From NPR’s Planet Money, who does one of the best economy podcasts. So where are the Asians on the chart?




  1. bobbo, liberal, conservative and pragmatic says:

    GC==what’s F-uped about this?

    I suspect it is wrong==certainly Blacks make more money selling crack than Mexican’s make mowing yards?

    More important, with a greater difference, is the “net worth” of different groups.

    All a nice mix of race, culture, family, trends.

    Note all three trending up with the bubble and the recent downturn?

  2. Larry Bud says:

    Hmmm, I see a a vast stagnation from 2000-2008, weird.

  3. Tim says:

    What did you expect too see? Why don’t you post some Education graphs while your at it.

  4. bobbo, liberal, conservative and pragmatic says:

    The performance of Asians should also always be posted. They run counter to so many trends “observed” when only blacks and Hispanics are included.

  5. Hal says:

    Holy cow! Now I know why I’m white. Thank you Jesus.

  6. Mac Guy says:

    What about interracial couples? Where do my Hispanic wife and my lily-white ass fit in?

  7. Troublemaker says:

    Not even keeping pace with inflation and headed down to boot.

    I’d like to see a similar chart for the top 2%.

  8. LibertyLover says:

    And the interracial, mixed race couples! (my wife is part Cherokee).

    It is interesting to note the relatively flat income level (10% over the time period).

    Inflation was over 50% during that same time period (not counting food and energy, though 🙂 )

  9. Mike says:

    That graph may show that whites earn more, but it doesn’t indicate why they earn more. Is it just because they’re white? Is it because of education? Language barriers?

    You could have a similar looking graph broken down by ages. I bet 40 year olds earn more than 21 year olds. Is that f’d up too?

    Try reading this: No Excuses: Closing the Racial Gap in Learning by Thernstrom and Thernstrom. It might give you more insight into your graph. Hint: Whites value education more than Hispanics who value it more than Blacks.

  10. Mark T. says:

    Mac Guy, um, does your lily-white ass make more money than your Hispanic wife?

  11. echeola says:

    Planet Money is a great podcast. I suggest that you guys listen to it.

  12. round_guy says:

    Look up the census numbers. Asian Americans really
    are “off the chart” shown here.

  13. AdmFubar says:

    OMG!!! I dont even register on this “chart”!

  14. Awake says:

    Don’t you all know that you shouldn’t listen to NPR… it is completely biased… instead you should be listening to Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh for their unbiased wisdom about everything.

    Seriously though, if you are interested in current economics, you should make Planet Money one of your main listens. 15 minutes daily explaining economic theory and current events and facts at a level that we can all understand. Really good radio / podcast. If you have time for Dvorak’s podcasts, you certainly have time for this. Just a couple of days ago they covered tariffs… very enlightening.

  15. Skulhedface says:

    The African- American and Hispanic income levels seems a little high…

  16. George says:

    Here is a different graph from census.gov giving a taste of what the missing data would look like.

    http://census.gov/hhes/www/income/img/hhold2.gif

    Asians are the highest earning group. They must be oppressing everyone.

  17. Alfredo Sauce says:

    Asians are less geographically dispersed and they are under-represented in economically depressed regions and over-represented in areas with high cost of living and higher median incomes. They also make up less than 5% of the U.S. population. African Americans and Hispanics make up 15% of the population, each. These two groups also have sizable populations in the South, which has lower than average median incomes. Including Asians on this chart creates a false equivalency.

    @Alfred1 No one is making that claim. The chart is only showing that changes in the economy pretty much affect each group equally.

    Also no one takes anyone seriously when they unironically use the phrase “liberal loon.”

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  19. Phydeau says:

    Correlation is not causation. Which is the cause and which is the effect, is not always clear, grasshopper.

  20. jccalhoun says:

    Liberal lunacy demands there be victims…so the opposition can be demonized…and logical fallacy…

    To illustrate, every Obama speech has elements of both devices…

    And posts by ultraconservatives never claim they are victims or demonize everyone who disagree with them and their logic is always impeccable even if they don’t know what logic is…

  21. Faxon says:

    Asians are taking over the world.
    Whites are happy doing well.
    Mexicans don’t pay taxes.
    Blacks are lazy welfare bums.
    So?

