If you haven’t read Matt Taibbi’s analysis on Barack Obama selling out to what George Carlin used to call “the real owners of this country”, it’s a must.




  1. Obamaforever says:

    From: Obamaforever
    To: Nospam per #31

    Since there is no link I am thinking you pulled this out of your asshole.

    I am not going to do your homework for you, dickhead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Give me the link or go away, Retard!!!

  2. Ah_Yea says:

    It’s hysterical to watch Obamapologistforever’s world come crashing down.

    He Obamapologistforever, you never responded about how you felt about this article!

    http://rollingstone.com/politics/story/31234647/obamas_big_sellout/1

  3. nospam says:

    #34:

    You wanted to know the part of the bill. I gave it to you. I know, it’s hard to go look it up, but I sighted chapter and verse, and you, well, you just keep making an ass of yourself.

    So at least we know that you are good with people going to prison for not buying health insurance. Thanks for clearing that up.

  4. LibertyLover says:

    I guess it’s time to start buying insurance company stocks.

  5. Faxon says:

    Obamaforever:
    You make a wonderful case for why liberals are fucking insane.

  6. testtubebaby says:

    We have to force polictians out of office.

  7. Obamaforever says:

    From: Obamaforever

    To: nospam

    I will make this short.

    Still no link and that makes you a lying piece of crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    bye, nobrain and please do not come back!!!

  8. Obamaforever says:

    From: Obamaforever
    To:Faxon (aka King of the Retards) per #35

    Tell me what would have happen if Obama had NOT bailed out the big banks and AIG?

  9. nospam says:

    #40:

    You have the bill number and section. Not my fault if you are too lazy to look it up or too ignorant to know how to do it. You are now cordially invited to go fuck yourself.

  10. Faxon says:

    #41: Keep going. You prove my point.

  11. Obamaforever says:

    From: Obamaforever
    To: Faxon (aka King of the Retards)
    per #43

    No answer. I expected that.

    Quote.
    #41: Keep going. You prove my point
    End of quote.

    The “my point” phrase I am assuming (hell, I know) is referring to the point at the top of your head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Be careful how you word things, pinhead!!
    Mr. Fusion would be proud!!!!!!!!!!!

  12. Crazy Smart says:

    Same mindless idiots on here. Crips vs Bloods. The Republicans KNOW all Democrats are evil and hate America (listen to Beck, Limbaugh, Palin, etc). The Democrats KNOW all Republicans are money grubbing heartless fat cats who are just trying to sell our our country to China and take our money for Wall Street. Guess what. The parties really aren’t that different.

    What you want smaller government and are tired of the “government taking your money”. Golly, vote Republican, and guess what, the IRS will still take the SAME amount of your money, and government will get bigger. It did under Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush 1, Bush 2. But I’m sure those were just accidents and if we just elect a Republican president in 2012 the IRS will go away, taxes will disappear, yet somehow our military (budget) will get bigger, social security and Medicare will get ‘protected’…some MAGIC money elf will just allow us to not pay for it.

    You people, Crips and Bloods, are just suckers. You think YOUR side will fix everything and the other is the problem. It doesn’t matter. Both side are owned by the banks.

    NO MORE $500 million dollar elections! 100% publicly financed election (f**k the money equals speech argument). If you have to raise $300 million to run for President, you will ALWAYS get Wall Street owned Presidents, regardless which party you elect. Grow up.

  13. Somebody says:

    “Maybe Bill Ayers really should be elected, or Nader. Some real brick thrower. Not a poser.”

    Or perhaps you meant bomb thrower?

    Or maybe bombast thrower?

  14. nospam says:

    Fusion:

    My bad…it’s HR 3962, not 3692.

    And I didn’t give him a link because he was being an asshole. I don’t do favors for assholes.

    As for your questions, I don’t know. Maybe you should ask a right wing nut or a tea bagger. I have little to no need to associate with either group.

  15. amodedoma says:

    #39 testtubebb

    What! You still don’t get it! Fer cryin’ out loud!

    It doesn’t matter who’s in office, politicians have no real power. Money, that’s the power. It’s the golden rule, he who has the gold makes the rules.

  16. Obamaforever says:

    From: Obamaforever
    To: Mr. Fusion

    Thank you for taking the time to look up nobrain’s crap. The reason I did not do it because I did not want to go snipe hunting. nobrain’s posts make no sense.

    Mr. Fusion, I think you are on a Bigfoot hunt. Too bad you are not on an nospam hunt. You would have something to mount!!!

