Head of IPCC Poised to Make a Fortune for Himself — Wow, this guy is really something. Exactly how all the facts in this article were ignored by the media until now is astonishing. He will be the first Carbon billionaire, not Gore. Gore is small potatoes compared to this genius.
No one in the world exercised more influence on the events leading up to the Copenhagen conference on global warming than Dr Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and mastermind of its latest report in 2007.
Although Dr Pachauri is often presented as a scientist (he was even once described by the BBC as “the world’s top climate scientist”), as a former railway engineer with a PhD in economics he has no qualifications in climate science at all.
What has also almost entirely escaped attention, however, is how Dr Pachauri has established an astonishing worldwide portfolio of business interests with bodies which have been investing billions of dollars in organisations dependent on the IPCC’s policy recommendations.
These outfits include banks, oil and energy companies and investment funds heavily involved in ‘carbon trading’ and ‘sustainable technologies’, which together make up the fastest-growing commodity market in the world, estimated soon to be worth trillions of dollars a year.
related story:
Carbon traders already making millions. And they are not who you think they are.
The oil companies, given huge amounts of permits, found it easy to trim their emissions a little and so make huge profits. Expanding businesses and public services, on the other hand, were forced to buy more permits. In its first year of operation Shell made a profit from carbon-trading of £49.9million and BP a profit of £43.1million.
How much detail will the public and “warmists” need to read and hear about before it dawns on them that this is one huge scam and the money is coming out of their pockets in the form of increased prices and taxation? Dumbing down the educational system and subverting the media has indeed paid off.
Found by Tom Diggle and Stuart001 via Twitter.
From: Obamaforever
To: ArianeB
Welcome to the illogical world of John C. Dvorak.
I am afraid you will read more of Johnny’s inanities on this blog. There seems to be no end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#30 RGB
Um, no.
#30 RGB
‘This against all the manufactured computer projections of your experts. The science shows your experts don’t know what they are talking about.’
So it’s a bit like my dads better than your dad.
This is just amazing. It’s just amazing how few people can handle power and influence and not become corrupted.
When we see things like this it makes one hold out little hope for the regular guy and apparently human nature as many great writers have said basically NEVER changes, not even over thousands of years. One could argue were actually getting dumber…
Re: #27, freddybob28k, “As time goes on there is more and more scientific evidence linking man made emissions to climate change. And as the science becomes more solid,”
Actually that’s not true. As time goes on, more and more of the original science is being contested and found in error.
JimR
Actually that’s not true. As time goes on, more and more of the original science is uncontested and found to be correct. I said it so it has to be true, right? 😉
Bernie Madoff, eat your heart out.
qb,
By George, I think you’ve got it! 🙂
(Now I’m wondering where that originated and who George is.)
The deniers have fallen to smear the messenger in order to throw more FUD on the science. If the lead spokesperson is shown to be a little less clean than Jesus, the whole science behind the matter has to be a fraud. How silly an argument can the deniers come up with.
The part I really liked in the Telegraph piece was complaining Dr Pachauri isn’t even a climatologist, he is an economist. The funniest part is the deniers like to tote out the discredited report done by MacIntyre and McKitirick even though MacIntyre has a BA in rocks and McKitirick is an Economist.
Does anyone realize the General in charge of the Manhattan Project was an architectural engineer?
#44 You’re a good lad JimR. I raise my beer glass to your health.
Information is beautiful.
Mr. Fusion, here is Wikipedia’s take on Rajendra Pachauri:
He began his career with the Diesel Locomotive Works in Varanasi.
Pachauri was awarded an MS degree in Industrial Engineering from North Carolina State University, Raleigh, in 1972, as well as a joint Ph.D. in Industrial Engineering and Economics in 1974.[5]
He served as Assistant Professor (August 1974 – May 1975) and Visiting Faculty Member (Summer 1976 and 1977) in the Department of Economics and Business at NC State.
So, he doesn’t appear to have any real “climatology” related qualifications. However, he WAS apparently tied to the BIG OIL and BIG NATURAL GAS industry in India:
“Pachauri was on the Board of Directors of the Indian Oil Corporation (January 1999 to September 2003); Board of Directors of GAIL (India) Ltd. (April 2003 to October 2004)” – [also from Wikipedia].
