The U.S. government is expecting delivery starting this week of enough doses of the new swine-flu vaccine for nearly every American who wants it, but state and local budget cuts coupled with limits on who can administer the vaccine could hamstring the campaign.
A big question is how many people will actually want the vaccine amid concerns that it has been rushed to market and could produce side effects, as well as a sense among some that the disease isn’t serious enough to warrant seeking a shot.
The CDC is rolling out a media campaign to promote vaccination, with ads expected on buses in Chicago, Dallas and several other cities within the next two weeks. One will remind pregnant women that “flu can harm you and your baby” and urge them to get shots both against seasonal flu and the H1N1 influenza.
Healthcare people have no choice. The burden is higher for them than for others. They will need to be innoculated out of necessity, but this can be documented.
Bobbo, yes NPR can *sometimes* fit that description. I grew up listening to All Things Considered. That said, 9.9/10 they are very well thought out, and bias is easier to detect. Thanks, I’ll check it out.
I’m not an anti-science guy, just one who doesn’t put it up in the Godhood shelf (not saying either of you are as well)
#34–stinker==well, to be fair, I “do” put science up on the Godhood shelf, and for all the reasons others put God there, except it allows me to be free, makes sense, is verifiable, and open to all.
Bobbo,
The shelf is a high one, very high…just not *that* high. I hold science, and thinking in high reguard.
Stinker–I can’t think of a higher shelf so doesn’t that “define” the highest high? In a universe bounded by space, time, and causation?
#12
There is no evidence of inactivated (killed) virus influenza vaccine harming a baby in utero and they have decades of studies to support that. So it seems like a much safer bet than risking the infection.
#22 Flubber did you have some thing to add to the discussion? If not as is demonstrated by your post I’d recommend you hang out on the Fox News Forums you should find those much more comfortable.
#26 theone
I probably will get vaccinated for H1N1 most years I get the general flu shot and all ready did this year. Since I’m a healthy middle-aged man who was around in the 70s the last time a strain like this H1N1 came around I can wait until the “at risk” population has a chance at getting a dose but rest assured when it is my turn I’ll get the shot and probably pay 15 or 20 dollars for the privilege. My wife is a Neonatologist and will be getting vaccinated in the first round with the other caregivers I’ll let you know if it kills her. Funny the Docs have no problem getting vaccinated I wonder what they know?
#38 Esteemed Howard Beale,
oh you were talking sense, and adding to the discussion. Right up to the point you took the swipe at the right to lifers from your soap box.
My bad. Thought you had tourettes.
Flubber #39
Did I take a swipe at them? I thought I was just giving them advice on how not to not look like hypocrites. If they are so concerned with the development a zygote as to make such a fuss about morning-after pill by all logic should insist on flue vaccines. That is if they believe in evidence based medicine.
Now you’re being disengenuous. You come in here and start swinging left and right at the rest of us fools who don’t know what you do. I think you’re far happier hearing yourself talk than anything else.
But what do I know, and what does it matter. You and your high horse amuse me. Your wife is the Medical Professional, but you seem to think it and your opinion makes your words golden.
So what, and maybe my sisters a nurse in a NICU.
ahh, ok why do I bother…
My wife’s and often disagree on many subjects and I have no medical training. My thoughts are valuated only as to quality of there content in what I have printed of each post.
Did you want to discuss the apparent hypocrisies of not insisting on expecting mothers being vaccinated? I’d be against mandatory vaccinations but why would right to lifer not insist on it? That would be consistent. Just asking
#39, flubber,
Howard Beale made a very correct assessment and asked a very timely question. From your disagreement with him, I can only assume you are a No-Choice supporter and thus scum of the earth.
So what, and maybe my sisters a nurse in a NICU
Sure, but isn’t your sister an only child?
ahh mr. fusion, your username is apt. you never resist the chance to pick a fight do?
Good night.
Bobbo,
Checked out the NPR article. Very good and informative. I do tend to think people over vaccinate. Wonder if its the thinking of getting a pill for everything.
#45–Stinker==glad you liked it. course, lots of unanswered questions, guess not all questions can be “the most asked?”
I can’t imagine how anyone can be “over vaccinated.” That notion only highlights a failure to understand what a vaccination is. As far as I know, no vaccination is a pill.
I would counter that if there is a beneficial pill for something that anyone is subject to, then yes, that pill should be taken. THAT is not to be confused with taking pills for conditions you don’t need treatment for.
Many of the same words, but not the same idea at all.
#46 bobbo, well when I say ‘over vaccinated’ I think of things like the Chicken Pox vaxination. Does a child need that?? No I say expose them. I had it when I was 7. A day home from school, thats it. Now for an adult who’s not been exposed (very dangerous) they should get the vaccine. But why not let the body do its thing (in the way of Tea Parties for example) to get kids innoculated? Thats how Measles and Mumps used to be taken care of. The body is more than capable of handling those things.
Now for Polio, German Measles, Rubella, etc and other diseases rightly considered scourges of mankind, I’d say absolutely vaccinate.
There are a whole host of childhood diseases that we should take vaccines for, and I had my child given the Hepititus B vaccine when she was born.
But for things the body can handle? The flu? I’m down for 4 days and then back up, happens once every 2-3 years. For me, (for *me*) I don’t see the value in the seasonal flu vaccine at this point. Wouldn’t give it to my kids *automatically* either. But I wouldn’t stop my wife if she wanted to. So…there you go. 🙂
I try to maintain a sense of rational thinking on this. 🙂
I don’t subscribe to a ‘pill for everything’ philosophy. If I was in school today I’d for sure be diagnosed as ADD, and took Ritalin for 2 years in elementary school. But I’ve learned to deal with it, and harness it.
So while medicine can be a help, and a wonderful thing, and it is a modern miracle, there are areas where I think it can get over applied. I think as a society we’re straying to the Hypocondriac side of the scale.
That is great that the vaccines have finally arrived. Hopefully, there will be no more deaths because of the swine flu.