Swine flu manufacturers have now been granted legal immunity in case something goes wrong that causes side effects associated with the vaccine. Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services signed a document making federal officials and vaccine makers immune from lawsuits related to any ill effects from the swine flu vaccine.
Fears about the effects of a novel swine flu vaccine have sparked much discussion. A swine flu outbreak among soldiers at Fort Dix, N.J in 1974 resulted in vaccinations that caused side effects including Guillain-Barre Syndrome, a condition that causes paralysis. The result was thousands of lawsuits.
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Five pharmaceutical companies are manufacturing swine flu vaccine. The drugs are not as profitable as some, like cancer drugs, but immunity from legal action provides incentive to vaccine makers.Paul Pennock, a New York plaintiffs attorney on medical liability cases spoke out about the immunity granted to swine flu vaccine makers, saying “If you’re going to ask people to do this for the common good, then let’s make sure for the common good that these people will be taken care of if something goes wrong.”
You knew this was coming.
Americans have allowed themselves to become nothing more than sources of profit for industry. It’s horrifying how many of us think that it’s the way things should be.
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“As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety than ever before, even in the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions may prove groundless.”
Pres. Abraham Lincoln – November 21, 1864
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Government “of the people, by the people and for the people” is long gone.
Those poor trial lawyers already had their vacation homes picked-up and now this!
I’d like to see how this holds up in court if the vaccine ends up killing a bunch of people.
#4–brm==hypothetical. USA needs a vaccine to prevent the deaths of millions of people. That same vaccine will kill 500 people who would not have died had they not taken the vaccine. Without litigation protection, the vaccine will NOT be made.
Why not suggest that workers comp be extended to all victims of a vaccine?
Why not have universal healthcare so ill people are not motivated to find a deep pocket?
Why not DEAL WITH reality?
Bobbo is right, without litigation protection the vaccines will never be made. Insert your own social commentary.
Millions of Americans may die without the vaccine, however, is crazy talk. Millions may get sick, millions and millions may be spent treated those who got sick, but millions will not die.
#6
Actually, Bobbo is no where close to being right….He is far, far to the left besides being incorrect.
Not only will this action take away our rights as citizens to redress any wrongs done against us…with an earlier post, those wrongs aren’t being done by our own country they are being done by membership of the WHO – a lot of whom have sworn the destruction of our country.
So ya really want the United States citizens to become unknowing, involuntary test subjects for some country’s modern day Mandela?
This is a “HOLY SHIT, you’ve got to be kidding me” kind of story. I’m sorry, but these science labs (workers) will screw up and protecting them is not a good idea. I guess we need human test subjects now. Who’s first for the vaccine?
No, Theone. Protecting those lab workers (i.e. the vaccine manufacturers) is entirely correct. The Gov, in it’s omniscient benevolence, is telling them to rush the vaccine out WITHOUT clinical testing. It’s an absurd thing to do, IMHO, but that’s our Gov. The truth is, we have a lot of experience making flu vaccines so it will probably be okay and safe. It’s that “probably” that will keep me from getting shot up. I’ll take my chances with the flu. And will somebody please teach Curry to say Guillain (gi yawn). Gilliam was a Python troupe member.
What do you mean, coming? This is standard practive for vaccine manufacture.
Vaccine production is not a profit industry. Why make a product that doesnt make you money, yet puts you at risk of lawsuit?
The swine flu fear monering (on both sides) is way out of control, but this is SOP.
When the Fannie Mae started buying mortgages from banks, it created a “moral hazard” – why should a bank care whether the owner could pay the mortgage – it was guaranteed by the government.
Now we have the ultimate moral hazard – why should the vaccine companies care about quality control – so what if a few people (or maybe 100s or 1000s) die because either the vaccine killed them, or something went wrong during manufacturing – the government has given them a “get-out-of-jail-free” card.
