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#1 Alex
Right. Heard you the first time.
Gov’t 2009 National Drug Threat Assessment.
I am truly frightened by this report and our country must continue to keep all drugs illegal so the violence, death and mayhem can continue.
Without violence, death and mayhem I will cease to be frightened and just might question the waste of law enforcement/prison dollars to fight such a senseless drug war that fails year after year to solve any problems.
This would disrupt the money flow to said entities thus putting solid American citizens with children out of work. I hope the government has the wisdom to continue the violence, death and mayhem so the children remain safe.
They forgot to mention that the biggest drug threat to citizens is incarceration and persecution by law enforcement. This document is clearly a blueprint aimed at maintaining illegal drug profits for those in the chain.
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Battle for the Republic
Tool no doubt used by Pentagon
I’ve changed my mind.
The first 5 times I read his bio as spammed elsewhere in multiple threads, I thought he was blogging to catch “CHICKS” ((“Chicks Man” re Talk Soup–best show on TV))–but now I see it is “CLICKS.”
Now I don’t admire him as much as before. Yes, let’s demand uniformity from all our editors. Variety hurts my brain. He’s a witch==burn him!!!
Allow me to expand on a recent post. Keeping drugs illegal hurts more innocent people than making drugs legal. It goes like this: imagine the number of people coaxed into addiction by those who have an economic incentive to hook them==innocent victims. Imagine the happy home owner burglarized by addicts to get the money for a dose==innocent victims. Imagine a kiddle shot by a stray bullet by gangs maintaining their drug territory==innocent victims. Imagine entrie countries subverted by the drug culture so that you can’t trust the police==innocent drug victims.
Now, imagine drugs are legalized. The only ones being hurt are those CHOOSING TO TAKE DRUGS.
Isn’t choice and responsibility therefore the American/Thinking/moral way?
I think so. ((The first to post the bumper sticker response gets a *bad* star.))
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What about the threat of alcohol? And where are we going to put those 35 million drug users? We don’t have enough prisons! And why are the LSD numbers so low? LSD is much much easier to smuggle! Prohibition never works. We need to legalize now!
I found it amazing that Heroin production in Afgahnistan has nearly tripled since we’ve been there. WTF.
“Keeping drugs illegal hurts more innocent people than making drugs legal. It goes like this: imagine the number of people coaxed into addiction by those who have an economic incentive to hook them==innocent victims.
The reason your reasoning fails Bobbo, is that you use the word “drugs” generically. Most drugs are already legal. Try using the real description of what you want to make legal…. “personally and societally destructive drugs that have little or no beneficial or redeeming qualities”. Legitimate drug companies aren’t going to sell those drugs in drugstores. Scumbags will still make it, and sell it, and still make obscene profits.
“Imagine the happy home owner burglarized by addicts to get the money for a dose==innocent victims.”
… no change. you are assuming the prices will drop enough to make a dose cheap. Ya, sure… the drug cartels will allow that to happen.
“Imagine a kiddle shot by a stray bullet by gangs maintaining their drug territory==innocent victims. “
… no change… possibly exasperated as the ease of exporting becomes attractive
“Imagine entrie countries subverted by the drug culture so that you can’t trust the police==innocent drug victims.”
… no change… possibly worse as the threat of being caught is removed… more people will want to get in on it… more suspicion… more justified suspicion.
Those types of drugs are nothing but destructive to everyone in society. They are the type of things that should be banned for a healthy society… as just one of many attacks to curtail their use. Inviting them in is simply preposterous and self destructive.
Oops, my post #12 is directed at Bobbo’s post #5.
Tthe map shown makes me think of the similarity of what a map showing guns coming into Canada from the USA would look like.
#14 Does Canada manufacture guns? No? Then, they have to import them, don’t they? Does Mexico manufacture guns? No? Same thing. Thank god I don’t have to depend on Mexico for firearms!
Faxon, wrong on both counts. Canada does manufacture guns, but not many. No, I’m wasn’t talking about legal gun imports in post #14. I was referring to the shit that kills innocent Canadians in crimes. Take your head out of the sand.
