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Critics of Jesse Ventura and the overly theatrical style which unfortunately does detract from the message are conveniently overlooking the most salient point of the whole endeavor. Human nature being what it is, you REALLY CAN get to the bottom of things by following the money and power. History is bursting at the seams with examples of this and yet, lemmings that we are, we fall for it every time.
i8–qb==yes, thanks for the link. I think you truncated the MOST important idea of the scientific achiever though, in the first few sentences you left out:
“Great scientists tolerate ambiguity very well. They believe the theory enough to go ahead; they doubt it enough to notice the errors and faults so they can step forward and create the new replacement theory. If you believe too much you’ll never notice the flaws; if you doubt too much you won’t get started. It requires a lovely balance.”
And that might be another personality characteristic of conservatives vs liberal wherein conservatives “tend” to form conclusions that ignore the little nuances. Can there be great conservative scientists???
Your article says “NO!” and I agree. It also is another demonstration of why our politics fails. The demonization of the nuanced approached, liberals fail this as well, but the great liberals like the great scientists have more of this than the rest of us.
Very related, I think your articles main question: “Why do so few scientists make significant contributions and so many are forgotten in the long run?” went totally unanswered or at best answered incorrectly. It is mostly luck. Of course, one has to will themselves to make the effort, but every failure did that as well and they are forgotten. Einstein willed himself to think about light but the consequences of that inquiry is luck. Like Darwin, luck that that other guy didn’t get the nod instead of Darwin and I suspect that the great majority of scientific reputation is based on the luck of who gets the nod. Like the discovery of dna. Lots of people involved in that but Crick gets the nod. Same with transistors and on and on.
Keep the good stuff coming.
#30 BertDawg – You’re right. The simplest thing to do right now is wait, slow down and do the science transparently and make a sober decision. But, if we do that, there are a lot of people who aren’t going to make the fortunes they are anticipating. As was said above: follow the money. You’ll find Al Gore positioned to make billions of dollars. When asked about his investments, he answered to the effect: I’d be silly not to. He doesn’t see any conflict, at all. The earth science is so confused right now. But. more importantly, the AGW crew are simply ignoring other science. Solar activity. Is it affecting our climate? I think probably. AGWers say poo. Don’;t be silly. It’s all the SUVs and cow farts. I’ve read reports there is evidence of concurrent warming on other planets! This would seem to me to be damning evidence against an anthropogenic effect. But nobody’s following up. We’re in a headlong rush to make a new crop of billionaires and science and reality be damned.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/24/a-comphrehensive-comparison-of-giss-and-uah-global-temperature-data/
Heres a link to the weather data link North Pole it shows a steady increase in temperature.
It shows a yearly increase in temperature. There is also the other evidence of carbon soot in the top layer of ice from smog,photographic comparisons , sat photos eye witness testimony,ice cores etc.
Concurrent yet unconnected reports from Greenland and every other station that is keeping track of glacier melt.
So its a hoax Huh? They all got together to make this data up?
I just like to know whos paying you to keep this red herring up?
#35, So its a hoax Huh? They all got together to make this data up? I just like to know whos paying you to keep this red herring up?
The hoax is it is man-made and that we can do something about it.
Anybody remember In search of, or Unexplained Mysteries, or Arthur C. Clarke’s Mysterious World, it’s a format that works, all became classics. Somehow I don’t think Jesse’s gonna last very long.
#35 sproketstevens
Don’t bring reliable data into this, that’s just silly. Use data starting from when Noah left the Ark.
#34 Look up the little ice age. There is plenty of evidence that very minor changes in solar output can make a huge difference in what goes on with climate and yes when the Earth was warming so was Mars.
#37 amodedoma
I loved ‘In Search Of’ when I was a kid. Cant beat the Leonard Nimoy narration.
Jesse ain’t no Leonard Nimoy.
For those who care the rule seems to be low sunspot activity equals a cooler Earth or at least during the little ice age there was very little sunspot activity and lot of people froze/starved to death while sea ice extended south of Iceland.
This link is the most current I found on the topic: http://sidc.oma.be/news/119/welcome.html
My climate forecast based on this would be cooler than normal.
my dad is a scentist.
global warming is real, whether is man made is still inconclusive..
the earth warms and cools
did people for get we are in a warming period?
we are coming out of an “ice-age” so expect this to happen.. expect things to get worse hotter summers colder winters..
the “science” some of you say is in and the debate is over… you people are scary.. the debate is never over.. science is improving everyday.. Science of today is proved wrong tomorrow.
so don’t commit your life to this issue accept in the way that there is a natural warming trend going on .. and we can’t see the future . but its happening so slowly that all these stupid predictions 10 years or 50 to 100 years down the road are ridiculous.. Earth NEVER works that fast..
and if you can find the real research on this you will see this GW movement started in the 60’s.. rumored to be the 1st followers where the hippies who lived outside.. lol they had one super cold winter and Global warming movement started.
i believe we should put money into make clean energy affordable..
but you will crash this economy and put so many more people out of work it would be like Armageddon..
also we can control the weather to a point.. we can make it rain in semi large area’s by releasing chemicals into the air.. this has been done..
there are some serious idea’s about getting rid of carbon emissions..
but all of you people out there ready to vote for or endorse any amount of money any new major world control, Cap and trade.