Sooo, he was actually a shill for the despised oil industry?! Say it ain’t so!
This AGW scam just keeps getting weirder and weirder. There is too much money at stake. There are charlatans are all over this ponzi scheme. And I fear we have barely scratched the surface.
If you combine this guy with Al Gore, you still have zero actual climatology expertise but you do get one Nobel Peace Prize.
Suprise! “-that ain’t my finger either..”
-s
Don’t blame the educational system. These people are liberals and they go with their feelings. Facts just get in their way.
#12 Pedro.
Hailing Capitalism! Capitalism in it’s current version is obviously a failed experiment that little by little is showing itself for what it is, a scam much worse than climate change. Most of the brainwashed preconditioned idiots living in denial here on this blog will continue to repeat the dogma they’ve heard and even shout it to prove how right they are. There’s no sense in trying to use sense or reason with a zombie. Por los mismos gilipollas que no paran de llorar sobre gente como este, que van a engañar a sus gobiernos y costarles una fortuna en impuestos. Este misma gente apenas soltaron un gemido cuando el gobierno les estaba violando con los bailouts.
So it’s really important to have a “public option” in health care so greedy fatcats can’t profit from something that should be done only for the good of humanity, but when it comes to AGW, it’s perfectly OK for corrupt A-holes to engineer a scam that will harm billions simply to make immoral profits for themselves.
Interesting.
BTW, I bet even a lefty like Cronkite would be sickened by the criminal malfeasance being practiced by todays MSM.
In semi-profile (shown above) this guy looks like a cross between the excellent Penn Jillette and a monster from hell.
#57 serious
Nice post, if you leave the www. out of the URL your links would work, thanks anyways!
amodedoma – thanks, didn’t know that. Will do next time! 🙂
#57 Serious
Sorry dude, you lost me at “Check out my post #17…”
qb scroll up and look at post #17 😉
#57, Serious,
You’re full of shit. Look it up.
If your point in another post was relevant I’d have checked it out already. Obviously there would be no need to suggest I do. Nothing you posted in #17 is worthy of my commenting on. Someone else might find it worthy, I found it rambling and irrelevant.
If you have a point to make, make it. If it is necessary to back up your point, provide a link. Links to a search (that Google cut off) don’t cut it.
Accusations that Al Gore installed someone into a position of power requires a citation. A casual association is something entirely different and should not be used as a fact.
Through your piece you continue to accuse everyone of ulterior motives instead of accepting that ALL serious scientists and ALL serious professional associations have accepted the concept of AWG.
According to previous posts of Obamaforever and Mr Fusion et al. this means they have no knowledge and understanding of climate, this was the argument made against the climate skeptics so the same would apply to them
It means I trust those smarter than myself and who have actually studied the matter to have a lot more validity than someone who listens to and accepts conspiracy bullshit from right wing nut talk radio. I have a degree in engineering, yet I have to accept that I don’t know everything and have to accept others have done the work. I have learned to cull investigation from bullshit.
That a mathematician, statistician, astronomer or geologist could not speak out against AGW, because they were not qualified and that majority of “scientists” worldwide agreed that AGW was happening – which i proved wrong.
YOU proved wrong? Now you are the ultimate “decider”? NEWS FLASH, “A denier is the ultimate decider”!!!
Let me make a long story short. The majority of your post is just ramblings. There is no point made. There is no refutation of any data presented. There are no alternative ideas presented. The links you present are disjointed from your comments (I won’t read a 80 page report to find what you want me to, I WON’T do your homework). All I can see is your attempt to refute some of the lead advocates of global warming by smearing them.
#63, Serious,
You are improving.
You still didn’t provide any link or cite demonstrating Gore hand picked Watson. That is an accusation contained in a memo from an apponent. Your own link provides the clue as to how the head of the IPPC is chosen.
Did you read that. They are elected by the member countries, not hand picked by a Vice President.