  17. ECA says:

    #18,
    It must be said,
    That we are forced already to buy Car insurance..Insted of personal insurance for driving. OR, the state charging a Monthly tax to each person whom drives a car, and THEN knowing whom to REMOVE..

    It used to be that there were Neighborhood stores to compete against each other and you could walk to them..NOW the car is almost a Necessity to GET TO THE STORE, 20 miles away.

  18. Obamaforever says:

    From: Obamaforever
    To: nospam
    To: All

    The correct information is H.R.3962 Sec501 and the Internal Revenue Code section 7201 and 7203.

    nospam, you are so fucked up your eyes are crossed.

    I was right. This is some Limbaugh crap.

    Go to http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200911230027 for the straight dope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    nobrain, you are a goddamn tea bagger!!!!

  19. Loupe Garou says:

    #47 Mr. Fusion.
    You need to learn to use the Thomas Database.

    The “go to jail” argument is an interpretation of SEC. 501. TAX ON INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT ACCEPTABLE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE of H.R. 3962.

    The argument is if you do not pay the tax you might be subject to the Internal Revenue Code Section 7201, “Any person who willfully attempts in any manner to evade or defeat any tax imposed by this title or the payment thereof shall, in addition to other penalties provided by law, be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more than $100,000 ($500,000 in the case of a corporation), or imprisoned notmore than 5 years, or both, together with the costs of prosecution.”

    Why do left loons hate America?

  20. Gwendle says:

    Obamaforever,

    I can understand passion for your arguments but really, name calling? I am trying to read between the mud slinging but gave up. I do love to see both sides of the discussion but you lost me.

  21. Obamaforever says:

    From: Obamaforever
    To: Loupe Garou

    Loupe Garou, you idiot, Mr. Fusion was given crap by nospam.

    Read my post #53 and GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS.

    You are a tea bagger which means you believe anything, Retard.

  22. Obamaforever says:

    From: Obamaforever
    To: all anti-Health Care Reform Retards

    Looks like you Retards believed the crap from nospam.

    No surprise, you have crap for brains!!!

    [STOP the personal attacks or you will be banned from DU – FIRST WARNING – Editor]

  23. Obamaforever says:

    From: Obamaforever
    To: Gwendle

    I will explain it to you. This is not quantum mechanics. Please pay attention.

    Go to nospam’s post #2

    I asked nospam to send me information and a link that would do the following: “Please show me in the Health Care bill where it says that if a person does not pay for health care insurance said person will go to federal prison.”

    nospam responds by sending me the following: “Section 7201 of HR 3692” (see post #31)

    This is a lie. It should read: H.R.3962 Sec 501 and the Internal Revenue Code section 7201 and 7203.

    nospam is lying. If you go to the site in my post #53 you will LEARN THE STRAIGHT DOPE.

    NOSPAM is a liar. He gives out disinformation.

    Do you understand now, Gwendle?

    Wasn’t that easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. Obamaforever says:

    To: Editor.

    I suggest you stop the lying on this site.

    That would help matters!!!!!!!!!!

  25. Obamaforever says:

    To: Editor

    There is only a small number of us anti-tea baggers who respond to the tea baggers in an intelligent manner.

    We do our research and we do not tell lies.

    Some of us respond in kind when we are given harsh treatment. Forgive us, Dear Editor, we are only human.

    I will refrain from the personal attacks. I will post to you any and all personal attacks against me. I hope you will respond to these personal attacks against me!!!!!!!!
    Trust me, you will get plenty.

  26. Ah_Yea says:

    Hey, Obamapologistforever,

    I see you STILL haven’t answered my post #35.

    Afraid of facing the truth about your Lord?

  27. deowll says:

    If they pass a bill Obama will sign it and call it a wonderful thing. What’s in it is beside the point.

  28. Ah_Yea says:

    And people like Dallas and Obamapologistforever will pee in their pants for joy.

  29. Glenn E. says:

    In order to sell out, one has to have had some pre-sellout principles to start with. Is there any proof Obama wasn’t already a pre-paid lacky of the rich and powerful? Putting McCain and Palin up against his candidacy, seemed to me to be a sure fire strategy to get his elected. McCain was way too old and half crippled. And Palin was scary stupid. Worse than Dan Quayle. Plus Obama was irresistible as the first possible black president, to all of the minority voters. So I think he was really made as the pre-sold-out candidate, for the democrats. Who’d rather retain control between themselves and the republicans. Then see a rouge independent get in the White House. It might make it way harder (more expensive) to buy them out. Or they’d have to turn loose another lone gunman, on him.

  30. nospam says:

    You know, I was going to respond to what’s his name, but he’s too busy seeing imaginary “tea baggers” behind every corner.


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