Imagine a few years from now, with a new national health-care system, and the government decides we can’t afford all these expensive malpractice suits. So they pass a law saying the doctors can’t be sued, and the maximum liability is $5,000. Then doctors can start performing surgery like a production line, doing as many as possible as quickly as possible to make as much money as possible. Who cares if some people die, the government says it’s okay!
just another demonstration of how hypotheticals help one to think through an issue.
Sadly, reverse also holds for those not being able to think through a hypothetical.
Course, its just a hypothetical. Who ever heard of millions dying from a new type of never seen before flu that has crossed over from pigs?
So, ignore the hypothetical and keep thinking without regard to facts.
“and RON PAUL, LIEBERTARIAN, would say that Monsanto (vaccine makers) should not have its freedom restricted by anti-pollution (malpractice) rules. Only being sued enough by injured people should be the proper regulations of these corporate citizens.”
“ANYBODY that says “over regulation” is wrong is a simpering mouthpiece for corruption and greed. The ONLY proper position is “appropriate regulation properly enforced.” THEN you can have a conversation worth the oxygen.”
I vote that Mr. Fusion is the other half of bobbo’s brain.
I might go for not sue for normal allergic reactions to eggs or what ever but this is going a little far. I’ll take my normal shot. I plan to wait a while on this one.
Thing is I think there was a small out break of swine flu a few decades back and I have have had it then anyway.
Stop posting about swine flu. Uncle Dave’s anti-vax paranoia is getting extremely tiresome.
HEY Dave, John C. et al…
The Plot Thickens..
you guys have to get this posted and into the next NoAgenda if you haven’t already.
Apparently the gene gurus have confirmed a 90% match in 8 gene segments between the 1918 flu and H1N1
a snippet from a July 13 Recombinomics.com commentary:
“These data further support the observation that the 90% of the polymorphisms in sequences of all 8 gene segments from the 1918 pandemic strain can be found in a human H1N1 isolate, WSN/33 or a swine H1N1 isolate, A/swine/Iowa/15/1930. These data support a scenario that mimics the data for 2009, which involves a swine H1N1 moving into a human population and spreading efficiently.”
me thinks somebody have their 200 in 1 Science kit taken away.. :p
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Maybe AIG will cover them.
Another sell out of the sheeple, in the good ol USA.
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So you’re saying we, the public, should just deal with it and yet you’re not in line to get a shot. Kinda nice having your cake and seeing others pay for it eh? Your confidence in them is astounding to say the least.
I quit my job at the aerospace company because they wanted me to sign off of on crappy motors and actuators for NASA and Boeing. Yea, it was during the Bush Daddy “recession” and it was hard, vary hard financially, but I’m not going to get people killed because of idiots telling me I should do so. If you choose to do it then at least have the balls/vagina to take the blame.
#16, deowll,
Thing is I think there was a small out break of swine flu a few decades back and I have have had it then anyway.
The name might be the same but that was given by the media, not the science.
The correct name is H1N1 and it has not been seen in our lifetime. Apparently there is some current discussion that the Spanish Flu epidemic of 1918 conferred immunity. Those exposed to the Spanish flu however, will all be at least 90 y/o.
On a bad year– 220000 or more die from seasonal flu, and on a good year 44,000— these are stats. 1000 ppl or so and everyone’s pushing major vaccination campaigns? Read the actual stats on how low the mortality rate is for swine flu and youll get an idea as to why these idiots should be held responsible for the actual products “they make”. What about the ppl being killed by the vaccines– What about autopsy? Is this some kind of “collatoral damage” you accept willingly? What foolishness.
On a bad year– 220000 or more die from seasonal flu, and on a good year 44,000— these are stats. 1000 ppl or so and everyone’s pushing major vaccination campaigns? Read the actual stats on how low the mortality rate is for swine flu and youll get an idea as to why these idiots should be held responsible for the actual products “they make”. What about the ppl being killed by the vaccines– What about autism– Is this some kind of “collatoral damage” you accept willingly? What foolishness.
and yah i spelled autopsy instead of autism, haha. Deal with it– mistakes happen in the heat of typing– no edit option here…..