I think the gun mavens are too paranoid about this bill, but it is very onerous towards anyone who has any sort of firearm. Besides the tax on all guns owned one of the riders floating around makes it so you will have to list all your guns every year on your income tax form. This bill stems from a gang shooting that killed an honor student in Chicago. Does anyone think that the provisions in this bill would have kept a gun out of the hands of the gang member? It makes no sense. There seems to be a desire to leave the public helpless while gang members are armed to the teeth. How is that good? This bill was introduced earlier this year and now seems to be finally getting some attention.
Found by Keith Ray.
Make guns illegal.
Then only criminals will have guns. ((and cops)).
Then, cops shoot anyone with a gun on sight.
That would work for me.
The Mexicans have zero tolerance gun control and what do they have? Narco-paramilitary squads killing cops, military and civilians. 10,000+ dead and counting. eluniversal.com.mx/nacion/166613.html
How difficult would it be, to make bullets with a half life? A slow release oxidizer or a biological additive to the powder or cordite, to make the bullet non-lethal after, maybe three years? Just asking.
A good quote from the video: “The extremes define the middle.” Think about that next time you claim to be a “moderate” on something. When you say that, you’re basically saying you’re letting the extremes define your position for you.
Get the facts and define your own position.
Where were the armed Citizens that were supposed to protect the Honor Student? your neighbor having a gun is not going to protect you from a drive by.
A good quote from the video: “The extremes define the middle.” Think about that next time you claim to be a “moderate” on something. When you say that, you’re basically saying you’re letting the extremes define your position for you.
Get the facts and define your own position.
#10 and #13
If you lived in a culture where class distinction is not only tolerated but encouraged and exacerbated by the capitalistic system, and the underclass is angry, hungry, drug addicted and armed you would be a gun owner too.
As we say here, the police are not the “first responders” they only arrive after the violence has happened. The true “first responder” is the citizen that is on the scene at the time of the crime. If you are armed at least you have a chance.
“The right to self protection” is part and parcel of “the right to freedom” in this country.
#2, #16
“You do realize the rest of the world laughs at the US gun culture, right?”
I can’t hear their milquetoast laughs over the sound of America’s awesomeness.
Besides, who gives a flying fornication if they laugh about our Constitutional rights? Clearly they don’t understand the nature of rights and protection from the government.
I certainly don’t find the lack of civil liberties in Great Britain anything to laugh about. I don’t find anything laughable about Australia’s censorship culture (in regards to the internet). I pity them.
So “the world” can continue to laugh at the USA out of ignorance and out of jealousy for all I care.
(c) Purposes- The purposes of this Act and the amendments made by this Act are–
(1) to protect the public against the unreasonable risk of injury and death associated with the unrecorded sale or transfer of qualifying firearms to criminals and youth;
(2) to ensure that owners of qualifying firearms are knowledgeable in the safe use, handling, and storage of those firearms;
(3) to restrict the availability of qualifying firearms to criminals, youth, and other persons prohibited by Federal law from receiving firearms; and
(4) to facilitate the tracing of qualifying firearms used in crime by Federal and State law enforcement agencies.
===
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
fuck’em, who cares whether this passes or not. i dont follow any gun laws now and wont in the future. this shit is funny… you kno old bobby has a gatt and a 40 right now…
I don’t own a gun. Someone stole it a couple of years ago. I didn’t report it because I didn’t want to get in trouble. Sorry.
Fahrenheit 9/11
nuff said!
#9 Ah_Yeah
At least if you are going to quote a story, quote one with a minimum of credibility.
Some guy told some other guy a story, that was then told to some other guy, that I then heard, that an entire family was gunned down in Belgium because they couldn’t produce a single old gun that was supposedly registered to the patriarch of the family.
I’m sure that you can come up with some historical fact, documented somewhere, rather than some fairytale story to backup your claims…. that story is so sappy that they might as well name the old guy Geppetto and the corporal Pinocchio.
i just read about a bill that oulaws fried chicken, has a two day waiting period on watermelon and forces all sweetpotato pie purchases and makes it illegal to privately sell grape juice and 40oz malt liquior.
gold teeth and baggy pants that are worn to show your ass must be registered as well.
“axeing” somebody a question is also going to be outlawed
#45 HA! Methinks you protesteth too much. You know you want to live in my country and it pains you that you can’t (at least for now but there is hope).
Perhaps if you work hard you too can experience American exceptionalism one day. Good luck my friend.
#45, It ain’t perfect but it is my paradise. I wouldn’t trade places with you for 10 million of my soon to be worthless dollars.
#54, how does it feel to be delusional? Enjoy your crumbling empire.
#56 Ah name-calling. It’s completely understandable. If I didn’t live in the greatest nation on Earth I too would be bitter and jealous and prone to striking out at strangers.
Delusional? Perhaps but at least I have a sense of humor.
Go in peace my troubled, non-American friend.
#55 that’s great, you love your country. I respect that. My issue with “Great American” is that he thinks people from other countries makes fun of American gun culture because they’re jealous. That’s deluded thinking.
