Completely out of the blue:
Federal health officials now say that 4,000 or more Americans likely have died from swine flu — about four times the estimate they’ve been using.
The new, higher figure was first reported by The New York Times. It includes deaths caused by complications related to swine flu, including pneumonia and bacterial infections. Until now, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had conservatively put the U.S. swine flu death count at more than 1,000. Officials said this week they’re working on an even more accurate calculation.
The CDC says ”many millions” of Americans have caught the pandemic flu virus since it first appeared in April.
out of how many flu’s?? 20??
I think they are over lapping the numbers.
BECAUSE you aint running tests on a dead body..
http://flutracker.rhizalabs.com/
CDC
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/updates/us/
Oh it gets worse. Policy for counting swine flu cases is when the patient is diagnosed with the flu, you treat it the same anyway, so they just report all flu cases as swine flu.
And call this flu misinformation with as much vitriol over Hannity recycling even footage. You’re not? Because Obama officials get a pass when it comes to the truth.
Don’t worry Obama will come up with a new government program that will save us all. All it will cost us is a little bit more of our freedoms. But hey, its a good deal right?
I still say Fox News has it right a over a million cases.
It’s all in the article.
”It includes deaths caused by complications related to swine flu, including pneumonia and bacterial infections.”
Uhm yea, I think that probably more people die of bacterial infections than swine flu.. Are they just counting deaths by bacterial infections and mixing it with the swine flu deaths statistic? Or am I reading it wrong? Why can’t these articles be written in a way that is not confusing.
This is just more crap to let us take the shot. They’re hyping the death-count in Holland here as well. A good thing for me because I can always debunk it by telling people how many die from the regular flu or how many people die of being struck by lightning, and that’s the end of the argument.
50,000 American die every year from the regular seasonal flu.
If only 4,000 have allegedly died of the “swine flu” since April… what’s the problem here? It seem to be far, FAR less deadly than even the regular flu.
Are Americans of such a short attention span that they have forgot the other government hyped pandemic hoaxes such as SARS and Avian Flu?
Jane, get me off this crazy thing!!!
Give me a vaccine against traffic accidents!
Benjamin # 3,
You small minded fool. This whole thing was put in place long long before Obama was put in power. You are so out of touch it’s almost funny, xcept it’s not, it’s actually scary that someone can be as pathetically inept as you are. Epic fail loser.
Remember, the vaccine is Obama’s evil plan to kill all Republicans.
#9 hang on a second said… I am not quoting. You can scroll up to see what he said.
Since #9 resorted to ad hominem attacks, I guess I win that argument. I sort of feel cheated since he didn’t bother to debate what I had to say, but just resorted to calling names. It’s sort of the feeling you get when you win at pool because your opponent hit the 8 ball in before sinking his other balls.
They can’t tell how many have got it. Now they tell us 4,000 died from it?
The CDC is determined to scare everyone into submission are they not.
Why all of a sudden are we so concerned about this Flu strain? 10,000 die each year of the seasonal flu? What gives? Is their something they are not telling us?
The Guardian has a nice Google Docs Spreadsheet that gets updated regularly. Link to the document can be found here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2009/apr/27/flu-flu-pandemic
Guess what..
I don’t know about the deaths, but i can finally say i have now actually observed people coughing and sneezing on the mass transit systems here in NYC starting about 2 weeks ago…and the past two days it has quadrupled or more..
-in that 2+ weeks ago, on a total of 3 hours on the buses and subways, i observed 2 people, coughing, -one who was sneezing so much that i got off the bus to switch to another..
This week (past 2+ days) I found find someone coughing or sneezing almost constantly.. in a 2 hour total trip, i observed 7 people coughing, 1 who was also sneezing. prior to this and throughout the summer, i never observed anyone exhibiting any such symptoms over the 3-4 hours that i ride mass transit..
So yeah, somebody is finally showing symptoms of the flu season here in the nyc area..
Best way to minimize the effects of any flu is to learn what Cytokines are and how they play a role in the immune response.
Learn how to counteract the effects of the Cytokine storm that is triggered by your immune system in response to the flu..(in this case)
Certain simple anti-inflammatory and anti-histamines are all that is required to minimize the symptoms in most all cases.
(can’t say this will help in the case of the hemorrhagic “flu” going around the Ukraine, but some quick research shows the body response is very similar)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokines#Effects
My easy “fix” of course, is to learn how to nebulize silver colloid.
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One minor note for the conspiracy crowd..