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Second quote,
Dr. Watson lost his bid for re-election after the administration threw its weight behind the “let’s drag our feet” candidate,
Dang !!! There is that “election” word again. How the heck are you supposed to appoint people to a position when others get to vote on him?
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Third link, well lets just say it doesn’t alter anything. Watson wasn’t re-elected there either. BTW, have you ever heard of “tinyurl.com”? If you are going to use URLs that long it might be to your advantage.
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And you are completely wrong Mr.Fusion – NOT ALL serious scientists and ALL professional association have accepted the concept of AGW, in fact if you have watched the news, more and more scientists are speaking out against it. Even highly acclaimed climatologists, even IPCC scientists that contributed to the 4 IPCC reports have spoken out against AGW and cap and trade. Look em up and you will be surprised!
Such as … ?
You see, here again you made a bold statement without backing it up. You then have the audacity to tell ME to look it up. If there are so many scientists speaking out then surely you can name five that don’t believe the earth’s climate is warming. As for professional associations, I’ll accept just one. The only caveat is that the professionals and association have some connection to climate sciences. BTW, Cap and Trade is a totally separate issue.
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My reference to no knowledge was not to you or obamaforever it was specifically to Rajendra and Watson, because neither is a climatologist.
Well, you didn’t phrase it well. In fact you said,
According to previous posts of Obamaforever and Mr Fusion et al. this means they have no knowledge and understanding of climate, this was the argument made against the climate skeptics so the same would apply to them – That a mathematician, statistician, astronomer or geologist could not speak out against AGW, because they were not qualified and that majority of “scientists” worldwide agreed that AGW was happening – which i proved wrong. Funny thing is that they have all released papers making scientific claims about the climate, yet having no doctorate in climatology.
As I pointed out above. Rambling and disjointed. What is the subject in this paragraph? Is it Obamaforever, mathematicians, AWG is happening, you proving us wrong, or what?
Anyone can speak out about something. In order for their opinion to carry weight though, it is best if they know and understand the subject. A mathematician can very well discuss the attributes of any math computations, an astronomer can understand the value and quantity of the sun’s impact, … as experts. That does not qualify them to start deciphering ice cores or discount a correlation between CO2 and historical climates.
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From previous posts both you and Obamaforever hacked down on climate sceptics saying that only climatologist could accurately address AGW, citing 97% agreement among climatologist in a CNN poll, because only they knew the climate. That poll was actually de-bunked by another poll showing the contrary.
You see, this is where you lose all credibility. Well, what little you had left. I don’t recall Obamaforever, and I know I haven’t, cited any poll claiming “97% agreement”. Especially one that was debunked. Maybe if you have the time, you could tell us what thread and post numbers those were.
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You don’t have to do any homework for me Mr.Fusion i read the reports, presentations and watched the videos and reported the facts as stated in quotes. I dare you to do the same and educate yourself rather than taking whatever is spoon fed to you by the media and bash people and call them names.
You see, we have a problem. You like quantity and I like quality. You will post a link and suggest someone read it it. Why? How about I post some links for you to read? If you got past Gr. 10, you would know that that kind of sloppiness quickly earns a F. As the reader you give ME the information, don’t tell me to read someone elses report and sift through the garbage. Don’t point me to a video and say “see, proof”.
The “proof” you posted is meaningless. Just because you don’t like someone is not a refutation of a report with their name on it. It is a personal smear and usually only worthy of contempt. If you can’t attack the message, DON’T attack the messenger.
#65, Cherman,
You have no shame. Therefore, calling you a hack wouldn’t bather you in the least.
Carbon trading is pretty much exactly the same as mortgage derivative trading- and it would dwarf cdo trading.
Including the fraud.
#64, Mr. Fusion
“The “proof” you posted is meaningless. Just because you don’t like someone is not a refutation of a report with their name on it. It is a personal smear and usually only worthy of contempt. If you can’t attack the message, DON’T attack the messenger.”
– Kate Hampton, international climate co-ordinator for Friends of the Earth said: “The fossil fuel industry and the US government will be celebrating their success in kicking out Bob Watson, an experienced scientist who understood that urgent action is needed to tackle global climate change. The Bush administration and its friends would rather shoot the messenger than listen to the message.”