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Christine O’Donnell, who is backed by the Tea Party Express, is running in this week’s Delaware Senate primary against Rep. Mike Castle. Castle, a former governor, has been winning elections in Delaware by large margins since 1966, and in any normal year his victory would be assured. But this year, nothing can be taken for granted.
O’Donnell’s views appear to be particularly extreme, even by Tea Party standards. In 1998, she told an MTV interviewer that masturbation is the same as adultery because “the Bible says that lust in your heart is committing adultery. So you can’t masturbate without lust.”
In an article written about the same time, the fiercely Catholic O’Donnell declared, “When a married person uses pornography, or is unfaithful, it compromises not just his (or her) purity, but also compromises the spouse’s purity. As a church, we need to teach a higher standard than abstinence.”
O’Donnell’s
charactersanity has also become an issue in the campaign. She recently told the Weekly Standard that she doesn’t give out the location of her house because it was broken into and vandalized during the 2008 campaign — even though there is no police report of any such incident.“They’re following me,” O’Donnell claimed. “They follow me home at night. I make sure that I come back to the townhouse and then we have our team come out and check all the bushes and check all the cars to make sure that—they follow me….They knock on the door at all hours of the night. They’re hiding in the bushes when I’m at candidate forums.”
She’ll fit in well with the rest of the Republican Party.
“the Bible says that lust in your heart is committing adultery. So you can’t masturbate without lust.” you can masturbate without lust, you can’t masturbate without hands. think about it. Ok I had way to much to drink this evening.
>> pedro
>> We should put her in a ticket with Pelose. Birds of a feather
Pelosi is NOTHING like your nutcase conservative candidates.
In the first century, men would sit around at the city gates and make lewd taunts at the women coming and going.
Credible bible scholars don’t take this verse to absurdity.
Would somebody please inform the Republican leadership that these moralistic, irrational, theistic rants are not compatible with their underlying current of libertarianism. These nutcases force everybody to placate them, and in effect taint the party.
>>Angry said,
>>Didn’t Jimmy Carter say pretty much the same thing in his interview with Playboy?
I don’t remember him equating masturbation to adultery or even mention masturbating.
But, still, you make a good point. I think Carter was also coming from a literalistic interpretation of that scripture.
>> Alfred said,
>> Slavery ended in the US because Christians found it against their religion, based upon the entire Scripture, including the ones you misinterpret.
You’re not telling the whole truth.
Yes, NORTHERN Christians led the fight against slavery.
But, SOUTHERN Christians had an elaborate pro-slavery and later pro-segregation theology.
I would argue that this difference between the “northern bible belt” and the “southern bible belt” is still evident today.
Every study finds that Repubs use much more pornography than Dems. Just like great Catholic cities are where wild Mardi Gras celebrations take place.
Alfred,
You conservatives hate Pelosi because she kicks your butts in the House. We liberals wish someone as great as her where kicking your butts in the Senate, too.
>> Alfred Persson
>> We will will against your attempts to make us all slaves via your Trojan horse health care.
Yeah, it’s the such slavery to go to a doctor instead of dying untreated under the current crappy conservative healthcare system.
>> Alfred Persson
>> #78 We Christians formed the Republican party to fight the Democratic party slave owners…and won.
Please don’t tell me you’re homeschooling your kids in history!
You completely leave out the fact that the parties today are NOTHING like the parties back then.
But I notice you didn’t refute my original point:
NORTHERN Christians fought against slavery.
SOUTHERN Christians fought for it.
So, it was deceptive of you to say that Christians ended slavery.
While the political parties have radically changed since back then, the the northern vs southern Christians have changed less.
The “northern bible belt” tends to be more inclusive, more socially conscience, and more progressive.
The “southern bible belt” tends to be more racist, more combative and more regressive.
Interesting to see Alfie hand a label on someone/an issue and after that nothing will change his mind.
This is pure ego, but I laugh watching GregAllan try to “reason” with Alfie with the same results when I try to reason with GregAllan. Lots of points of comparison, differences too. But in the end, how “different” are the religious??
