foobar says:

Wow. An albino hacker, one gay soldier, and an army of teenagers are bitch slapping security and news organizations around the world.

I wonder why FOX, CNN, and all the other MSM outlets hate them?

Aude says:

Conditioning is a hell of a thing

Rob says:

The host is unbelievable.

‘HIGH-TECH TERRORIST!’ haha.

I can’t believe the government official has the audacity to ask whether it’s a smear campaign against Julian Assange?!

Some No Agenda material if ever I’ve heard it.

rabidmonkey says:

Yes, we all know that (as Glenn Greenwald himself puts it on his column at Salon):
“It’s not news that establishment journalists identify with, are merged into, serve as spokespeople for, the political class: that’s what makes them establishment journalists.” . . . . “They don’t even bother any longer with the pretense that they’re distinct or play different assigned roles.”

The question is “what can we, or what are we willing to do about it?” Can we merely trust that internet technology will solve it because it’s the new wild-wooly west (despite how Governments want to police it)?

I think the P2P-DNS (Distributed DNS system) movement is the most hopeful thing going so far.

Peet says:

The host seems like a dingbat, calling Assange a revolutionary and criminal. In any case she sure read the talking points to rid the world of a unauthorized librarian.

BTW although the US has the ‘juiciest’ gossips wikified, they’re certainly not the only to have documents leaked. So there is no attack to the US, there’s just more to leak 😉

In a grander schema, it’s remarkable that there are few leaks from states in the axis of evil, or more from the European union.

bobbo, how do you know what you know and how do you change your mind says:

At first I thought the newsreader was a sketch from the Onion, or a skit from Sat Night Live. Greenwald nailed her to the wall, I’m sure she learned nothing from it. No learning, no dissonance at all.

What Brave New World are we entering when National Journalist don’t respect/understand “their” own first Amendment rights and responsibilities?

Sad when “news” achieves its highest relevancy by watching with the sound turned off. Although Greenwald did do an excellent job.

foobar says:

#7 I especially like how Palin and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad both lost their shit on Wikileaks on the same day.

Holdfast says:

Perhaps it is not that he has exposed a tiny fraction of the actions of the US government and its “allies”.

Perhaps the reason for all the fuss is that he may expose the activities of the unelected, unknown, uncaring and imoral who are really in control. Some of it might be as #7 says people like Murdoch who has bizzarely got some in the US believing he is liberal or even left wing. It could be those stories about the Bank of America HDD he has somewhere.

The scumbags are worried. Until Wikileaks, their biggest problems were getting people to ignore the truth. It was easy when it was scientists saying it. We have a culture of “ignorance is better than knowledge” in what used to be called the free world.
Don’t like it that doctors are proving that smoking gives you cancer? Make people think that doctors are stupid. The same goes for evidence that lead in petrol hurts the poorest, global warming, GM foods, evolution and so on. Discredit the messengers and your profits will continue.
It doesn’t always work though. I use unleaded petrol, don’t smoke and would never knowingly eat GM food (I’m British – I don’t have to). They delayed that knowledge, just like they have all the other things that affect their profits.

If they are exposed to everyone, they will not find it so easy. That is why Assange is under attack in the press and by politicians.

We need to know who those controllers are.

msbpodcast says:

Unfortunately, I am familiar with one aspect of the mentality of government officials.(I worked for some time with and for Canadian government officials, which explains why I am now living in the US.[The gummint critterz ain’t any better here, or in Beijing! {Don’t be deceived by location. People are people everywhere.}])

Quite apart from the “innocents” we elect every cycle, and watch them get corrupted by the greed of the system, followed by their own greed, there is a cadre of government officials who are in charge of the administration and execution of the business of governing a nation.

The first instinct of any government official is to stamp EVERYTHING and anything with an “official secrets” label. (Even trying to find out how much trash is hauled away from somewhere can be fraught with bureaucratic hurdles, and visits by one or more security and/or military forces.)

It makes them feel entitled. It plays into the mindset that they are special, even though they aren’t; they’re legion.

An organization like WikiLeaks is bound to threaten them, even when it only reveals how mundane and banal their work is.

The fact is that it is the banality of evil which saw German Reichstag clerks push paper around while people with guns were pushing around people without guns into ovens and open graves, after starving them and working them to death.

All permanent government workers, from the president’s or prime-minister’s staff to the “schlub” who cleans the toilets out on a rez somewhere, fear the fact that at sometime, they will ruin someone’s life or possibly cause irreparable harm.

I am looking forward to the day when someone in North Korea is ashamed enough of what they do to their citizens to use something like WikiLeaks. (Perhaps, someone will be forced to murder a relative in cold blood for a justification which he knows is patently false.)

It is the banality of evil which they fear and something like WikiLeaks WILL expose the children who turned the rice paddies into Pol Pot’s “killing fields.”

NOBODY wants to be shown that they are being stupid, short-sighted or useless.

bobbo, how do you know what you know and how do you change your mind says:

Speaking of food, safety, and sustainability, I found this to be simply fascinating from 5-6 different viewpoints:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/40494122/ns/us_news-environment/

Its about the BP Gulf oil spill and cancer causing pollutants not even being tested for WHILE our government plans to get rid of the sea food products by feeding them to our troops.

Ain’t America Great?

bobbo, how do you know what you know and how do you change your mind says:

Animby–well thanks, but I can be self serving and self righteous about anything, including myself. I simply am close minded about denying people their choice to have GMF.

“Maybe” you are confusing my “cautious” position about genetic engineering of the human genome with GMF? I think we WILL do it, because we can==thats the rule. But even as this thread demonstrates–the harm I see is unintended consequences to the reproducing/health of the offspring, not a concern about the edibility of the result. On that issue, as long as we can still eat the products of conception, yes, let’s try to have all our babies look just like Bradolina.

Designer Babies. Who’s got the patent?

Ha, ha.

ECA says:

CAN I suggest something?

THE USA can not make international LAW.
He is NOT a citizen..

THE USA GOV, should HAVE no power in what is happening to this person. BUT, our corps are chasing him..WHY?

bobbo, how do you know what you know and how do you change your mind says:

Animby–I thought you had caught me behind on the times. But gene replacement therapy is not the same thing as designer babies/GMF/creaing Bradolina’s. Close, but different enough not to be lumped into one pile/genome.

In an already overpopulated world, I see reason enough not to spend our resources on these activities, but I support FREEDOM and if that be the will of our bribed officials, then so be it. Ok in my book. If we are going to have kiddies, we really should give them the best start we can. Where would a dollar spent have a bigger bang? Gene Modification/Building/Design, or general prenatal care, or neonatal nutrition, or adolescent physical activities, a good general education….etc. Like everything else, money/resources are to be husbanded to its greatest return.

Course, all I know is less than whats here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_therapy

ramirezg says:

He’s not a hacker

ECA says:

#30..

NAILED IT..
now expect 4-30 US MARSHALS to knock on your door, in the next month.
NOT to arrest you..we just wont FIND you anywhere, AFTER they arrive.