Have these chuckleheads learned nothing from the past? Only the winners get to rewrite the history books. Plus, there are just too many people still around who actually lived through the past twenty years who know what really happened. Or are books and whatnot from these people meant to be fiction?
Now the revisionist floodgates have opened with the simultaneous arrival of Karl Rove’s memoir and Keep America Safe, a new right-wing noise machine invented by Dick Cheney’s daughter Liz and the inevitable William Kristol. This gang’s rewriting of history knows few bounds. To hear them tell it, 9/11 was so completely Bill Clinton’s fault that it retroactively happened while he was still in office. The Bush White House is equally blameless for the post-9/11 resurgence of the Taliban, Al Qaeda and Iran. Instead it’s President Obama who is endangering America by coddling terrorists and stopping torture.
Could any of this non-reality-based shtick stick? So far the answer is No. Rove’s book and Keep America Safe could be the best political news for the White House in some time. This new eruption of misinformation and rancor vividly reminds Americans why they couldn’t wait for Bush and Cheney to leave Washington.
But the old regime’s attack squads are relentless and shameless. The Obama administration, which put the brakes on any new investigations into Bush-Cheney national security malfeasance upon taking office, will sooner or later have to strike back. Once the Bush-Cheney failures in Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran again come home to roost,
as they undoubtedly and explosively will, someone will have to remind our amnesia-prone nation who really enabled America’s enemies in the run-up to 9/11 and in its aftermath.
You were surprised when this happened,……… why?
I don’t think that you were there Uncle Dhuhave… It is amazing how it is automatically fiction when it doesn’t agree with your communist point of view…
Oh gee. Another fear based theme “Keep America SAFE”.
An oldie, but goodie tag line for the sheeple.
If Obama can blame the previous President (Bush) for the bad economy a year and a half into his presidency, then Rove can blame Clinton.
“Have these chuckleheads learned nothing from the past?”
Yes they have learned well, and from the master.
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People don’t consciously give away their freedom. It gets leeched away, piece-by-piece, for semi-plausible reasons; but pretty soon all the little reasons add up and, before you know it, your freedom is gone.
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This is the way the world will end.
This is the way the world will end.
This is the way the world will end.
Not with a bang, but a whimper.”
T. S Eliot
This is the way our freedom will end.
This is the way our freedom will end.
This is the way our freedom will end.
Not with a bang, but a whimper.”
Stu Cohen
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“If large numbers of people believe in freedom of speech, there will be freedom of speech even if the law forbids it. But if public opinion is sluggish, inconvenient minorities will be persecuted, even if laws exist to protect them.”
George Orwell
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Zoo animals are protected, observed, and monitored but not free, hence the term “in captivity”. By giving up your privacy (or having it taken away) you’re worse off than zoo animals. Like them, you’re a captive – unlike them, you’re not protected; because your captor cannot possibly protect you. That’s not freedom by any stretch of the imagination,.
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Without habeas corpus (the Great Writ, as it is known), the other freedoms are meaningless. You can have free speech, or freedom of religion, or the right to assemble and petition your government; you can have your guarantees of freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures, but it all doesn’t mean a damned thing if you have no recourse when the government snatches you up and holds you indefinitely for exercising those rights.
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Find out just what people will submit to, and you have found the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them.”
Frederick Douglass
It’s what I’ve always called Stu Cohen’s First Law: “People will treat you as badly as you let them”. – Stu
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“If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.”
James Madison
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A terrorist’s “job” is not to kill us, it is to create terror — paranoia, suspicion, mistrust, all those nasty emotions — in the hopes of coercing us to give up our freedoms.
Give in to it and the bad guys have won. Resist the urge to trade liberty for security, and we win. Democracy can stand up to terrorism without becoming the mirror of our enemies. Don’t let anyone try to convince you otherwise,
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“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”
Josef Goebbels – Reich Minister of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda in Nazi Germany
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The real danger is from fools who can’t see beyond their own narrow partisan interests. They are willing to sacrifice anything – including their own country – as long as their “side” wins.
Sorry for posting too much in #5. A copy/paste error. I only meant to post the following.
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“Have these chuckleheads learned nothing from the past?”
Yes they have learned well, and from the master.
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“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”
Josef Goebbels – Reich Minister of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda in Nazi Germany
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The real danger is from fools who can’t see beyond their own narrow partisan interests. They are willing to sacrifice anything – including their own country – as long as their “side” wins.
Don’t you understand? Lying is considered an artform by republicans. It is totally acceptable and the tactic of choice. As the RNC revealed recently in secret documents, the reason for this is that they consider the American public to be a bunch of ignorant sheep.
America finally woke up in 2008 but republicans have doubled and redoubled the constant stream of false assertions and innuendo that feed the likes of Fox spews. Many Americans buy these falsehoods because of purely selfish motives and not a little racism. Most will never do a little research to find the truth. In the end you might say that the Bush legacy was the final murder of truth in this country.
The really scary part is, most of the republicans cannot, or will not, ever believe that they’ve been duped.
“Courage” !!! What a laugh. “Hubris And Consequence”, there, that’s better.
I was going to say something close to what Mr. Ed said, but he got it right the first time. Dubya and Chaney were lying to us during their entire Administration. Furthermore, they used 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina in an attempt to embellish their lying, with the help of Fox “News.”. My late father in law, who was a WW2 vet and a conservative, was so incensed at the lying during the Katrina “cleanup” that wasn’t, that he stopped watching Fox News, and voted Democratic until the day he died.
Ya, ya. And it’s not possible to win in Iraq and Afghanistan. And Bush’s Gates and Bernanke are morons.
