Linksys used to be a great company before Cisco bought it. I have a Linksys RV082. A couple of months ago Cisco released a firmware “upgrade” that has made the router barely usable. Version 2.0.0.19tm is poison. If you are running an earlier version – DON’T UPGRADE. Once you upgrade you can’t go back to an earlier version.
After upgrading, web access is very slow. If a page has multiple images on it many of the images don’t load. However if the RV082 is removed and I connect directly to the cable modem it works normally. I have been hoping that Cisco would fix the problem but so far nothing.
This I think is an example of what happens sometimes when a big company buys up a good smaller company and then manages to destroy it through stupidity. Linksys has really gone downhill and I’m just not going to buy any more of their products. I’m now looking to replace my broken dual wan router with something that actually works. Cisco sucks.
Older Linksys stuff still works like a charm, especially with 3rd party firmware.
Come on, man…
“an firmware”??
“poisen”??
Spell check, please.
Does the 3rd party firmware work on a RV082?
Marc,
Doesn’t appear to be any 3rd party firmware for it, yet. Good luck.
Agreed 100%.
I switched to buying Netgear after a couple LinkCisco products sucked mightily and I retired them. My old Linksys routers work very will still. One wonders if Cisco screwed up Linksys so they would not compete with their high[er] end stuff.
I know many people who HAVE to upgrade firmware/software as soon as it comes out as if they are getting their next drug fix. I took a quick look at the 2.0.0.19 release notes and it offers zero added features and just some bug fixes. IF IT WORKS DON’T UPDATE!!!
I have a RV082. I upgraded to 2.0.0.19tm about 2 weeks ago and it seems to work just fine. I also still have the option to restart with an older firmware version under System Management – More… >> – Restart. What’s up?
I too have RV082. I upgraded to 2.0.0.19tm months ago and it has worked just fine. VPNs stable. Simple to reboot former firmware and reload former config if need be, but it has run flawlessly.
You may want to reset config to default then start over with clean reconfig.
I haven’t been a big fan of any product that has been released by Linksys since the Cisco acquisition but the WRT54GL is still one of the best low cost routers available especially if you put DD-WRT on it. Overall though it does feel like in the low cost consumer market Linksys is really losing ground on the quality front.
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What is the diff between..
Hub
Router
Switcher
And is there any reason to use 1 over the others.
Myself, I just use a STUPID HUB.. I can plug 5 other machines into it, and NONE have a problem getting to the net.
I can also setup to talk to EACh machine on the hub..
Never had good luck with Linksys routers.. I’ve even had bad luck with incompatibility with their hubs/switches for end-users. This was long before Cisco bought them.
Frankly, I’ve not bothered to see if they’ve improved since. Dlink and Netgear tends to be well placed price wise and I’ve had less hassle with them.
I bought a couple of home routers. One the WIFI was DOA and I took it back and got a exchange (wrong move). The second one completely died in less then 30 minutes. I ended up with a Netgear WNR3500. Won’t buy another linksys or Cisco product ever!
DD-WRT are working on a Linux based open source firmware solution for the Linksys RV082 These are great fun and worth experimenting with, if you have the time.
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Hub – Sends the date to all PCs, relies on them knowing what to receive
Switch – Sends data to ONLY the PC it was intended for
Router – Similar to a switch but also bridges two different networks together (ie WAN to LAN)
In a home environment a ‘stupid’ hub is fine, but if you’re using more than 2-3 PCs and are transferring a lot you have a substantial amount of needlessly duplicated traffic and its just not secure.
Just go get a 5 port gigabit switch, very cheap <$30, way more secure, way faster if you move a lot of data.
#5 Be careful with netgear. They have an absolutely dreadful record when it comes to making sure drivers and firmware is made available to fix issues with older products.
I've just had to get a new network storage device (by linksys as it happens) to replace a unit that Netgear said they were going to upgrade the software for (64bit) but never followed through. The new linksys is working flawlessly.
Never had a problem with dLink, and I have had 4. The two new wifi routers work great. Fast and easy to diagnose and set parameters. Security is not a problem at all.
In my opinion and experience, high end Cisco equipment (~$40,000) isn’t all it’s cracked up to be either.
And my home linksys stuff has always been flakey, since 1991.
I don’t understand why it is so hard to push bits down a wire at 100 Mbps.
A router routes information between IP networks: such as between 192.168.135.102 11.23.45.76
A switch connects different MAC addresses, on the same IP network (192.168.22.x), with a virtual circuit or pipe: such as 00:23:DF:54:23:12 00:13:54:A7:21:BD
A hub takes messages from every wire, connected to the hub, and retransmits (floods) every other wire with those messages, causing collisions and forcing retransmission of data.
A smart Switch Router, like a high end Cisco series, will initally route between networks – but then set up a switched circuit between the end points to relieve the router portion of workload. Pretty cool.
I’m sure someone will want to correct me, Bobbo?
Sorry, “since 2001”, not “since 1991”.
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HUB = broadcasts on all ports, causes a lot of collisions, no traffic control, common with BNC 45ohm coax cable networking, very brain dead.