  22. Faxon says:

    #23 “Correlation is not causation”
    How about this…. no workie, no payie.

  23. deowll says:

    Wonder what the most frequently occurring would look like? I know we have an elite and a much larger blue collar working class that isn’t prospering.

  24. smittybc says:

    As a former economics professor I can tell you that we don’t spend a lot of time dealing with this sort of information. I wouldn’t classify this as an economic report. Disparity of income is more something to be dealt with by a sociologist or political scientist. Economists usually understand that in a capitalist system you have two distinct choices with individual income; equality of outcome or economic freedom. You can’t have both.

    The second thing that’s troubling is the obsession with racial groups by said sociologists and political scientists. Where I used to teach, a public university, about 1/3rd of the student population was classified as “Asian”. By the university, that is, not by themselves. Mostly, they were Koreans, divided into religious (mainly identified themselves as Baptist) and secular camps, who had the audacity to call themselves Americans. This “block” of Korean-Americans, culturally and politically, are very unlike Chinese-Americans, who are nothing like Filipino-Americans, who are completely different from Japanese-Americans, who have very little in common with Indian-Americans, who are absolutely distinct from Vietnamese-Americans. And so on and so forth. But all are classified by the sociologists as “Asian”.

    The one big thing that I get from such a graph is no matter what you do as a “cultural group”, make sure you never let the Democrats get their hooks into you. It looks like giving the Democrats 90% of your vote is the worst choice of all available, whatever political party happens to be in power.

  25. ECA says:

    really WANT TO MESS THIS UP?

    MAKE wages for janitors, THE SAME, accross the USA.
    Make wages for FLOOR PEOPLE, ALL the same..
    Make WAGES for Customer service, ALL THE SAME..
    SALE persons across the USE to get ALL the same wages as OTHER sales persons.

    This only means that THOSe in NY, get the same wages as those in PENDLETON OREGON..
    now THINK HARD..
    Either those persons in Pendleton GET RAISES..
    OF those on NY, get CUTS..if they get CUTS, then PRICES have to go down to COMPARE to what is in OTHER AREAS..

    What a WAY to balance COST OF LIVING..an WHY it costs more for the SAME in another town..

  26. noname says:

    # 29 ECA,

    You got my vote.

    When you commute back and forth between Pendleton and NY I think you should get the same janitor wage!

    Tell the boss, noname said so.

  27. Traaxx says:

    Yeah 2000-2008 the Great Globalization of the economy, any connections there.

    I’d like to see one based on income of welfare checks. One on who pays taxes. One on STD vs. income. One on lifestyle vs income, etc. Now that would be more interesting..this is just BS.

    Whatever……………………………
    Traaxx

  28. noname says:

    Over the last year it looks like all groups are beginning to converge on income equality, that is, 0$.

    Way to be globally competitive Americans, work for free. We’ll show those Chinese who can work harder for less or nothing. We don’t need no stinking environmental or worker protection laws

    On a more serious note, the graph says more then half of American’s make less then 50K (even the one’s who have the audacity to call themselves Americans as
    # 28 smittybc said).

    All this does not bode well for Americans. America can’t finically support a market where the Median housing prices double, like it did between 1998 and 2006 while their incomes went up briefly 15%. People did this because people thought their house would pay for itself. Now current projections are that 48% of mortgage holders could owe more on their homes than the property is worth by the first quarter of 2011. Then on top of that all the credit card debt that Americans have, because they mistakenly thought their houses would increase in value.

    My question is, why is the stock market approaching 10k when the consumer is not consuming??

  29. Angus says:

    More proof that race is an issue in the US. But, in my mind, the fact that people on the left keep coming up with this kind of stuff mean they’re way more obsessed with it that right wingers.

  30. qb says:

    When an article shows up that could be perceived as reflecting poorly on whites the right wing types bring out the “racist” and “fairness” complaints. If I didn’t know better I’d say they were 60’s style liberals.


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