#57, I call a spade a spade. And you must have a sense of humour to call your country the greatest nation on earth. So you’ve lived in every other nation then, have you?
The law makers couldn’t think of anything they could do to keep guns out of the hands of gangs
(I rather doubt that the gun used was legally owned.) so they did something that is worse than useless so they can claim they did something to fight the problem. Nothing new here.
#59 Of course some of what I say is tongue and cheek. Some. At the same time I think what makes my country special is what de Tocqueville termed American exceptionalism. Some, including those in the States, take issue with that philosophy. So be it. I’ve traveled enough to believe this. Saying I have to live everywhere to compare is a bit much and a faulty notion.
And yes, many are jealous of America for its freedoms (one of which is the Second Amendment).
So I take issue with many who think the Second Amendment is laughable and, by extension, that Americans are foolish for exercising their rights. And you don’t have to be a so-called gun nut to appreciate the Second Amendment just as you don’t have to be a “Bible thumper” to appreciate the First Amendment.
OK, the civics lesson is over…so go out, have fun and remember you too could be here one day as part of the greatness.
Here’s an idea (the NRA will absolutely HATE!). They use to talk about these tiny tagen, that they wanted to add to explosive powders, in order to trace explosions to who bought the stuff. But it wasn’t practical because the number of tagens released would contaminate the environment with way too many of them. But why not require that all manufactured bullets contain a few tagens, that could be traced to whoever bought them. The great majority of people with guns, don’t make their own. Or know anyone that does make them. And anyone that does, could be jailed for selling untagened bullets, for the purpose of beating the trace. Even hunters and target shooters can’t argue that they need untagened bullets to enjoy their sport. And every time some damn gang goes spraying a community with bullets, to prove how fearful they are. They’ll leave a traceable trail off bullet sales. No gun barrel records needed. Besides, those can be altered after purchase. And not cleaning the gun, causes it to change too. But tagging the bullets, in a way that survives its use. Ties its use to is purchaser.
Anyone doing straw purchase sales of bullets for gang members, will get what they deserve when the cops come calling. It would be worth the risk to them, for the tiny profit of a box of bullets. And they’ll rat out the customers. And even the NRA, can’t argue that untampered bullet sales are protect by the US Constitution. Why would they object to tracing bullets that kill people? This is a no brainer solution.
And I’ll bet they could redesign bullets to be tougher to take apart, without destroying their charge or the shell. So gangs can’t just yank out the tagged bullets, and slip in sloppily made ones. Got to be easier that redesigning the guns themselves.
“It WOULDN’T be worth the risk to them, for the tiny profit of a box of bullets.”
Sorry that typo slipped by me. Hope you got my meaning from the context.
Domestic bank accounts are insured by the FDIC and they are known by the IRS.
Automobiles are registered by state governments in a huge database that the Feds can search.
Deeds of land and houses are databased by county governments and are over 90% searchable for FREE on the internet. With your name, your spouse (most times) and your physical and mailing address (in case you don’t live at the site and rent it).
Births, marriages, divorces, adoptions, bankruptcies, arrests and deaths are all public knowledge as mandated by law.
Now tell me why registering your firearm is any more onerous or dangerous than any of these other things we allow in the government hands? Especially seeing how much of our personal land and homes with street addresses are available for FREE on the net?
Cursor_
#65–cursor==first bad post I have seen you make. “Now tell me why registering your firearm is any more onerous or dangerous than any of these other things we allow in the government hands?” /// Because the fear is the Government will use the list to come and get your guns. And thats legitimate. Going to serve a warrant? Do a computer check first.
Also, on those issue you list, just be coincidence, the ownership/status of those things benefit from registration. Not so with guns.
Note to Everyone, don’t use #’s anymore, over time the numbers change and everyone is confused.
Maybe use the approximate # and include the name and few word snippit of what they said.
I’m just sayin’
What am I sayin?, wordpress or the blog or who knows what is going on… when there are a lot of comments going through the pipe the numbers change.
Could be a glitch or the “kind-of-captcha” or whatever.
Regardless, if you’re gonna talk crap about someone’s comment… I wanna be able to tell whose comment you are talking about.
In closing, If you state the name of the poster and the approximate # of the comment you are talking about… and a few word indicator of the post you are talking about… I can read and tell if you are either a dummy, or “spot on”
“In a perfect world” … whatever… Again, I’m just sayin…
In a perfect world we would all be able to understand what we are reading.
#64 – Ah_Yea
Your story is still fake.
Read this quote from your fake story:
This puts the story near the blitzkrieg on the Low Countries (May, 1940), correct? As I’ve told you before, no SS units took part in the attack on Belgium. And as for your “proof”… they’re all references to events that happened long after the attack:
Your 1st link: You even posted the time period yourself… June 1943 – Mar 1944
Your 2nd link: The references to the 1st SS being 20,000 strong was in June 1944.
Your 3rd link: The predecessor to the 5th/28th SS was formed in August 1941.
Your 4th link: The Battle of Narva was in 1944.
Sometimes it’s better to just accept that you’ve been fooled by a fake story than posting a stupid reply that shows off your ignorance.