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Weekend Reading: Gov’t 2009 National Drug Threat Assessment
By John C Dvorak Saturday August 22, 2009
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re: #33, Damn, that should be coca leaves.
Improbus, I have no problem with pot or its occasional use if that’s your desire, but allowing the wholesale distribution of cocaine and heroin would be disastrous. Bobbo keeps citing alcohol as a comparison. Alcohol is legal, but I don’t see many people distilling their own whiskey, vodka, or gin. They would rather pay the high price and get a better product. Same with cocaine. It’s not easy to make. Decriminalizing it’s distribution might make it cheaper, but drug lords would still have a big stake and the destruction it would cause would be extremely expensive to everyone. Try making cocaine when you are stoned all the time.
#33–Jimmy the R==I said “by memory” that means I don’t care enough to look it up because it is off point.
But I used to be a big gardener and currently grow about 10 different herbs. You are telling me illiterate poor Afghan farmers can grow fields of poppies, but I can’t? What skill/knowledge/environmental requirements would I be lacking??? My neighbor down the street is Afghan. Could he not grow it either???
Whatever. The original issue was comparing the nature of the harm caused by the illegality of drugs compared to the harm caused by making drugs legal.
What you see with legal alcohol is lots of people with small wineries as the barrier to entry is quite low. I’ve made my own beer. Yes, I’d rather buy it and my town has many micro-breweries.
Same with the other drugs.
When they created that map, they forgot to put the biggest arrow of all, labeled “DEMAND” flowing from the US to all those countries.
We want it, we get it, no matter what the price. It’s the miracle of capitalism.
What’s our vector, Victor?
Sigh, Bobbo I said nothing about poppies. I grow several varieties myself.
The more sophisticated drugs, however, will still be made by those with connections and the drug lords will survive.
Interesting that you are using poppies as an example though. Poppies are easy and legal to grow. Opium poppies are widely grown here and nothing is said because of their ornamental use. Opium doesn’t even make the top 10 most dangerous drugs.
Bottom line, I don’t think throwing a drug addict in jail merely for procession is meaningful, just as you.
A dealer?.. yes and throw away the key.
Legalize the use of heroin, barbiturates, cocaine, methadone and the like? … no way in hell.
I really don’t want to be at odds with you Bobbo, we aren’t all that different in our beliefs on just about everything else.
A truce and tolerate each other?
Whatever… I really didn’t expect you of being capable of such maturirty.