I am big fan of this blog, but since a couple of weeks this guy Guilherme Cherman has been trolling posts on a daily basis including fake comments.
I have googled him and discovered that is a brazilian teenager with big “opinions” about usa politics and has written an electronic book called “Ganhe Dinheiro Com Seu Blog – Guilherme Cherman” translated: make money with your blog, which is an idiotic manual of dirty tricks to catch clicks and make money with publicity.
Please Mr Dvorak or Uncle Dave stop this nonsense spam and suggest him to put back his inane “posts” in one of the many blogs he has in Brazil.
#12–Jim==how will marijuana and cocaine maintain a high price when both can be grown in my garden?
If you ever come to actually understand what I clearly wrote, the societal harm comes from the drugs being illegal. So clear, you must be spinning on purpose. And thats how the politico’s/anti-drug interests maintain their cover.
What makes all the harm we saw with prohibition of alcohol any different from any other drug? Or more pointedly, society came to understand repealing prohibition for alcohol WITH its attendant problems was much better for society than keeping it illegal. Why does this same logic not apply to all other drugs?
Is it SO clear that 50% ((I’ve read up to 80%)) of prisons being used to house “drug offenders” makes sense? Is there any societal harm caused by locking up people with addictions?
#7 Pedro
Didn’t say the only threat. Just the biggest.
MJ is the least of our troubles, and anyone can get it easily already. Cocaine is a dangerous, complex process and also can’t be grown in more temperate latitudes.
Your logic in comparing alcohol and MJ with drugs like cocaine, heroin, methadone and barbiturates is just ridiculous. It’s like comparing a pin prick with getting shot in the head. A few percentages of people can become addicted to alcohol… 100% can become addicted to heroin.
re:”Is there any societal harm caused by locking up people [in prisons] with addictions?”
Did I say that was a good idea anywhere? … Locking up dangerous users in detox centers might be a good way to go, but that has nothing to do with legalization.
Legalization of the really bad stuff is just a really stupid idea. Alcohol makes life bad enough as it is and I rarely drink that poison.
Also, re#17, bobbo If you ever come to actually understand what I clearly wrote,…”
Why is it that when someone disagrees with you, you think it must be that they are too dumb to understand your superior wisdom?
I understood you perfectly, and thats how I came to disagree with you… a simple concept. You often have interesting and informative posts Bobbo, but your superiority complex just takes the shine off.
#20 JimR
The biggest problem with being addicted to heroin is its illegality and high cost. Many people, who have decent incomes, can maintain a heroin (or cocaine, speed etc) addiction and remain a (relatively) normal citizen.
I’m not saying that maintaining an addiction to these drugs is desirable, I believe in all things in moderation, but that their illegality is causing more harm than the addiction itself.
Drug use is not evil or immoral. Its normal human behaviour. Building a prison society propped up by drug offenders is clearly immoral and evil.
they are closely related.
#21–JimR==”Why is it that when someone disagrees with you, you think it must be that they are too dumb to understand your superior wisdom?
I understood you perfectly, //// Then you did not argue perfectly. I said “A” you said “Not A” as if “A” was never said. I you understood perfectly, then you have the opportunity to argue perfectly by saying “You are wrong about “A” for the following reasons: then you list them.
Easy. And, yes, I am superior. Superior in many ways. Each ratchet on the cog secured by making a mistake and learning from it, usually by some kind soul pointing out the error and telling me how to do better and that I could do it.
I sense YOU can do better JimR. Now, give it a try?
Where is that line “pomposity?” Always good to know where those pesky lines are.
Ya know it takes a lot of some special chemicals, besides the plants they grow down there, to make these drugs. And most of them come from just a handful of industrial chemical manufacturers, who are all known to governments worldwide. And yet, little (or nothing) is done to control the flow of these solvents and such, to these south american drug cartels. Apparently its only illegal to traffic in the finished product. But a good, high profit business (to be protected), to traffic in the components.
