New Yorkers are fleeing the state and city in alarming numbers — and costing a fortune in lost tax dollars, a new study shows.
More than 1.5 million state residents left for other parts of the United States from 2000 to 2008, according to the report from the Empire Center for New York State Policy. It was the biggest out-of-state migration in the country. The vast majority of the migrants, 1.1 million, were former residents of New York City — meaning one out of seven city taxpayers moved out. “The Empire State is being drained of an invaluable resource — people,” the report said. What’s worse is that the families fleeing New York are being replaced by lower-income newcomers, who consequently pay less in taxes.
Overall, the ex-New Yorkers earn about 13 percent more than those who moved into the state, the study found. And it should be no surprise that the city — and Manhattan in particular — suffered the biggest loss in terms of taxable income. The average Manhattan taxpayer who left the state earned $93,264 a year. The average newcomer to Manhattan earned only $72,726. That’s a difference of $20,538, the highest for any county in the state. Staten Island was second, with a $20,066 difference.
For the idiots who think we aren’t taxed enough… please, feel free to ante up.
And you know they’ll use this as an excuse to raise taxes to offset the lost revenue. They don’t get to stop spending…
I won’t be surprised to see one of the hacks suggest the need for a stiff “departure tax” to encourage the citizens to stick around.
I’m waiting for the sequel, Escape from the US.
Perhaps it’s a chicken/egg dilemma with nothing to do with taxes at all: The “lower-income newcomers” (ie. illegal aliens) bringing in crime, disease, and lowering property values scare off the respectable citizens. But because that previous statement could be construed as racist by the liberroids, we’ll just have to blame it on taxes instead.
The sequel will be “Escape from California.” Things aren’t much better here when it comes to taxes.
More likely, they would lobby to force the other States to have an “equitable” tax rates to New York’s to make the incentive for moving go away.
Compare the income tax rates of Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington and Wyoming to that of New York. Compare the growth rates of Texas and New York.
@StoopidFlanders
Wow, illegal aliens average $72,726 in New York? That is more than I make in IT in Kansas City. I see you are living up to your name Flanders. You wouldn’t be tea bagging on the weekends would ya?
#6 db869, Businesses in California are already fleeing to Nevada.
It’s not the taxes the keep me out of NYC. The cost of living there is insane. Rents are high. A beer is 10 bucks. You cross the river and you get twice the place for half the price.
Took me a few minutes to stop laughing….
Screw New York. The people put up with their dumbass tax and spend liberal politicians so they get what they deserve.
One of those former New Yorkers (Manhattan type) is renting one of our houses after she moved to our state. She’s pretty good looking too so I can’t complain. My wife even likes her.
10. Does your landlord pay property taxes? Guess who those get passed on to. That State Liquor Authority and all its bureaucrats can’t be cheap, either.
This isn’t surprising. Chicago is the same way, taxed out of existence and California is all but done for. I wonder what all those states have in common?
So where is the standard cavalcade of leftists foaming at the mouth, and soiling themselves with rage, trying to explain how this is all Bush’s fault?
New York City is getting EXACTLY what it deserves. This is a reflection of NY politics and resulting policies. Leaving may mean getting a $20k pay cut, but paying $30k less in taxes. Let all of us in other states and cities welcome our new friends from NYC.
Neither Bush or Obama or whoever comes next will ever reduce taxes. Keep on dreaming, american idiots.
Governmental bureaucracy on all levels is a monopolist business.
Monopolies always expand, never decrease (until government steps in, but since this is the Government there is no one left to step-in and stop them).
Why isn’t traffic getting better then?!
17. Traffic is a problem because the government controls the roads; and the government is filled with useless incompetent liberals whom have no concept of reality. But don’t worry, when all the moving vans are out of the way and the city is a ghost-town, there’ll be plenty of street, just for you. Well, I suppose you’ll have to share with the “lower-income newcomers” who haven’t yet mastered the concept of indoor plumbing, but diversity is great, isn’t it?
17, Traffic is a problem because the government controls the roads; and the government is filled with useless incompetent liberals whom have no concept of reality. But don’t worry, when all the moving vans are out of the way and the city is a ghost-town, there’ll be plenty of street, just for you. Well, I suppose you’ll have to share with the “lower-income newcomers” who haven’t yet mastered the concept of indoor plumbing, but diversity is great, isn’t it?
Don’t know about the state. But, here are the population figures for the five boroughs.
Quite an increase from 2000-2008, not sure what this author is talking about.
http://tinyurl.com/ygavqjt
Bloomberg is expecting another million by 2030.
“For the idiots who think we aren’t taxed enough… please, feel free to ante up.”
Wouldn’t Biden regard that as a borderline treasonous statement?
Funny, the time period the article cites is 2000-2008, a time period during which both new york city and new york state are experiencing population growth.
Here are the state numbers, on the right hand side of this wikipedia page.
http://tinyurl.com/yg2y9hm
So, with such high taxes, why is New York’s population growing? Perhaps we get pretty good services for our taxes. Perhaps it’s the high quality and plentiful water that is truly a great asset of New York. I just know I love it here.
Oh, I get what they’re saying now. Higher incomes moving out, lower moving in. Here’s an odd thing, most people’s income increases as they get older. New Yorkers do tend to retire to Florida and southern NJ. So, I bet that is what they’re talking about. Older, richer people retiring or getting closer to retirement and leaving. Young bright people moving in. I think we’ll survive. I wouldn’t leave just yet.
#23, I wouldn’t brag on it too much. The population grew only 2.7% over an 8 year period, or 513,481 new people. There were 803,680 new naturals (births-deaths). The only reason the population grew is due to immigration from foreign countries into NY.
Here is Texas, we grew 6x that with only 90% the foreign immigration. I think I’ll stay here.
That being said, we do have the second largest property tax in the country (right behind NJ).
If I was getting paid serious money, I certainly would not want to live in any large city. This could be the rich moving out after they had reached the top, or as near as they want to get.
The incomers are just the mugs who have found that the only way they can improve themselves is to move as far from anything natural as possible.
#14, StoopidAlphie,
So where is the standard cavalcade of leftists foaming at the mouth, and soiling themselves with rage, trying to explain how this is all Bush’s fault?
Ah, how some love to live up to their name. Remember, this is the NY Post, one of Rupert Murdoch’s rags. Lots of bullshit and little reporting. Next time read the effen article.
Well ge, it must have still been Bill Clinton in office back in 2005.
This is bush’s fault wait i mean the governors/mayors that ran that city.
I think 9-11 had something to do with those figures too. No doubt though its the same problem for California. Jobs are not paying enough and the living costs keep going up. Not to mention crime rate too.
@28 yes that the reality of all this. the cost of living is going up yet we still get payed the same. where i work we got a 2% raise/cost of living raise. That was like 10 cents to most people here. it’s joke
#28 – jescott418,
Not to mention crime rate too.
Crime rates are not a problem in NYC.
http://tinyurl.com/jbmaa