Is US CIO Vivek Kundra a Phony?
Copyright by John C. Dvorak

UPDATE

Is US Chief Information Officer (CIO) Vivek Kundra a Phony?

This is the sort of question you might ask after trying to actually verify his supposed MS in Information Technology from the University of Maryland, College Park campus. The registrar has no record of it. After initially posting this article the degree has cropped up apparently at the nearby University Campus in 2001. This was found by Nextgov.Com. But his degree in biology has yet to appear as his record shows a degree from College Park Campus for Psychology and nothing more.

I have queried the White House for clarification and still have received no response. The internet has answered the MS question. But other issues remain. Regarding a number of interesting and questionable facts, most in regard to Kundra’s bio. The most ridiculous is his assertion that he was formerly a CEO of Creostar. While records for this company are hard to come by a small Dun & Bradstreet service did turn up the following information: there was indeed a Creostar in Arlington, VA. It was founded in 2004 with the contact being Vivek Kundra. The last record for the company (online) showed sales of $67,000 with one employee – apparently Kundra, the CEO.

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In fact the only job that I could find within the various Kundra bios was that of a Sales Manager and/or a VP of Marketing at a software firm called Envincible. It was sold in 2004, the same time Kundra set up Creostar. Envincible was a small security software company that sold to Exostar. Note how Kundra used a similar name with Creostar.

Most revealing is a bio of Kundra that was redacted from the Washington, DC municipal site. Luckily it was archived by the web sweeper Archive.org. In that bio Kundra added even more icing to his University of Maryland career saying he “served as an adjunct faculty member at the University of Maryland, teaching classes on emerging and disruptive technologies.”

In a conversation he had with Om Malik he confirms having a teaching job at the University College. I have not verified it, but it’s probably true.

On that old bio he also said he “was with SAIC, providing consulting services at the Health and Human Services (HHS). His work focused on growing SAIC’s $1billion business at the National Institutes of Health (NIH). Kundra has worked on the World Cities Alliance initiative to advance business and economic development in Arlington, Zurich, Paris, Berlin, and Wales. Within the private sector, he worked with multiple clients to build operations in the United States, Canada, and India.”

He finishes with “He received his master’s in information technology and his bachelor’s in psychology and biology from the University of Maryland.” The biology bachelor’s comes and goes from his bio, but the University has no record of his biology degree either.

I first suspected something was fishy about this fellow by listening to him on CSPAN where he simply did not sound like someone who studied computers or technology. His common referrals to Twitter and Google Docs as some sort of high-tech breakthroughs and a way to save money and empower the public stemmed from pure cornball pop culture and the blogosphere, not from computer science or Information technology.

During one of his testimonies before a Congressional committee he even talked about the future being something like the Star Trek holodeck. His clichés and commentary was that of a 18 year-old blogger who just got their first Macintosh.

And his sketchy background was disconcerting. It included a 1997 bust for stealing shirts from JC Penny’s and the later bust of his former staff by the FBI at the DC office during a bribery investigation.

But, to be honest about it, and despite the possible fraudulent bios and non-existent degrees, the kicker for me was that even if he was squeaky clean he has no business being the USA CIO controlling billions and billions of dollars in government contracts.

He hasn’t done anything to warrant this appointment. There are no great policy papers. There are no books. There is no invention. There is nothing but vague tech positions in city and state governments. How does this make him a “techno-whiz” as he was portrayed by the New York Times? It took him six years to get a simple undergrad degree in psychology! Was it just because he uses Facebook and likes Twitter?

So what have we got so far from this person? Well, for starters we are looking at the Recovery.gov website that will cost the taxpayers around $18 million. This news was released recently. What websites costs $18 million? And that’s with no warrantee.

The incredibly popular Digg.com, one of the most advanced news gathering sites in the world was initially coded from scratch for between $1200-2500 according to one of its founders. Tools to develop fancy websites have improved drastically over the years and now it costs less for fancy sites, not more. So where is the $18 million going? I can assure you that people who pay attention bugged out their eyeballs at a website expense of $18 million.

Picture actually taken Nov. 2008 after the election. [photo removed by request of JD Kathuria. Can be viewed here.]