This sh*t will only end when we get serious and make drug abuse more unpopular than doing one’s taxes or visiting the dentist (or makeup school work, during summer). But the entertainment media still glamorizes it all, in movies and music (gangster rap?). They’re still keeping what killed Michael Jackson, a big mystery. To protect their music sales profits, no doubt. Just like they did of Elvis and Morrison. Always protecting a bottom line, rather than the health of everyone else, by softening the blow of drug abuse of various celebrity idols.
24 Glenn E.
“This sh*t will only end when we get serious and make drug abuse more unpopular than doing one’s taxes or visiting the dentist (or makeup school work, during summer)”
Unfortunately for your argument, taking drugs is (mostly) fun. Good luck with that.
Drug abuse, on the other hand, is like TV abuse, computer game abuse and hamburger abuse. Its bad for you.
This sh*t will only end when we get serious and make drug abuse more unpopular than doing one’s taxes
The energy crises will only end when we get serious and make wasting energy more unpopular than doing one’s taxes, or
The water crises will only end when we get serious and make wasting water more unpopular than doing one’s taxes.
Do you see the rather empty content of your approach? BECAUSE====I rather enjoy doing my taxes each year. I get it wrong and a penalty each year, but I still enjoy it.
This sh*t will only end when we get serious and make laws on issues that have great popular support. ie, stop making popular activities illegal. Let people be free to screw up their own lives rather than the government doing it for them.
No mention of CIA, that means the report is fake. All the reports I have read regarding illegal drugs state: “CIA has a long history in illegal drugs business…”. I have to mention that those reports talk about international money laundering and arms sales, but drug production/trafficing is how lot of that money is generated.
@bobbo, of many zingers
I rather enjoy doing my taxes each year. I get it wrong and a penalty each year, but I still enjoy it.
That explains a lot. You are a masochist.
#28–Improb==not really. It just amuses me what with my education, love of reading, and quite a few accounting classes, AND a fairly simple income/expense portfolio that I CAN’T FILE A LONG FORM RETURN.
So, every year by doing my own taxes, I get real world reinforcement as to how F’ed Up our government is. Keeps it real for me whenever I think: “What we really need is a good government program==as in health care.”
Its my sense of humor.=====as so much of what I post is.
Bobbo, as usual you sidestep the issues when confronted. You say cocaine will be grown/made in backyards. I say the process is too dangerous and complicated for that to happen. You say… nothing… to counter point, but instead resort to insults, misinformation about my posts, and self worship.
Typical of a fraud, and not worthy of my respect. Every time I attempt to have a reasonable discussion with you, I am disappointed in your lack of evidence and ability (or willingness) to actually defend your sometimes very weak arguments.
So in lieu of that, I won’t bother with you any more.
Hah, hah. Poor ol’ JimR. I guess you really don’t know what the subject of a sentence is or the theme of a paragraph?
Without trying to find your specific reference in the pile of dead red herrings, I do recall saying that high prices could be kept down by growing MJ and Poppies in my garden. I can see doing that for MJ because it is a nice looking plant, and maybe for brownies, but my pink lungs are for breathing sweet non-polluted air. Still, home grown MJ would provide quite a high percentage of the market.
As to Poppies==I was really thinking of growing the leaves to suck on as an appetite suppressant. But again==should the market price get too high, again the home-grown could provide some price competititon.
IF there was a lot of violence surrounding alcohol and tobacco production today, I would be concerned of your issue. As there is no such element, your concerns don’t rise to legitimate.
JimR==don’t learn from the kind souls around you who offer help. Stay just the perfect way you are.
If you can grow pot you don’t need to grow anything else. Seriously, it is easier than brewing beer or fermenting wine.
Bobbo, Re wher you said: “how will marijuana and cocaine maintain a high price when both can be grown in my garden?”
Now you are changing it to “growing MJ and Poppies in my garden.”
See how dishonest you are? You can fool some people Bobbo, but now but your thin facade is more transparent than ever.
And by the way, you can try if you like, but you can’t grow cocaine… cocoa leaves maybe… if you can manage the growing conditions.