1. XCowboy2 says:

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    I hope nobody confuses your nonsense with Rand’s actual writings. She called for the banishment of physical force from human affairs in all matters. Force is destructive to man, his mind, and violates his requirements for survival: his rights.

    Watch the second half. On “Force”

  2. LibertyLover says:

    #31, I would take your post seriously, but everybody knows you are Mouch’s lapdog.

    Your words cannot be trusted until you answer why you would sacrifice others to save your wife.

  3. Mr. Fusion says:

    Rand grew up in the Soviet Union under the communists. The totalitarian communist regulations of “the State owns everything and everything is for the benefit of the State” strongly influenced her thinking.

    Her mantra of “protect us from violent crime but allow business to freely steal” fails for one big reason found in the opening words of the Constitution. “We the People,…” That means it is the people, through their elected representatives, that make the rules by which we govern ourselves.

  4. LibertyLover says:

    #34, Wow, what a coward. Come on, Poison Twin!

    Quit avoiding the question.

    You want to bash other people for being selfish, but you refuse to tell us why you would sacrifice others to save your wife.

    Man up!

  5. Zardoz says:

    Ayn Rand gave out nothing but simplistic libertarian claptrap. As with all Utopian philosophies it won’t work in the real world.

  6. LibertyLover says:

    #36, How do you know it won’t work?

  7. Rick Cain says:

    Ayn Rand was a woman, which for me is more than enough justification to not listen to anything she ever said.

  8. Zardoz says:

    LibertyLover,

    The simple answer is there are no examples of where her philosophy worked.

    Read Plato’s Republic then continue up through other utopian readings through the 19th and 20th centuries. Read about the 19th century utopian experiments in America and Europe, and why they failed.

    If you don’t see the flaw in Rand’s ideas then you are the perfect Libertarian tool.

  9. LibertyLover says:

    #39, Show me where a welfare state survived and I’ll accept your definition.

  10. Brent says:

    It is grimly humorous to me the mental gymnastics people go through to deny the logic behind Rand’s message. You cry “SLAVERY, EVIL BANKERS,” and so on, but you’re just regurgitating popular words and phrases you’ve heard elsewhere. I won’t waste my time addressing all of these, but the slavery and evil bankers arguments perturb me the most:

    SLAVERY!: Slavery is force, smart guy. Force is ILLEGAL, and would remain so without a strangled economic system. The same goes with any similar argument.

    EVIL BANKERS!: Banks couldn’t destroy your money’s value if your money had REAL VALUE. The fact that your money’s value is dependent on the amount of money that the Fed decides to print and the amount that is created through bogus, and largely unpaid, loans could be quickly rectified by having money that is backed by silver or gold. Then, the “evil bankers” and the idiots who fall for bad loans could go on doing whatever they please and it would not effect you in any way.


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