The emergence of Kundra is something that needs more research. There is some indication that Kundra got his jobs in Virginia after being recommended by Aneesh Chopra another professional bureaucrat in Virginia who was apparently his friend from campaign work. On one blog there is a pic of Chopra and Kundra at a boxing match with Indian bigwig Shudkaer Shenoy. The photo was taken in 2008 before either of the two men began with the Obama administration. Since then Chopra was given the job as USA Chief Technology Office (CTO).

It would be logical to assume that Kundra managed to get his buddy Chopra the CTO job despite the fact that Chopra’s technology background is essentially nil.

According to the Chopra bio he’s really never done much outside of government committee work. His academic background shows a Masters in Public Policy from Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government in 1997. He graduated with a B.A. from The Johns Hopkins University in 1994. There is virtually nothing about him anywhere on the net. He has zero technology background except for perhaps using an iPOD, and he is now the country’s Chief Technology Officer.

This seems to be a team of self promoters working together. But exactly how they can be given these jobs along with responsibility for actual technology decisions that involve billions of US taxpayer dollars is incredible. And if Kundra has indeed pumped up his bio with BS, then what does that say about the Obama administration in general. After all, this guy was highly promoted by Obama himself.

But who is noticing? While the country is focused on health care protests and other distractions, this sort of betrayal of the public trust must be going on at many levels. I just happened to spot this and with the help of some researchers, namely John Stec, we quickly dug up these anomalies while they were still on the Web. Where was the mainstream media? Where was the right wing media? Is anyone doing due diligence on these important appointees holding the purse-strings to billions? Apparently not.

This lack of oversight in the public interest doesn’t get any better when you look to the technology community itself. You’d think they would be able to spot a phony a mile away. Nobody seemed to notice. In fact the opposite was true as many tech mavens gushed over both men. But why? They each have little to show except odd bragging about supposed improvements to this and that. It’s all vague. Where are the documents? The papers? The reports? They both apparently show up at a lot of meetings and conferences. I have to assume they are quite the charmers.

Look at this excerpt from the USA Today announcement for Aneesh Chopra:

“The response to Chopra is resoundingly positive. Craig Newmark (of Craig’s List) says Chopra is ‘really good for the country.’ Eric Schmidt said in a statement (via WSJ ), ‘Aneesh built one of the best technology platforms in government in the state of Virginia.’ John Doerr of Kleiner Perkins said (also via WSJ ), ‘Aneesh is an inspired appointment. His smarts and experience in technology, health care and investing will serve us well.’ Tim O’Reilly is ga-ga over the choice calling Chopra ‘a rock star’ and says, ‘We couldn’t do better.’”

Really? We couldn’t do any better?

Or do all these guys just think that Obama can do no wrong? O’Reilly, a publisher of books about computer programming, in particular, went into a euphoric fugue with a laundry list of rationales, all clichéd and dubious including classic fuzzy-headed groupthink nonsense such as: “Chopra grasps the power of open source software, Web 2.0, user-participation, and why it’s better to harness the ingenuity of a developer community than to specify complete top-down solutions.”

OK. Am I supposed to down a whiskey now? On his website O’Reilly admits that Chopra is very charismatic.

I hope there is some real explanation for what is going on here. I hope the University of Maryland can find Kundra’s records and show he taught there. I hope he has a biology degree from Maryland. And I hope Kundra can produce some records for his CEO tenure at Creostar indicating that it became a multimillion dollar company that was somehow ignored by Hoovers and D&B once it became successful. I hope the both of these men are not just drinking buddies taking advantage of dummies. I hope.

We did uncover the MS from a related campus with a different record keeping system. That’s a start.

–end

Further details of this investigation will be found there and will be discussed in great detail on the No Agenda Podcast with co-host Adam Curry. No Agenda can be found at http://noagenda.mevio.com and http://noagenda.squarespace.com as well as http://cagematch.dvorak.org.

Speaking requests regarding this story will be accepted by email to john@dvorak.org.




  1. Bobo says:

    The Indian Mafia called India, Inc. strikes again! First they cleaned out Silicon Valley, then Wall St., then Detroit. Now they are going after the last lucrative sector: government contracting. You can bet this fraud will be granting all kinds of billion $ contracts to India, Inc. companies. Maybe he is an India, Inc. plant. Maybe he is working for that scumbag Azim Premji and Wipro. We had better wake up quick America.

  2. SB says:

    #151, Al, for now anyway… Funny Sh**! Seems some comments are getting approved later thus changing the numbering. Kinda sucks if you wanna refer to a previous comment.

