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I’m sure the guy in the plane was “texting” that seems to be the meme lately.
By the way, NBC, I believe it is, their embedded video doesn’t work well at all. Clear picture but won’t play all the way through without choking, tried it a few times.
Yeah, same problem here. They should just have uploaded their video to YouTube. It’s not like it won’t end up there anyway.
Worst streaming video I’ve ever seen. Here’s another link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=616yd6cgJHE
Just an amateur’s impression: low wing a/c overtaking a helicopter flying beneath it. The “expert” in the video said that avoidance equipment would have given a 6 mile warning and that it was pretty common? Maybe in a commercial airliner, but not in a four place private airplane.
Everybody with “high time” is not an expert in all things aviation.
Its called “uncontrolled airspace” for a reason.
As usual bobo the clown chimes in making no sense.
Learn how to write a sentence that makes sense please
Just an amateur’s impression: low wing a/c overtaking a helicopter flying beneath it. /// ie–fixed wing guy could not see the helicopter because his own wing was in the way, and the helicopter could not see the a/c as the a/c was behind it. Normally, pilots look out in front of themselves.
The “expert” in the video said that avoidance equipment would have given a 6 mile warning and that it was pretty common? Maybe in a commercial airliner, but not in a four place private airplane. /// Aircraft avoidance equipment is not common today even in advanced aircraft. Just trying to be lenient.
Everybody with “high time” is not an expert in all things aviation. /// Just like myself. Its not the aviation part I’m unsure of, its the video angle, lens compression, angles of approach, other activities going on, radio calls etc. Only an asshat would assume they “know” whats going on from such a limited piece of information. Thats why the expert went off on a tangent.
Its called “uncontrolled airspace” for a reason. //// Meaning ground controlled radar is not keeping track of aircraft and vectoring them away from each other.
Hope that helps.
The pilot in the helicopter never knew what hit him. The airplane came up from behind, and just at the moment that the airplane pilot noticed the helicopter, he tried to turn to avoid, actually dipping his wing into the helicopter blades during the panic turn. It seems like the pilot of the plane was taken just as much by surprise by the helicopter in front of him, probably distracted watching the scenery or maybe the helicopter was in a blind spot.
Bobbo is correct. Collision avoidance systems are not designed to work in this kind of situations. Basically those types of systems are designed for long range “constant bearing, decreasing range” situations, where if the two planes keep going straight, they will meet at a certain point in the sky, or at least intrude in each other’s bubble of proximity allowance.
There is one uncontrolled Visual Flight Rule (VFR) corridor on each side of Manhattan, where small aircraft fly by the rule of “watch where you are going”, generally under 1200 feet of altitude. About 50,000 airplanes and helicopters fly those routes every year… it’s surprising that this type of crash doesn’t happen more often. Near misses happen all the time, but are not reported by the media. On weekends there are loads of amateur pilots flying that route taking in the scenery, pilots that don’t have the experience to have developed the sixth sense of traffic avoidance.
Small commercial airlines fly the same routes, but at higher altitudes and under control of the tower… it’s down below that the danger is eminent.
who ever encoded that video, SUCKS..
As it turns out, the air traffic controller responsible for this area was having an “inappropriate conversation” on a telephone as the crash happened. He has been suspended and his fate will be determined by an FAA investigation. The supervisor of this controller was also suspended for not being on site as required by law. He also has been suspended and faces disciplinary charges. Playing the blame game early makes people look stupid.
Come on John, you should know better than put a Local only video link up
Remember the olden days when we were repulsed by even the idea of watching a “snuff film”?
Only sick fucks would enjoy watching someone die, right?
Nowadays we casually watch nine people die and use the pictures to sell useless crap during commercial breaks — and as an excuse to make smartass remarks on blogs, of course.
Humans. Finestkind!
Yesterday in changing lanes, I turned to look into the other lane. When I looked ahead the car in front had come to a complete stop. I only avoided it by swerving into the other lane. The plane pilot never saw the chopper. He might have been pointing out a landmark or otherwise distracted. We’ll never know.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rYnJy8yDkac
#9: He didn’t. I did. And what’s wrong with Locals Only, other than crappy video quality?
#5 bobbo
Most of us understood it the first time through but thanks for being thorough.
Thanks Diesel. Yep, once you say “low wing a/c descending” you’ve pretty much said it all. Now, “odds are” SB was just making a childish personal attack against me for the same I have given to him on other threads “but” not everyone has flown a/c.
Uncontrolled airspace is scary. I used to fly “IN” the Grand Canyon. The “rule” there is “fly to the right” but every corner you go around could have another a/c coming the other way on your side. Made me so nervous, I quit going beneath the rim.
The “error” both pilots made here was the acted as if they were the only airplane in the sky. Just flew where they wanted to go, intending not to hit anyone “in front of them.” And neither did. “Low wing descending” and “slow a/c overtaken” both did not hit anyone in front of them.
In such airspace, you have to make clearing turns to look below and behind yourself. Makes tourist sick. Failing to do so can get you killed.
Not a snuff flick. An excellent and worthy a/c accident video.
#15
Sure, you’re joking, right? That’s why the media re-ran it a thousand times? All the viewers were just fucking fascinated by the technical aspects of an excellent and worthy a/c accident video.
Har!
Doesn’t a snuff flick have to show someone dying? An actual BODY getting shreaded or something? Not mechanical structures coming apart.
A building collapsing, or a volcano exploding, or passenger jets hitting the water is just that even if people die. If the video clip shows the image of people dying in any circumstance, then it is eligible for snuff flick status which most often includes close up shots.
Doesn’t a snuff flick have to show someone dying? An actual BODY getting shreaded or something? Not mechanical structures coming apart.
A building collapsing, or a volcano exploding, or passenger jets hitting the water is just that even if people die. If the video clip shows the image of people dying in any circumstance, then it is eligible for snuff flick status which most often includes close up shots.