Is the desire to believe rather than require proof genetically based, so that like the gay it can be cured or is it purely a cultural norm?? I’m thinking its a mix of both and will be with us for a long time.
Is an actual desire to be moral and logical any hook at all to drag the possessed back to reality or is the line just too weak save for the smallest catches?
Religion==excellent subject on which to tease the difference between being insane yet functional to those other states of being.
Surrounded.
Silly Hoomans.
rawstory as a source? really? why not source the onion?
…so when we get in Power, we will make it a crime!
#63
I do not presume evil is of profit. But I do not blind myself into thinking that you will make choices in a kingdom when you are subservient to your liege. The liege is absolute, his will is your duty. I am very aware at how monarchy works, especially one that would be ruled by a king that knows everything you do before you do it. Whether you are a willing slave or an unwilling slave matters not. The fact that you will be rendered incapable of doing anything but God’s will makes him sound like the master and you the thrall.
#64
Pascal’s wager is illogical. Because it makes the wagerer believe that God is so dull that he can’t see through your hedge. That he is satisfied with “well he picked me because the alternative would be death”.
Weak choice when you think of the scripture in Matthew where Jesus calls all humans to be perfect like the father. Perfect in this context is not infallible but is the greek word teleios. Which means to be the best that you can be, the way that god is the best god he can be.
IF you are the best that you can be you would have already figured out that using Pascal’s Wager is in error. Because god is not so thick to not see through what you are doing. Hence why you should be all for or all against rather than to play a bet. So the wagerer will not see the kingdom, because the faith is weak. Gambling on what might be than trusting god in the first place. The wager is invalid in the context of god.
I am very well versed in the scriptures and their meaning. More than many in the Christian faith. The problem is that unlike during the times of Elijah, there is no presence of god towards man. If of course there were such a thing in the first place and that Elijah hadn’t hedged his bet as well.
Therefore I cannot corroborate nor deny such a deity. And rather than to try and trick an omnipresent deity (by which confers his omniscience and omnipotence) with Pascal’s Wager, I would instead just wait and see what happens.
My ego is not as great to think I can trick a god. Which sounds very much like a greek myth or a grimm’s fairytale to me.
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she better stop looking all hot because i’ll be guilty of that sin.
Alfie,
RE: #77
You’re judging an ancient agraian economy by modern standards, and that unfairly. This “slave” was in reality an indentured servant obligated to work for 6 years, then would gain his freedom.
Wrong. Your own quote proves it. Hebrews serve for six years, they are BOUGHT. If they marry and have children, then their wife and children become property of the master. If they wish to stay with their wife THEY must give up THEIR freedom. Plus, non-Hebrew slaves don’t get the option.
Also people sold their own daughters, this text ensures they are treated fairly in such a system, which was for the good as it was the means of propagation of the species without killing your neighbor to take his daughters:
How do tea baggers refer to it when they are taxed? Slavery? How should be refer to it when a child is sold for labor, fair treatment? And propagation of the species? Get serious, you still endorse the enslavement of women.
Finally the Bible does not condone abortion, just the opposite, this text says the unborn child’s life is equal to the adult who killed it:
22 “If men fight, and hurt a woman with child, so that she gives birth prematurely, yet no harm follows, he shall surely be punished accordingly as the woman’s husband imposes on him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
23 “But if any harm follows, then you shall give life for life,
(Exo 21:22-23 NKJ)
If a husband is cool with the idea, such as he does not want any more children, he may have his wife aborted with no penalty. ONLY if he did not want the child aborted does he ask for the judges to punish the person.
Verse 23 only says that willful harm will be punished accordingly.
NO WHERE else in the bible does it even pretend to suggest abortion is wrong. It does advance abortion and infanticide several times.
Isaiah 14:21 Slaughter the children for the guilt of the father.
Hosea 9:14 “… Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts”
Hosea 9:16 “… yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.”
Ezekiel 9:6 “Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women, …
Exodus 12:29 “And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt …”
Leviticus 26:22 :I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, …”
Isaiah 13:16 “Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; …”
13:18 “Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children.”