    John C. Dvorak on why the Macintosh would fail, San Francisco Examiner, 1984

    Thats funny, someone needs to make a montage of Johns Prognostications! Should be a good laugh.

    Don’t get me wrong, we love ya John!
    Keep up the work Johnny Boy, even if people don’t agree and give you crap it’s great entertainment watching the argument.

  3. PhoneBoy says:

    John, thank you for writing this and getting the facts out there. This is the kind of stuff “the real news” people should be doing, but they’re too busy moaning over the death of Michael Jackson or some celebrity shenanigans I could give a rats ass about.

  4. John L says:

    He has forgotten to mention his wife….. eh….Morgan Fairchild…. yea.. thats the ticket.

  5. Ah_Yea says:

    # 155 pedro,

    I think you’re nailed it.

    That wouldn’t be a first for John. Remember the video he used to have posted here awhile back where he explained how he would rile up Mac users to get hits? First tell them something on the Mac sucked, and then reversed himself, all for hits.

  6. Animby says:

    Chicago politics as usual moving into the Federal gov. Phonies and cronies and lobbyists. Oh my!

  7. Thank you for this article. US citizens need more oversight into both positions of CTO and CIO for the government. For example, I tried to read the documents about the contract award to Smartronix. Many, many of the critical pieces of information about Recovery.org are blacked out in these documents.

    It’s quite clear to me that this project must have outsourced personnel working on it at low costs. Every role and responsibility as well as every cost is blacked out in the documents. Someone has gone through these with a fine-tooth comb. Very Scary.

  8. lavi says:

    #5 I second your opinion and I am Indian. All that you said above is true almost all(90%) of the time in Punjab, India. I cannot say so for other Indian States as I have not lived there.

    My dad, who is 60, had to get a diploma from India for his green card and he got one, 30 years after he claimed to attend the college. Got him his green card! He also needed a fake birth certificate. Got that too.. Everythign is possible in India(Punjab).

    All international universities know about the fact that you can get a “real” fake degree and transcripts from India. They do thorough checks on Indian Students who wish to study in foreign universities.

    Why didn’t the Obamabots do a thorough investigation? Inside man?? OR maybe the “Oh he’s Indian, he must be good with computers…” rationale.

    Good on you DVK for doing your “research”.

  9. Mr. Fusion says:

    #144, Loser,

    *blink*

    Ha ha, made ya blink

    😉

  10. hfidek says:

    i think that your article is now due for an update john some off the information you were seeking have been found and truth has to be made
    and look like kundra his willing to talk about all that but do you want to??
    i feel you have been sucked in adam’s world on this one.
    too bad

  11. Mr. Fusion says:

    #154,

    anyone who has spent the last 25 years (plus) commenting almost daily on the tech industry is bound to have made some very public mistakes.

    Would you mean errors like “We’ll never need more than 64K of memory.” How about the Apple Pippen? Or Lotus Notes.

  12. Phydeau says:

    And I always get a chuckle out of Two-Party Hacks who can’t think outside the square.

    Dude, if you want to dick around with fringe parties like the Greens and the Libertarians, go ahead. But until we change our winner-take-all electoral system to proportional representation, the real power will be with the Democrats and the Republicans. And I say that as someone who would love to see smaller parties have more power.

  13. B.Dog says:

    Thank you Mr. Dvorak for posting a blog entry, and we all hope to see more of these things. Whether or not the appointee is 3 or 4 or 5 orders of magnitude away from being a good choice seems to be where the comments have led.

  14. Poppa Boner says:

    I attended American University and I believe I was the only American there.

  15. Alex says:

    John still has several legitimate questions and worrisome facts about Kundra. Some of these questions still need to be answered.

    It’s amazing that people with bias react so strongly when they catch someone outside their bias in a mistake. John Dvorak takes chances, makes people think in different ways. He puts himself out on a limb. Yes, he makes mistakes. Other tech writers, like John Gruber, are methodical in their writing and look to state only the logical. But give me the Dvoraks over the Grubers anyday. Gruber ‘s writing leads to a vary narrow world view. Gruber rarely asks a question. He dictates. Dvorak’s style makes you examine the world around, makes you wonder if he has a case or not. Invites you to form your own opinion.

  16. jccalhoun says:

    Dvorak needs to stop hanging out with Curry.

