A pilot from Skywest was going through security in Denver with his 18-year-old daughter and overheard a TSA officer saying into his headset, “heads up, got a cutie for you.”
So what would you rather do? Have a bouncer touch your privates, and your children’s privates through your clothes? Or have a bouncer see you naked on a TV screen?
Forget our civil liberties. Who is a greater threat to the airline industry: Terrorists, or the fools in charge of this sham security?
Read the whole article here. It’s quite amusing.
The account of the SkyWest pilot (second hand) is on this forum.
So if I understand this correctly (if this story is true) they had a male patting-down a female? According to the TSA’s own blog:
“Pat-downs are conducted by same gender officers”
http://blog.tsa.gov/2010/11/new-tsa-pat-down-procedures.html (posted on 11/11/10)
Blogger Bob, you’ve got some ‘splainin’ to do.
The TSA “Blog” is bullshit. There have been numerous people that have come forward of stories of male TSA mallcops feeling up little girls.
Kinda like Big Sis lying in an article in USA Today yesterday about how everyone loves the scanners and they are perfectly safe. She even went so far as to say the “enhanced” patdowns don’t exist, despite the fact that TSA put out a PR piece when they started them and the media tried to sell it as the best thing since sliced bread. But when the reports of sexual assaults came out, even from the same media that sold them, they claim they don’t exist.
No, surely not! Who would have thought!?
It’s time Americans stopped cracking those old jokes about the French and saying they’re cowardly because of WWII. The French cooperated with ruthless and deadly occupying force, and made the French Revolution. America is taking crap from its own staff.
“…TSA officer saying into his headset, “heads up, got a cutie for you.””
If true he should be fired on the spot.
The fearmongers are helping the terrorists win just so they can create the American police state.
Lou Minatti.
What do you mean, “if true …”
I assure you that this scenario has happened, is happening, and will continue to happen. These machines CAN store images, CAN transfer images, and with a little photoshop, basically become full color nude images of whomever has walked through the porn scanner.
It is possible to have a nude scan on the internet within seconds of you walking through it. This WILL happen.
Janet needs to stop instructing her employees to sexually assault (my opinion) the traveling public.
I remember a post on this site in support of the Xray machines, saying they were no big deal.
I, for one, welcome the added incentive that these screenings give me to exercise and diet more. Gotta look good for my TSA picture in a few days. I love America! USA! USA! Thank you for the free prostrate exam Sir.
As Dan Bern said: “Anyone who knows anyone who knows anyone who knows anyone who might be a terrorist, IS a terrorist.”
Lou Minatti said
If true he should be fired on the spot.
Government employee in a union
should be fired – maybe
would be fired – never
He didn’t say if a female or male staff member inspected the girl.
Ali Mohamed has an almost unbelievable resume: Major in the Egyptian Army Special Forces, then Sergeant in the U.S. Army Special Forces at Fort Bragg, long-time al-Qaida operative and trainer of terrorists who bombed the New York World Trade Center, chief of security for Osama bin Laden, CIA agent, FBI informant, and applicant for a Department of Defense security clearance. In addition to being a fascinating tale of intrigue and deception, the Ali Mohamed story has important lessons about vulnerabilities in the personnel security system.
He served in the Egyptian Army until 1984, when he left to work as a counterterrorism expert for EgyptAir.
Get it?
The commando who bombed WTC in 93 and trained the commandos who did WTC 2001 worked as an airline security consultant.
Get it?
The Toronto Sun article is spot on. I’m forwarding a copy to my congressdog and senatoes. They bring up an interesting point about where the hell is the Civil Liberties Union. How about The Center for Science in the Public Interest? They have plenty to say about the fat in my burger but nothing about the x-rays in my flying?
The first article mentions a good point: if pilots and crew are required to go through these things, they could certainly claim a hostile work environment.
http://gizmodo.com/5690749/these-are-the-first-100-leaked-body-scans
Posted in another thread. These are millimeter waves scans not the much more revealing back scatter x-rays.
As always: issues are being conflated.
Whether or not there should be a TSA program of body scanning and/or pat downs is totally separate from whether or not certain goons will get off on it or not.
Scenario: you take your 12 yo daughter to a doctor for an annual physical. When going into his/her office you hear the receptionist say: “Heads up, here comes a cutie.”
Does that mean that annual health check up are an invasion of your privacy?
BTW, can a gay traveler ask for an OPPOSITE sex TSA officer to do the pat down? This is getting complicated…
and about a year ago, someone predicted misuse and abuse of the technology… that it was only a matter of time before some famous celeb had her “naked pix” for sale by some anonymous TSA agent.
#16, Bobbo,
Scenario: you take your 12 yo daughter to a doctor for an annual physical. …
Poor analogy. AMA guidelines require a female in the room at the same time whenever a male examines a female patient.
Our daughter is a “cutie”. I have heard her physician’s nurses and staff refer to her before, when she was younger, in such terms.
The problem is so many people put a different spin on the word when it is said by a male. HOWEVER, hearing it from a “trained professional”, such as a doctor or nurse, and hearing it from a “quasi-professional”, such as a TSA inspector about to pat down my daughter, I too would have some concern.
Mr Confusion–I hear ya but your explanation only reinforces my post.
Conflation.
I assume you know what it means so you must be hung up on one or more of the tangential issues?
Yes, having your attention to the actual issue displaced onto an unrelated issue causing FUD all around. Really bad when it happens while arguing it isn’t.
Ha, ha. Dig deeper. You are wrong. I say this not caring at all about the issue at hand: just the application of conflation.