Huffington Post – 10-21-09:

Christina Turner feared that she might have been sexually assaulted after two men slipped her a knockout drug. She thought she was taking proper precautions when her doctor prescribed a month’s worth of anti-AIDS medicine.

Only later did she learn that she had made herself all but uninsurable.

Turner had let the men buy her drinks at a bar in Fort Lauderdale. The next thing she knew, she said, she was lying on a roadside with cuts and bruises that indicated she had been raped. She never developed an HIV infection. But months later, when she lost her health insurance and sought new coverage, she ran into a problem.

Turner, 45, who used to be a health insurance underwriter herself, said the insurance companies examined her health records. Even after she explained the assault, the insurers would not sell her a policy because the HIV medication raised too many health questions. They told her they might reconsider in three or more years if she could prove that she was still AIDS-free.




  1. Fat_Anarchy says:

    Hey, if rape victims want insurance, then when enough of them demand it in a free market then a company will naturally come to fulfil that demand.

    If for whatever reason they are not able to monetarize their plight in a meaningful way then I guess they will just have to suffer, nyuk nyuk nyuk!

    I’d rather every single man, woman and child was raped before I vote for a public option, because abstract ideals and the fact my sense of identity is so weak I attach my ego directly to political philosophies and being “right”, is FAR more important than real life suffering!

  2. SN says:

    1. “Hey, if rape victims want insurance…

    Wow… for a while I actually believed you were serious.

    When right-wing talking points are barely distinguishable from over-the-top satire, it’s pretty clear that the Republican party is in trouble.

  3. Phydeau says:

    #1 That was great satire Fat_Anarchy, you obviously know a libertarian or two. 🙂

    But seriously, example number 4,337 of why the free market model doesn’t work for health care.

  4. bobbo, voting against your own interest is stoopid says:

    Well, the free market model works for what the free market works on: maximizing profit for investors. THAT is what a free market model is.

    So, the question as always is: is healthcare a subject that is proper for the free market to “regulate” and I would hope all good people would agree that it is NOT!!!

    What the repugs, unhumorous fat anarchists, and LIEBERTARIANS everywhere need to recognize is what is plain to see: government coverage provides better healthcare TO ALL PEOPLE, at half the price to all participants.

    If LIEBERTARIAN FREE MARKET idiots would just draw away from the general labels and recognize more of their precious personal disposable income would be available to them under single payer, then the only one’s against SINGLE PAYER would be the insurance companies and their shills.

    Well, single payer will come eventually. Whether 5 years 10 or 20. Its just a matter of how much pain can society absorb before they open their eyes.

    Silly Hoomans.

  5. bobbo, voting against your own interest is stoopid says:

    #5–Faxon==I agree with you. Only virgins should be eligible for health care insurance.

    Now==what about the rest of us?

  6. VeryMeanBastard says:

    Someone raped 45 year old woman?!

    Either those rapist just came out of jail, or she had some strange nightmares…

  7. Phydeau says:

    Looks like Faxon took #1 seriously. So, tough sh*t for her that she might have been exposed to AIDS. No insurance for her. Just go and die already, right, Faxon?

    Jesus, what a f*ckhead.

  8. brm says:

    How did she loose coverage initially?

  9. Phydeau says:

    #9 If you change jobs the new company’s insurance doesn’t have to pick you up. Pre-existing conditions and all that. That’s one thing that should be banned in health care reform.

  10. SN says:

    6. “Now==what about the rest of us?

    Obviously Faxon is only looking out for himself! 😉

  11. Bob says:

    How about have the man who raped her pay for her health care?

  12. Faxon says:

    That’s right. It’s every man for himself, dickwads.

  13. Faxon says:

    It’s soooo easy to get libs’ panties in a knot.

  14. Faxon says:

    #8, Maybe YOU should pay all of her medical expenses if you feel so strongly about it, kiddo.

  15. Phydeau says:

    Sigh… you pleased with yourself, Faxon? Saying stupid things, pissing people off? Wow, that’s impressive. Well, everyone’s gotta have a hobby. And being a pathetic little troll is yours. Knock yourself out, pal. 🙂

  16. Phydeau says:

    Ya know, Faxon, if you had any balls, you’d have a serious conversation, say what you really believe, rather than trying to provoke people. But that takes guts. It’s easier to just fling poop around.

  17. sargasso says:

    Norway.

  18. honeyman says:

    If I could be assured that my tax dollars were contributing to the health care of rape victims, I wouldn’t mind paying my tax so much.

  19. Awake says:

    Hey Faxon, I guess that when it comes to rape, you are one of those true deep thinking Sarah Palin supporters that thinks that a raped woman should pay for her police “rape-kit” herself, and not waste YOUR taxpayer money on something as individual as a rape.

    The truth about the Medical insurance industry is starting to really bubble up, and it looks like what you get from pumping a clogged toilet. And the supporters of the current insurance system are digging in and calling it candy. Faxon is obviously slurping it by the bucket.

  20. Buzz says:

    Insurance company sez:

    Treatment for any life-threatening event is:

    Preexisting condition.

    Thanks for the money every month. Eat spit and die.

  21. Faxon says:

    I love pissing you guys off.

  22. Dallas says:

    Hoping Pres Obama defeats the health insurance industry and their republican supporters.


    I’m glad Obama is considering the nuclear option – take away the health insurance industry privileges of exemption from anti-trust law.

    No more fucking the American consumer. How do you like them apples, say Obama.

  23. brm says:

    #10:

    Yeah, but what about COBRA? Shouldn’t you keep your old plan until you switch to a new one? She must have let her old coverage lapse assuming she’d get let on the new plan.

  24. Angus says:

    The problem is the industry itself. We need to r-eexamine the idea that insurance companies exist at all. The whole industry is based on betting, in that they hope that the consumer will pay more than they benefit from the company. Basing life adn dead situations on a bet seems immoral, and lend itself to these uninsurable situations such as pre-existing conditions.

    If you want to keep insurance companies, that is fine, but you need a medicare type safety net for the “uninsurable”.

  25. LibertyLover says:

    Let’s talk about supply and demand.

    If every adult in the US is given a $100 voucher so they could purchase a single item, say a watch, what you think the prices of watches will do?

    Will they go up or go down?

    If you answer, please include an explanation of why you think it will do that.

  26. Phydeau says:

    Oh lordy… first Faxon the poop flinger, and now LL with his obtuse and inane hypothetical questions. There goes the thread.

    Why can’t you guys just man up and say what you really think?

  27. Dallas says:

    #32 Answer – you’re a goof ball loon.

    The difference between health care and jewelry is so vast, only a goof ball, dumb ass loonie would equate the two.

  28. Phydeau says:

    #34 lol good one Dallas. The libertarians remind me of the old joke: When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. 🙂

  29. Dallas says:

    #30 Alfred1 said . We could carry “not a loon” ID, that can’t be counterfeited

    Good luck getting anyone to issue you one. Maybe some Chinese outfit because I’m not entirely sure Kinko’s will allow you to make one.

  30. Mr. Fusion says:

    Well thank you Alfred. That makes for three idiots posting bullshit.

    So if Jesus can overturn tables, why can’t Pat Robertson walk on water? And if Jonah lived for three days in the stomach of a whale ( a physical impossibility) why didn’t Methuselah ever show his Birth Certificate?

    Would being fables have anything to do with your bullshit?


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