So where is all that moral authority the bible brings you?
Yup. That bible endorses abortion and infanticide. What a book. Does anyone know of another book where so many people are killed?
Alfred,
It’s really pathetic you get your history from Glenn Beck!
Yes, de-regulation and the wild speculative economy led to the “Roaring Twenties.”
But the same economic bubble popped and led to the Great Depression.
It can very fairly be called “The Republican Great Depression” and the current one could be called the “The Second Republican Great Depression”.
Well, except that the American voters put competent leadership in the Whitehouse. Surely, of McCain had one, we would have gone into full-blown depression with +25% unemployment (and twice that unofficially), armies of homeless wondering the country, millions of malnurished kids, etc.
>> Alfred Persson said, o
>> #83 The health care bill is a Trojan horse…nothing more.
Pure, paranoid nonsense.
>> With it your entire life will be regulated, lest you cost them money.
_I’m_ not being regulated.
It’s the insurance company bastards who are being regulated.
The ones who will take your over-priced premiums for DECADES and they cancel your policy when you get sick.
When you conservatives killed health reform in ’93, you promised us that de-regulation would make healthcare cheaper, better and freely available.
Instead we had MASSIVE INCREASES IN PRICE, millions more uninsured and tens of thousands, rampant medical bankruptcies and tens of thousands of our fellow citizens dying every year for lack of heathcare.
THE CONSERVATIVES WHERE WRONG ON EVERY COUNT and screwed America because of their obstructionism.
…. and you’re doing it again.
Alfred,
You’re still here?
Have you been up all night arguing on this board?
What do you do for a living? I’m also curious how you get your healthcare paid for.
Most people who pay their own premiums or are uninsured welcome healthcare reform.
Freedom to die sick and destitute under a bridge. Lets hear it for the 21st Century conservative strategy! Wooooo!
No, not a dingbat !!! But a RELIGIOUS FANATIC !!! People in Delaware should STAY AWAY IN DROVES !!!
>> Alfred1
>> Freeloaders, the lifestyle of the welfare dependent, didn’t exist.
Guys like you, Alfred, are the deadbeats.
Out of some unhinged notion of “freedom” you justify not buying health insurance.
But we all know how that one goes — you get seriously sick, run up a GIGANTIC bill and declare bankruptcy, shirking off your debt on responsible citizens and businesses.
PS: Are the same same “Alfred1” who used to get this board a whipped up, like when you/he justified the cold blooded murder of a doctor in his church?
Alfred Glenn Beck is the Antichrist
Think about he has all the distinguishing characteristics.
and this O’Donnel might be one of his many assistants
oh no our little Alfred if following the Antichrist
come back Alfred
#98, Alfie,
#96-97 You aren’t credible, asking what you believe about the Bible is like asking what a dog thinks of a fire hydrant.
But you didn’t refute any verse I posted. Nor did you provide any verse contradicting Exodus 21.
#100,
#96 The image of your red faced, foaming at the mouth body bent over a keyboard, violently pounding out your hatred of scripture, is inescapable.
Nope, you still haven’t rebutted me. Don’t you ever read what your bible really says? I could post a few more passages where you get your morality from. Murdering those from another city just because they don’t adhere to the same fairy tale as you? Slaughtering everyone simply because your god says to? Berating Solomon because he spared the oxen from slaughter of another area in order to feed his tribe? Enslaving others, including women?
Ya, the bible is a great place to get your morals from.
I actually watched about 15 minutes of Glenn Beck last night. He wanted his viewers to know that he was PROUD to be rich and he wasn’t going to apologize for it. He is RICH and that shows that everyone else can be rich too.
I caught him right after 60 minutes did a show on a snake oil healer charging ALS patients their life savings for a cure==which is impossible as of this date. He sounded just like Glenn Beck–PROUD to take the money from those he was helping because without his snake oil, all people with ALS die. The fact that they all died with his snake oil was irrelevant.
PROUD is what we should all be evidently. I wonder how close voting for a teabagger is to voting all incumbents out of office? Too much like a cure for ALS? 8 years of George Busy, the Great Recession, and the Pukes still have political power? Somebody is way too proud or way too (something?).