Switch = “switches” packets to the proper port where it needs to go. Traffic control; doesn’t blindly broadcast like HUBs do. Much less pack collisions, since data is routed one way while other data is sent elsewhere, instead of all into a big pile like HUBs.
Router = A switch that links between two subnets and properly routes data with in a subnet, and between them.
NATs are also Routers, they do the same thing but they link to non-addressable subnets (like 192.168.xxx.xxx or 10.xxx.xxx.xxx), and for that to work properly it has to TRANSLATE the packets from LAN to WAN IP address.
All it does is swap out the LAN IP address of your PC, with the WAN IP address your ISP gives you. The NAT translator also keeps track of those packets so when a reply comes in the NAT knows with device is expecting the reply and swaps IPs on the packets again, and sends it off.
I think i got that right.. and i never took a networking IT class! 🙂
Personally I have nothing but problems with Linksys gear and their abominable firmware. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Eric, it is possible to use layer 2 equipment to talk end-to-end world wide? Does every swich have to know every MAC??? Are you on the wacky weed?
Marc once again you whine like a little girl. I have never in my life seen a man cry as much as you do. You can downgrade the firmware. Then again your track record with anything technical makes me wonder. Please for the love of god put the computer and the router down and back away from them. Leave the technical stuff to the big boys.
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As to a hub..
What insecurity on a hub.
Someone has to GET to the hub an plug in to do anything.
Even with the others, unless it has AV hardware included to BETWEEN computers, they are all vulnerable.
I can see where a Hub is to open on the ports, and little controls as to where its going. But no worse then using a SCSI interface with 255 drives.
Switch/router..
I can see this as a way to MAKE customers buy the more expensive Router over a switch..90% of customers REALLY dont need a router.
and AS TO WIRELESS…
AS i SAID IN Previous DV post…
NOT if you like security.
Spend the money and wire a small home..Attic or basement, is very easy to do.
I’ve always stuck to Netgear. Linksys, Belkin, et. all, allways seem to give me trouble. Netgear… rock solid. It costs more, but I think it is worth it.
I’m a D-Link fan and own two products of theirs. But I do have one problem- I am too retarded to get either unit to gather the time correctly. Plus my twisted mind sees gross spelling errors in the firmware. But that’s just my mind.
I use RV082 with the latest firmware and it just works. What’s Marc’s problem he is obviously not able to properly diagnose.
I’m a typical home user with wireless. I live in an apartment and can’t run my own cables, and wife won’t let me run wire from room to room).
I have a Linksys cable modem, and a Netgear wireless router that’s set up properly so packets are secure. If we get a house later, I will be able to run Ethernet cables.
I’m a network administrator.
We only use Cicso gear where we absolutely have to (ie, our WAN providers usually mandate it.)
I was using Cisco 1700 and 1800 series routers for our internet gateways, however configuring IOS to do anything complicated is painful, debugging is horrible, etc.
Their web/java interface is inconsistent, and writes messy, horrible access-lists which are a pain to debug afterwards.
Cisco charge a fortune for a support contract, too; without support you can’t apply the frequent security patches Cisco gear needs.
We’ve now replaced all our AU $5,000+ Cisco 1841 firewalls with AU$400 geode/ALIX systems, running Monowall or Pfsense, which *just works*, including all the stuff you pay extra for with Cisco (eg ipsec VPN, wireless,intrusion detection, and security updates.)
Cisco fans will come back with “but all you need is training, of course you are having problems!” – really? I need training to configure a router? give me a break, I’ve got better things to do. For boring old ethernet routing there are a myriad of better, cheaper solutions.
If I need a router to do all the extra, non-ethernet stuff a Cisco router can do (eg X.25 / ATM /frame relay / serial, VOIP, idsn etc) I’m getting a competitor’s router wherever I can, eg Juniper, etc.
We have a couple of gigabit Linksys switches, which have been fine, although the management interface is crap (only works in IE.)
I’ve also had two WRT54g ADSL routers which have died shortly after we installed them, we now use Draytek and Billion, which both work fine.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/csbr/rv082/release/notes/RV082_RN_v2-0-0-19-tm.pdf
uh hello peeps it WILL NOT LET YOU DOWNGRADE IF YOU HAVE VERSION 2.0 HARDWARE
I have v1.1 and I can downgrade. also I have to keep doing a hard reset to get throughput faster than 2-5mbps. Cisco agreed and sent me a new rv082 v1.1 under warr. and EXACT same issue on v1.1 as was on v1.0 hardware. plus almost impossible to get both wans recognized. the rv082 is almost a brick compared to my netgear fvs338
there is an issue with the router/ it is not really an issue but you need to configure the rv082. What this guy describe is that he is just connecting a cable modem and this router can do way much than work as a home router.
if the router slows down your throughput change the WAN Settings to MTU manual to say 1500 bytes. This will speed up your router. I have worked with this Version 2.0.0.19 and so far I havent had problems.
probably you need to read more about routing and internet to know how to configure this box as this is not plug and play