. It is recommended that when found they be removed but is not required under the federal safe drinking water act.
“There are no legit ties of contaminated water and autism.”
Probably true, if for no other reason than the low solubility of lead in water. There are more problems with paint chips and small children.
However, the smug look on the administrator’s face waves red flags all over.
So, You have scientific evidence to the contrary? Please enlighten us!
Oh, that’s right! You don’t have a clue!
…and in a related note, saliva causes stomach cancer. But only when swallowed in very small doses over a very long period of time.
Her “Shut Up Slave” demeanor is telling.
Why is she “Honorable?” Judges and high elected officials are referred to as honorable but an appointed agency director? Apostle, maybe.
I think the EPA makes too many decisions on junk science then on long term factual studies. They look for reasons to justify their cause. When you look at the cost to cities to try and reduce or eliminate these contaminants. You have to ask yourself if putting that burden on a city has been justified through the use of scientific fact to prove that something needs to be done. Or is it just another step in the EPA trying to enforce their will on their belief.
27 Please explain which argument you would like further explanation on, or are you speaking as the north end of a south bound horse.