You can argue with a teabagger, a thumper, a wingnut==but in the end all you can do is keep your own sanity and hope the socially insane are kept to small numbers.
Society-more fragile the larger it gets?
i like turtles
Alfred’s convenient historical memory is almost as funny as his “non violent” defense of torture.
But I guess we do have more bridges for the elderly to die under than we did in the 30’s, so that’s something.
Alfie,
#115, #112 So Glen Beck is the Antichrist? Are Cheerios doughnut seeds?
It requires a “yes” or “no” answer.
So you like Glenn Beck. Does the bible endorse abortion and infanticide?
It requires a simple yes or no, but you can tell us where in the bible it says abortion and infanticide are wrong.
#115 you are such a fan of copy and paste heres some proof done the Alfred way
Your hero Beck is the Antichrist
)He will subdue three kings [Daniel 7:8, 24]
better ratings than Larry King, took MLK jr speech day, looks like he eats at Burger King a lot. )He is different from the other kings [Daniel 7:24]
only one Beck(thank god) )He will rise from obscurity…a “little horn” [Daniel 7:8]
yup Beck was once obscure those were the days )He will speak boastfully [Daniel 7:8; Rev 13:5]
just like his minion Alf here he speaks boastfully )He will blaspheme God, [Daniel 7:25; 11:36; Rev 13:5] slandering His Name, dwelling place, and departed Christians and Old Testament saints [Rev 13:6]
well he is Mormon for many that might count
)He will try to change the calendar, perhaps to define a new era, related to himself [Daniel 7:25]
see MLK jr speech day ()He will try to change the laws, perhaps to gain an advantage for his new kingdom and era [Dan 7:25]
)He will confirm a covenant with “many”, i.e. the Jewish people [Daniel 9:27] This covenant will likely involve the establishment of a Jewish Temple in Jerusalem [see Dan 9:27; Matt 24:15]
lets face it he is pro-Israel )He will not answer to a higher earthly authority; “He will do as he pleases”[Daniel 11:36]
he ignores his legally elected President )He will show no regard for the religion of his ancestors [Daniel 11:37]
yup only the one wife )He will not believe in any god at all [except for himself] [Daniel 11:37]
seems in his heart this rings true he it just so full of himself )He will have “no regard for the desire of women”: He will either be asexual or homosexual [Dan 11:37]
many adamant homophobes turn out to be gay (after they come out the LGBT community often forgives them like Christ would) )He will only honor a “god” of the military. His whole focus and attention will be on his military. He will conquer lands and distribute them [Daniel 11:39-44]
well he is a hawk not a dove but this refers to the war of the media yup still guilty )His arrival on the world scene will be accompanied by miracles, signs and wonders [2 Thess 2:9]
the fact that he has a national voice at all is a miracle )He will be worshipped by many people [Rev. 13:8]
like our Alfe here )He will hate a nation that initially will have some control over his kingdom, but he will destroy this nation [Rev 17:16-18] keeps saying he wants to take america back he must hate the way it is. )His name will be related to the number six hundred and sixty six—but not necessarily in an obvious fashion [Rev 13:17-18]. any one with a Ouija Board will tell you trying to spell Beck will always come out 666
)He will be empowered by the devil himself [Rev. 13:2]
he signed up at the crossroads with so many great blues musicians I think I saw it.
Beck is undeniably a charismatic, intelligent, determined, and revolutionary individual. Often, hundreds of thousands of people attend events when Beck speaks. Believing him to be a great leader mass-hysteria and complete devotion are another things witnessed . Beck seems to have the ability to lead and inspire millions of people. The antichrist, who will be the leader of a one-world governmental system in the end times, would have to also possess such traits. It will take just such a person to deceive the entire world in the end times. The Bible prophesies that the antichrist will look a lot like this Glenn Beck.
I’m not going to follow him and I would implore you Alfred not to be one of his followers like Christine O’Donnell who wants people to be as sexually oppressed pedophile Priests