  17. deowll says:

    Thank you John. The man’s creds to need to be established. It does appear that CEO may have been slightly disingenuous. The person that ran/worked in a very small business at best.

    At this point his actual job performance may need a close examination and the liberal press is not going to do the job: sorry but they just don’t do news when it comes to Obama.

  18. Al says:

    @Phydeau #169

    You don’t get it sir. He wasn’t commenting on the viability of 3rd parties, but on the overly binary mindset among some people (apparently you are among them). You and many others have been tricked by the elites who rule this country into a sort of faith in a single party and a vilification of the other… the reality is that Republican is not the opposite of Democrat. The only differences are at the margin in fringe issues (and what exactly they waste money on). They use these differences to ferment fear and anger in people like you so you won’t notice we are ruled by a small set of elites.

  19. Mr. Fusion says:

    Reading many of these posts makes me really wonder at the intelligence of Dvorak’s readers. Well, some of them.

    There seems to be quite a few chiding Dvorak for sloppy journalistic work. Why? Because his investigation did not find the second degree. Not because he didn’t look. He looked where the information said he obtained it.

    The posted information was incorrect. Anyone looking where the posted biography said it was would also have been led astray.

    A small error? Maybe. The error though isn’t Dvorak’s. The error belongs to whoever posted the bio, OR, Kundra for not correcting it. The kudos belong to Dvorak for raising the issue of something that didn’t look right to him. I don’t know but maybe there is more here than is readily visible.

  20. Brian says:

    I dunno John, sounds to me like you’re all stretched out on this one. Out of bounds, as it were.

    Just because you can’t verify all the bona fides of Kundra’s resume doesn’t mean it’s resume padding. Maybe you’re a poor investigator. Maybe lots of this information is considered private. Maybe Kundra had some modest gigs before hitting the big time.

    One of the reasons I say this is that I’ve heard pretty good things about recovery.org. It’s not perfect but there’s a lot more information there than the government has traditionally released, and more is promised. That’s movemement in the right (as in correct) direction.

    I read a business case about a retailer that paid a lot more for their website than you would think. The business leader (CEO) explained, in detail, why this was so. They were a conventional retailer adding a full web presence. As such they felt it part of their brand, their business credibility, to completely integrate their online and physical market spaces.

    As such they provided online access to inventory levels, cross-marketing activities, full support for product returns, complete online catalogs revamped for optimal web presentation, on and on it went. This stuff is relatively easy if you’re a small, online-only startup. When you’re a multi-billion dollar conventional retailer with a dealer network, you have greater expectations to deal with.

    I can’t say whether the money spent on recovery.org was effective or appropriate. Maybe Kundra is a blowhard and a fake. It sure seems to me like you want to rain on the man’s parade though!

  21. cwitzel says:

    So many absurdities in all these comments.

    Of all this I’m struck with Carcarius observation that “Certification” is absurd, and I have to agree.

    Just rid of us MSCE and we will be better off. Damn book learners. Never hire these losers. Anyone that gets certified is just insane, and a lame asse loser!!

    Book learners don’t know as much as us pros with years of experience. I prefer to choose my IT pros by their WOW levels.

    Of course they get around my firewalls and play WOW at work, but hey, they are certified in my book. That’s all we should ask from employees!

    I mean when I ask them to create a user account for new employee and they buy a level 27 Orc from China on the company credit card, we all agree that is what we expect. Right?!?

    Are there better options?

    Don’t know anything about the dude in the story, but if I can’t beat him in PVP, he’s a winner in my book.

    “Professionals” are just losers in my book! Got to hurry now, as my internet gets shut off at midnight. Somehow we went bankrupt.
    Thanks,
    Conan

  22. Cyndorth says:

    http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2009/08/on_transparency.html;jsessionid=SQ0K4CYHBQXLDQE1GHPCKHWATMY32JVN

    Vivek doesn’t have the credibility problem here. You do. A bit more journalistic skill would serve you well. There’s a reason the MSM didn’t cover this story; there’s nothing to it!

    And about Aneesh, being the highly-regarded CTO of Virginia doesn’t count as having “zero technology background”. You don’t have to be a coder to have a handle on tech strategy, and how tech can be deployed to make people’s lives better.

    Warranty, not warrantee.

  23. egoebelbecker says:

    #176 – “A small error? Maybe. The error though isn’t Dvorak’s. The error belongs to whoever posted the bio, OR, Kundra for not correcting it.”

