This apparently keeps getting pulled down from YouTube because Mormons don’t want outsiders to see their bizarre beliefs, including how the ‘negro race’ were cursed to be born with black skin. So, watch it while you can.
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Haha! God knocks on Mary’s door when he comes to bone her.
Also, I didn’t realise God lived on a star base. Very educational. I want to know more about the magic underpants.
They also seem very hung up on skin colour. Whats that all about?
Ummm yeah. I don’t even know how to respond to this. Oh yeah I do. I WANNA BE A GOD TOO. Where do I sign up.
Try and find “The God Makers” which should be both a book and a video… check Christian bookstores probably.
Maybe it’s on the web somewhere too.
Another good inside look at the Mormons and the whole scam perpetrated by Joseph Smith and his buddies.
I see it is on video.google.com so go have a watch!
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As opposed to the scam perpetuated by every other religion?
Is that Joseph Smith or L. Ron Hubbard?
All religions with a “god figure” are “unbelievably” (sic) moronic.
I wonder how many adherents actually sit down and contemplate the body of their beliefs from start to finish instead of just latching onto a line here and there or a general feeling of good will?
Fantasy wish fulfillment. We see it in our politics too. What else is “lower taxes makes us free” but religious dogma?
Silly Hoomans rapidly becoming throat cutting pathetic.
Ahah! Magic Underpants Explained!
#9. Yeah, the South Park version is my favorite…as usual.
Yea they believe in some nutty shit but aren’t all religions completely insane if you take the time to look at the big picture? Having said that
I would much rather live in a Mormon community than 90% of the rest of the population.Aside from knocking on my door in the morning they have very good family values that seem to be disappearing from the America. Yea I know alot of em and have worked for and with a lot more, Just good people that might as well believe in the spaghetti monster ,,, let em be adn maybe we can learn some manners from them.
The next time I hear of a Mormon kid arrested for doing a drive by I’ll re asses my opinion.
Okay, the cartoon is actually an excerpt from the full “God Makers” video.
I just watched it and the cartoon appears near the beginning.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
Have we here stooped so low?? Apparently so.
From the National Conference of Christians and Jews;
“The film does not fairly portray the Mormon Church, Mormon history, or Mormon belief. It makes extensive use of half-truths, faulty generalizations, sensationalism, and is not reflective of the true spirit of Mormon faith. … We are of the opinion that the film relies heavily on appeals to fear, prejudice and unworthy human emotions.”
Not to mention, “The Anti-Defamation League considers the movie to be “Mormon-bashing.” In addition, the ADL describes the film as “invidious and defamatory.”
With all the really important things to talk about, why are we wasting our time on this when we can bash the Scientologists???
It would have been better if Ed Decker, the producer of the film, had played it straight, instead of crafting the story as an unabashed hit piece.
I am an ex-Mormon and know my Mormon theology well. I would say 10-20% of the facts are simply wrong or exaggerated, and 20% of the argumentative force of the piece is mere spin.
Making fun of Mormon underwear is about as juvenile as making fun of the Pope’s hat, a priest’s collar, and other vestments of the clergy. And making fun of a V or an L stitched on a garment is no different than making fun of crosses on necklaces, earrings, and tattoos.
In certain respects, Mormonism is like scientology for beginners. Yeah, there’s some kooky stuff. Just like Sarah Palin speaking in tongues, or any other revivalist evangelical denomination. It is also in many respects a natural, American-style extension of Protestantism with his lay priesthood. The magic underwear is really but an extension of the vestments of priest craft to the congregation at large.
In terms of temperament, I like the South Park criticisms the best. I’m not much for Mormons or Mormonism in general. It’s not clear to me that it is benign, but it is not clear to me it is worse than the alternatives that some would prefer. But the difference between real journalism (or documentarianism) and a sniveling hit piece is clear. It seems to me that prevarications of truth should be put down in all their forms.
I’m converting. Thanks for the post!
#14–gilga==can you be more specific?
What was “false” in the video?
Hm…. “Elohim” is the plural of “El”…. You’d think that these folks would know Hebrew….
The Old Testament essentially has two versions intertwined (actually there may be more like 5), and one version always uses the plural, whereas the other one always uses the singular…. Whether it’s an “editorial ‘We'” or the “Elohim” group were polytheists, is not known….
Here’s the thing about Mormon’s that fundamentalist Christians don’t understand:
Mormonism already incorporates ALL of protestant theology into its religion and adds on top of it its own complex theology. Trying to convert Mormons to your faith is like trying to tell a college student that he is better off back in junior high school. It does not work!