RBG
People talk about an equivalence of the parties, but that isn’t true. If you want corrupt, ineffective, and incoherent the Dems fit the bill. The GOP is admirable organizationally, but their philosophical ideas are wrong enough to approach insanity.
Movements like this that need to alter reality to justify themselves are interesting and surprisingly durable. Nixon is the originator of the modern GOP. At least he was a proper villain. A smart man.
The rest of the chain is filled with weak links. “Not as dumb as people commonly assume” is not a good minimum goal to set for people seeking national office.
Ah, another totally non-biased article by the inimitable Frank Rich of the New York Times.
Well, actually he is inimitable (i.e.’imitate-able’) – every Bush hater here has popped up to attaboy his article.
As for me, I agree with #4 – every administration blames the one(s) before for everything.
Heck, the AFL-CIO is still blaming pres. Hoover for the economy.
If you don’t like Rove, don’t buy his book. Buy one of Obama’s, or maybe Clinton’s.
History will sort it all out.
And may we not forget the END of the Afghan war, and what we did there.
And that at the END, Bush sr. was in charge. Insted of keeping a small hand on the country and helping them recover..we LEFT and said NO to reconstruction. To assisting the nation to gain a foot forward. A leg up..
NEXT thing you know, we have Bombings..
PS..
You might look up Grandfather BUSH..He was a real PUKE..tried to assassinate a president.
To wound a powerful man, you first need to wound his name.
#14 ECA –
That’s insane.
#16: Actually, there is circumstantial evidence that he might have been involved. It’s been documented that he was in Dallas that day and refuses to say why or even remember where he was. Everyone in America alive then remembers where they were when Kennedy was shot. Except Bush Sr and his CIA buddies.
Considering that Dick Morris managed to write two books(one titled Rewriting History) about lies in the Clinton’s books, this is small potatoes.
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Lying is considered an artform by republicans
You mean lying is considered an artform by politicians. You don’t really believe that Democrat politicians are any more honest than Republican?
Frankly, in 2010, we’ll see who is awake. After the Democrats won a number of seats in 2008, I wondered how long it would take before people had that “Oh yeah” moment. That moment when they say, “Oh yeah, that’s why we stopped voting for Democrats.” Fact of the matter, right now both parties are a grease fire. The pendulum this year will probably swing the other way.
RE: OP
While I think that Rove is a tool, so is the original author of the article. Yes, it is ridiculous to claim that no terrorist attack occurred under Bush’s watch. However, it is also ridiculous to claim that 9/11 was Bush’s fault or that Iraq was a failure. When Bush left office, Iraq was getting ready for elections and we had a plan in place to reduce our presence there. That’s about as successful a war as you can get.
I’m still shocked by some of the supposedly smart people on this blog who haven’t got a clue.
First, Uncle Dave, “Only the winners get to rewrite the history books.”
Who says Rove isn’t ultimately going to be in the winners circle?
Remember this! November 2nd is going to be a bloodbath for the Dems, and 2012 even worse.
Is it any coincidence that Rove, the Master Puppeteer, has released this tome in time for Hannity, Limbaugh, Palin, Coulter, Malkin, O’Reilly, and the like to make this the new reality?
Give Rove 8 months or so, and he will have will over half the country believing. The Dems will be like a deer in the headlights.
Yea, there are some chuckleheads here, but Rove’s not one of them.
“Remember this! November 2nd is going to be a bloodbath for the Dems, and 2012 even worse.”
Worse than 2006 and 2008 were for the Republicans?
#17 Uncle Dave –
I hope that your tongue was planted firmly in cheek when you wrote that.
While it’s not surprising that Aunt Dave would post something like this, it’s also not surprising that this comes from failed movie critic and resident leftist Frank Rich and the NY SLIMES. Dvorak’s blog is again passing opinion off as fact. John, why are you letting your blog further dunk itself into the sewer with these moonbat lefty blog posters?
#23. Dvorak, asleep at the switch…
“# 22 Frank IBC said, on March 14th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
#17 Uncle Dave –
I hope that your tongue was planted firmly in cheek when you wrote that.”
I think Uncle Dave is starting to wake up.
16,
HAVE A READ..
“His business dealings, which continued until his company’s assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.
The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes prosecutor to argue that the late senator’s action should have been grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
The debate over Prescott Bush’s behaviour has been bubbling under the surface for some time. There has been a steady internet chatter about the “Bush/Nazi” connection, much of it inaccurate and unfair. But the new documents, many of which were only declassified last year, show that even after America had entered the war and when there was already significant information about the Nazis’ plans and policies, he worked for and profited from companies closely involved with the very German businesses that financed Hitler’s rise to power. It has also been suggested that the money he made from these dealings helped to establish the Bush family fortune and set up its political dynasty.
Remarkably, little of Bush’s dealings with Germany has received public scrutiny, partly because of the secret status of the documentation involving him. But now the multibillion dollar legal action for damages by two Holocaust survivors against the Bush family, and the imminent publication of three books on the subject are threatening to make Prescott Bush’s business history an uncomfortable issue for his grandson, George W, as he seeks re-election. ”
aND THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT a Coup with FDR..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
Your text is in quotes. Source? The link you provide is only for the very last sentence, and there is no mention of the Bush family in the linked article.
The new Bush biography “Brains of the Outfit” will be for sale at the sign-in booth of the next RNC convention. You can have the book signed by his holiness for $35.
Rove was on Meet the Press this AM.
He said the Iraq war wasn’t about oil. Then he said it WAS about Saddam withholding oil. Wow…..
What was left of my brain exploded.
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