Probably nothing..but roughly three weeks ago (around week of oct 26th) they were chemtrailing the crap out of the NYC area (again) in the early morning.
Whenever they do this i get the opportunity to take these awesome “red cloud” sunsets like the ones i posted several days ago.
(two such pics located in this directory)
My monkey mind thinks the aerosol program is in part, used to help reflect haarp radiowaves for “behavioral modification” -let alone weather modification.
However, anyone who has done their homework also knows that *any* disease / or disease symptoms can be transmitted via ELF/EMF radiation.
-as the human body is an antenna that both transmits and receives EMF handily…and that every organism (and body part) has it’s own electromagnetic signature..
-but i digress.
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The Age of Information has rapidly declined into the Age of Misinformation.
You would think the huddled masses would catch on to the government’s continuous fear’em and steer’em swindle by now.
Guess it’s safe to say that as long as there are sheeple, the government will create a crisis just for you.
I’m with #8 my truck got hit as I backed out of the drive this morning. He didn’t see my bright RED truck.
#12 – I thought it was 36,000 that die yearly from seasonal..
Nonetheless, no doubt this will be filling the headlines probably right around when the vote for the health care and cap&trade bill is in play (for voting/debate etc..(if not used AS the reason why we MUST sign the bill into law..of course..)
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#14 – TFLTR!
“4000” deaths from the actual H1N1 flu itself or from complications brought on by the H1N1 Flu like pneumonia or the worsening of chronic medical conditions, such as congestive heart failure, asthma, or diabetes?
I just wonder how many of these people would still have died if they had contracted the seasional flu?
#17 No, try 64,000 national deaths from the regular old flu and pneumonia annually. Why they’re freaking out about 4000 deaths is beyond me, that’s nothing in the scheme of things. Even if that was a monthly figure, it would still put swine flu far behind the death toll from the regular flu.
Big deal. It’s more hysterical nonsense.
ONLY pigs get swine flu because they are pigs. A human can’t get swine flu, because swine is the adjective describing who the flu is applied to. The word flu already describes a complex condition of the human body or mammal, and all flus are caused by multiple factors, not one virus. The cold weather is one primary factor as the body’s primary function is maintaining temperature by heating and cooling. When the weather gets cold all of a sudden people get flu, correction, they create flu. People eat crap foods, full of oils, and sugar, and the bacteria and fungus floating in the air gets in the lungs and grows like crazy on the oil slicks and the sugar. Why doesn’t your government tell you this?
#21 – Put your tinfoil hat back on and go back to your book on old wives’ tales.
#18 – Sister, I feel undereducated or unenlightened: WTF is TFLTR?
On the good side, 4 more people had died from H1N1 virus here in San Diego. So that’ll be 4004 now. Yay.
#21, 123 flu,
Why doesn’t your government tell you this?
Because it is bullshit and completely disproved by common medical knowledge.
and all flus are caused by multiple factors, not one virus.
Influenza is one virus with many strains. Read that again, ONE VIRUS. If it isn’t the (in)flu(enza), then it isn’t the flu.
#15, Dr. Dudd,
The Age of Information has rapidly declined into the Age of Misinformation.
A tactic taken to extremes by the right wing nuts. A group of whom you are a charter member.
i FIND IT HUMOROUS THAT, in the OLD days of Smoking in bars and clubs there are a GREAT air cleaner used to keep many smoke free.
And they cant run these on BUS and Trains??
Sounds like they’re “calculating” the swine flu numbers, the same way they do for Global Warming. Always projected to be far worse than is currently measurable. Or worse than any real hard data substantiates. Back when Gays with AIDS were first dying of various opportunistic infections, I’ll just bet they weren’t recording the deaths due to AIDS. But if it’ll help SELL the anti-virus. Hell, even motor vehicle deaths will be blamed on Swine Flu. Catch the flu, sneeze, crash your car and die. Another Swine Flu death, right? But if you had your cellphone in your hand, that’s not counted as a cause. The Flu trumps the truth, cause there’s vaccine money involved.
You know it wouldn’t surprise me to learn someday that the reason this flu strain was so long lived, was that someone was preserving it and reseeding thru the population. This certainly came along just when the medical profession needed the business.
#25-Mr Fusion-A tactic taken to extremes by the right wing nuts. A group of whom you are a charter member.
Conservative to the bone – and lovin’ it.
The right is certainly not without guilt, but with the help of willing media stooges the left has taken misinformation into new depths.
You halfway expect politicians to become slimy. You just hate to see it when a free press voluntarily becomes their lapdog.