If a Mormon converted from another faith they may occasionally go back to that faith, but the vast majority of Mormons who leave the church usually end up giving up on Christianity completely. Lots end up moving towards Universalism, Buddhism, or just give up on religion completely.
“This apparently keeps getting pulled down from YouTube because Mormons don’t want outsiders to see their bizarre beliefs”
I think we want it pulled down because it is completely inaccurate and a gross misrepresentation of our faith.
Thing is I’ve met black “negro” LDS missionary elders, who came to visit my home. I doubt he was told he’s a “neutral” spirit.
So even while a lot of this stuff is outrageous, even the Mormons themselves selectively remove information from their own dogma to make them seem less crazy, or comply with law. All religions do this, and it’s a never ending processes.
Joseph Smith went crazy in the end and was murdered. He wasn’t a martyr for his beliefs, he went fucking insane from the pressures of having multiple wifes. Any man would go bat-shit crazy if he had a half-dozen ugly women nagging and complaining. Plus the fear of getting hunted down by the LAW since polygamy is illegal.
Most religious followers were known to have some unstable mental issues with visions and such. There’s one religion based on a little girl who got hit on the head from a rock that another girl threw at her. Since then she had nothing but visions and dreams that she interpreted as religious. I forget the name of this religion though.
#14, #18 #19 You don’t know your own religion. Check out the book Kingdom of the Cults or The Maze of Mormonism by the later Dr Walter Martin and other books to find out the truth not what you “think” is true.
#19 it’s called freedom of speech. And Mormons also have the rights to edit their own dogma to suit their needs for the times.
LDS isn’t the only group of people who call them selves “Mormon.” There are many Mormon factions who live in closed isolated communities (read compounds), wear clothes from 200 years ago, and shun technology. Perhaps it’s these people are the ones being portrayed in this cartoon?
I also find that this selfish notion of “becoming a god” is one big masturbatory wank. Other than the fact we all fear our own death, they have to lay on this “you’ll be a god” bullshit. what a crock of selfish bullshit.
all religions are selfish. Muslim’s 72 virgins sound really damn selfish to me.
Oh for Christ sakes. How is this any weirder than the legends that other religions are based on? At least the mormons aren’t advocating mass murder suicide bombings and flying airplanes into buildings.
Well in truth, even if you are religious, you are an atheist as well: think about all the religions that once were big-time, everybody-is-in-it deals that now you laugh off. Anybody worship Zeus much anymore? How about Baal or Athena? Know any Scandinavians still jiving with Wotan? No? Gee, I wonder why? This variant that Peter cooked up called Christianity just has had good “legs” (But not as good as Judaism, eh?)
Mormonism, like Quakers, Shakers, snake-handlers and dozens of others are just the peripheral weirdness-du-jour. Some point in the future they will have joined thousands of others on the ash heap of failed gods.
Meanwhile, don’t get too worked up over it…..
Oh! I found a little more info on this flick.
It’s from the Mormons, but it answers Bobbo’s #16 post.
In fact, the response is pretty good. Makes this video look hilarious.
http://en.fairmormon.org/Specific_works/The_God_Makers/Cartoon
http://en.fairmormon.org/Specific_works/The_God_Makers
What I was wondering was, how could the Mormon church make Youtube pull a video so quietly. Turns out they didn’t request the video to be pulled at all.
Turns out the only evidence showing the Mormons tried to have this video pulled is because the video title says so.
FRAGaLOT “Perhaps it’s these people (communes) are the ones being portrayed in this cartoon?”
Good point. Who knows?.
Although there is the great point to be made that he Decker was in it for the money. No money in knocking the Catholic church. Jews – forget it. Protestants? – boring!
Mormons, YES!
I agree completely with Mustardtits #11.
Nothing to see here.
What a fairy tale! And this people believe in – at this day and age?
Education, alas what happened to education?
And mind you, lots of other fairy tales too……..!
Well, the spooky B-SciFi music should have been taken out and a better track used. Ah, delete that; done on purpose I think. Spent two weeks on Mormon sites a while back and still don’t know enough to say much. I didn’t read anything that matches the video word for word. The video seems to take a few facts and several myths from [?] and pump up the drama to paint a white supremacist dream. No wonder the Mormons are pissed. I smell an old smear campaign gone youtube-ville.
My best friend from high school is Mormon; he seemed okay, although I thought it was weird that he couldn’t drink pop. If I saw him now he is sure to have 18 children probably from 5 wives.
Looks like the hits against Mitt Romney are starting early this presidential election cycle – knock him out early!
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Amish drive-by
Just remember that Glenn Beck is smart enough to believe this. Along with Mitt Romney and Harry Reid.