    Of course, Dvorak just ran a “special report” without doing the same amount of research that well, everyone else that covered the story did. Clearly not his fault. it works when he says completely incorrect and unqualified stuff about software….why should this be any different?

    I mean he “queried” the White House and they didn’t answer right away!!! Don’t they know who he is? He’s John Dvorak! He writes for PC MAGAZINE!!!!

  24. egoebelbecker says:

    #79 – I guess Dvorak still scooped Arrington.

    Or does it still count if there’s no story? Ah, we’ll let John have the point. Lord knows, he needs it.

  25. Greg Allen says:

    Natalie said, on August 12th, 2009 at 9:38 am

    >> Ummm…I’m not Indian, and I’m here to tell you that your comments definitely make you sound like a bigot.

    The Indians who told me that academic fraud in India is rampant — are they anti-India bigots, too?

    One can notice things about a culture and not be a bigot.

    >> rax said,
    >> Having said that, go visit India and you’ll truly be enlightened.

    I lived there. It was _in India_ where _Indians_ told me that academic fraud is rampant. I also saw it myself.

    As for Kundra, I only know what John wrote. Kundra graduated from a US college and spent a little less than half his childhood in the US. But, was he raised in a sub-culture where academic fraud is common and acceptable? It’s at least plausible.

    If you think about it, I’m sort of defending him, if it’s proven that he lied about his credentials.

  26. SB says:

    John, the length of the post is bad, but then again, it has brought on major discussion. I have heard you state your strategy before… (paraphrasing of course) Say what you think, the feedback helps you… and as all of us gauge what is true, the truth arises. If you need to, judging from any possible new information re-adjust your opinion.

    Good work.

  27. mr. show says:

    John,

    Thank you for sticking your neck out with this story. As we see in the comments, many despise your critique of Kundra’s story (his character, background, and policy ideas) but so be it.

    The larger point of this story is that it’s too bad that we don’t demand more from our government and our leaders in the sense of their integrity (or lack thereof). And that goes for any party folks.

    Who knows? Maybe the conspiracy nuts will say it’s all an effort to get Steve Jobs into the spot? HAR!

  28. jottos says:

    jeez john, you missed the salient point
    maybe he covered up, maybe he didn’t but why on earth was he chosen over so many better qualified folks? because despite the stated intentions, there really isn’t any desire to have a real CTO or CIO for the country – this post has as much or even fewer teeth than surgeon general.

    btw – digg is a very bad comparison to make w/ 18m proposed for gov site – there have been many 10’s of millions sunk into it

  29. Rapid Roy says:

    Did you ever stop and think that is just JCD’s way of trying to get more listeners to NA before the VC money runs out at Mevio. The burn rate of the VC money has to be enormous with Adam moving and flying all over the world every 2 weeks. So they continue to beg for money while getting paid VC money to supposedly work there doing something.
    Who is getting ripped off ? That’s the big question. Maybe JCD should investigate himself.

  30. soundwash says:

    Way to go JCD.

    John made some good observations and points.

    I’d like to see if/how this guy disqualifies John’s observations.

    we obviously cant take anyone’s word [or face value] in this administration given the amount of blatant lies they have already tried to sell us just six months in (especially in regards to the state of our economy the past few days)

    given the vetting problems this admin constantly has had, -plus the fact they hired back half the crooks that created the financial crisis in the first place (to fix it), i’d like to see if this guy is actually legit.

    -or just another yes-man with a doctored history to put up a good front for the mass of BubbleVision watching lemmings that voted them in.

    Given the obvious lack of credibility in this administration from the top on down, I see no problem with “We the People” giving *all the new hires* a proper anal exam of their credentials. Especially if they are going to responsible for the People’s money and administration of law.

    -Kundra is already a known petty thief and has had the FBI in his office making arrests for fraud. -only a complete idiot would not take a hard look at him.

    We already made the mistake of ignoring obama’s background and now he’s leading the country straight down the toilet.

    Lets not keep making the same mistakes with the very few things we actually have an iota of control over.

    It’s time the masses stopped ignoring our political process.

    People forget that it is our constitutional DUTY to question every aspect of those we elect to represent us. -and frequently.

    Nice to see someone in media actually doing some reporting, instead of just parroting whatever scripts come over the AP news wire.

    Keep up the good work John.

    -s


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