YOU ARE SADLY IGNORANT..
you cannot trust world Governments that much let alone your own..
if you think the world is just trying to save it self with cap and trade you so DUMB.. lol rich polluting company’s will have to by the right to pollute all they want from third world countries.
so the rich paluting companys will still palute at the same time raseing there prices to buy the carbon credits whihc allow them to pallute.. whihc menas raiseing the price on you and your gas energy bills and much more.. anything that invovles shippping of products (EVERYTHING) price will go up. so the rich paluters won’t lose a dime palute more by sending your money to a thrid world country “to help them make jobs and grow”.
but these other country’s aren’t free market.. there like Venezuela where Sezar shaves uses his plants like his person piggy bank.. lol so make other world dictators richer, all while making are company’s richer and our leaders rich, all well the world keeps getting warmer! BECAUSE It’s A NATURAL PROCESS!!
GW does exists and maybe our industrial revolution is speeding it up … but we don’t know that for sure..
but reducing pollution is number 1.. reducing carbon emissions needs to happen.. the movement to clean energy is on its way.. its just not time yet to change the worlds economy’s off oil YET.. it will happen one day and it will happen in parallel with our economy and will help the economy instead of taxing the hell out of people!!
please Do not believe everything straight out hands down unless you know you have heard both sides.. and i bet yo have not heard a good argument on both sides of GW because they have been shut up .. and to shut up all the opposition there has to be big money involved..
Copenhagen was a summit of people with there hand out reaching for Obama asking for America’s money!
we don’t have money people!! we are broke we are in debt.
lol we saved 250 billion on tarp? oh we didn’t spend all the money we borrowed from china.. doesn’t mean that 250 billion is our money.. that needs to go right back to China to get the massive Debt Down..
you can make fun of my typing skills..
but i know the Facts and the theory’s on Global warming.. people are getting ahead of the facts so much it’s now become scary.
i wrote this really fast.. i apologize for the errors.. i didn’t spell check or re-read what i wrote.. my dad who works as a scientist for the Gov.. has been told by his boss to tone down his reports..
that’s a much bigger threat then you would think.
anyway we talk everyday about it.. i learn how and why it’s possible we could be causing the warming process to speed up.. but we don’t have any clue how fast..
the recorded records of weather go back only 130 years.. then its up to our non specific ways of getting the past on record.
if anything before the last 130 years is called fact.. that’s BS..
any good scientist never accepts anything that’s not completely conclusive.
I really think you need to listen to him. If you get thhe chance there are two books you can read. Secrets and Lies by David Southwell and Spychips…………..what he is saying is true.
FOR ALL YOU PESSIMISTS OUT THERE….CONCERNING JESSE VENTURA! YOU HAD ALL BETTER WISE UP BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE TO DO SO OR WE WILL ALL BE BENDING OVER AND KISSING OUR BUTTS GOOD-BYE!
I HAVE BEEN DOING RESEARCH FOR YEARS OVER THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT ARE ALIVE AND WELL IN THIS COUNTRY AND, I AM HERE TO TELL YOU! NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK OF JESSE VENTURA AS A PERSON, WRESTLER OR GOVERNOR! GET OVER IT AND PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THE MAN HAS TO SAY! HE IS WALKING ON DANGEROUS GROUND EXPOSING OUR GOVERNMENT FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS AND IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT….WHY IS HIS SHOW UNAVAILABLE FOR TOMORROW NIGHT!!?? IT USUALLY AIRS AT 9 OR 10 PM EST AND WE CHECKED THIS EVENING AND IT IS NOT THERE!!??
REMEBER! HISTORY ALWAYS REPEATS ITSELF! IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE ME, THEN….JUST OPEN UP YOUR BIBLES AND DELVE INTO THE PROPHESIES OF THE OLD TESTAMENT THAT DEFINITELY CAME TRUE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT!
IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOURSELVES, YOUR FAMILIES, YOUR COUNTRY AND THE WORLD IN GENERAL….YOU WILL BE SMART ENOUGH TO DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH! IT IS OUT THERE!
I AM A 67 YEAR OLD WIDOW AND I FOUND SO MUCH STUFF THAT IT MAKES MY HAIR STAND ON END!!
BEFORE CRITICIZING JV, USE YOUR OWN BRAIN AND MIND AND GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS!
THIS IS SOME SERIOUS STUFF! THIS IS NOT A JOKE!
MY PRAYERS ARE FOR ALL OF US BUT ESPECIALLY FOR THE PESSIMISTS OF THIS COUNTRY!
THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED BY THE BLOOD, SWEAT, TEARS AND HARD WORK OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SETTLED INTO THE NEW WORLD! IF YOU WOULD LIKE A REMINDER OF WHAT OUR COUNTRY IS SUPPOSED TO STAND FOR, WATCH THE OLD MOVIE “DRUMS ALONG THE MOHAWK.”
RE-EVALUATE YOUR POSITION, ARM YOURSELF WITH KNOWLEDGE AND THEN MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION ABOUT THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT ABOUND IN THIS COUNTRY!
MAY GOD BE WITH US ALL!!!!!!!!