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You can hardly wait for snow leopard? Surely, thou jesteth.
MAC – 1 version – 8 sets of hardware
WINDOWS – 6 version – 4599 sets of hardware… and climbing.
Remember that only two versions (home premium and pro) will be generally available. The rest will be specials or on netbooks.
Not this again. The anti-Vista bullshit was bad enough.
#2 got it, Home Premium and Professional will be the only versions most users will use. The others all fill various niches. Enterprise is Professional for mass deployment, Starter and Basic are for low cost computers. Ultimate is analogous to the old Plus! packs Microsoft used to sell.
Would it be smarter for them to simply have one product? Sure, but computer manufacturers would have a fit.
Oh, and Apple blows. 🙂
#1 – There are 2 versions of Mac OS X
1. OS X Client/Desktop
2. OS X Server. With either a 10 user license or Unlimited.
Peace
Yes, because with almost 2 billion computers in the world and 95% of them running windows, Microsoft should take a one size fits all approach.
#4,
Actually, Apple sells zero operating systems. The only way to buy the Apple operating system is with it bundled with a computer. Those things you are buying are actually just service packs.
#6
No, you can buy OS X independent of any hardware. Just look at Apple’s store or Amazon, where it is available. It is licensed to run on Apple hardware only, but many enterprising souls have it also running on PC hardware via mild hacks.
Not getting into any Mac vs. PC debate, just stating the facts and correcting your mistake.
Installed RC1 Ultimate over Vista Home Premium and it doesn’t run any worse (or better) on a celeron 540 lappy w/2g. With almost everything running in the background and everything wanted to update/phone home every time I turn it on (or run a virus scan) I’m last in line to use my own machine. Even stuff I deleted like wild tangent games still has zombie processes.
Looking at the chart, the average user won’t need anything above home pre. You don’t need them to join to a domain. Most users don’t need the full-fledged EFS, if they encrypt at all. XP mode seems to be for running legacy apps. And all the stuff exclusive to Enterprise/Ultimate are sysadmin and enthusiast features, not something you’d TRUST the average user to set up on their own.
I’ve been using Win 7 and each successive release candidate including the final and trying to give this the full benefit of the doubt. I still prefer OS X. Unless you have done a similar comparison, I’d suggest you STFU. Even if Win 7 was a turd polished Vista, it is much better than Vista.
The 6 versions should have been called:
Mildly Retarded
Retarded
Severely Retarded
Whacked Out
Vegetable
AlfredOne
@#9 So no one needs automated backups? Market is dominated by laptops, yet no encryption (and BitLocker can only be found in the top of the line) and no location based printing? [Chances of data being stolen with your PC and inability to simply use laptop as intended]. No XP mode but for top of the line although need for it is among average users…
Worst of all is deception for the more and more predominant netbook owners. Crippleware for them…
I like what I hear about W7 as OS, but this MS strategy will bite them back… On low end (netbooks) via Linux, on high end via MAC…
#12 Will they even know they need to do it, or set it up if they do? That is the question.
Pay to actually be able to address your machines memory. Wow, what a feature!
This certainly proves that Apple has it all wrong by giving away the whole store for $29.
Microsoft is all about maximizing Bill Gates’ personal worth. End of story.
#9: “the average user won’t need anything above home pre.”
That’s the grand mistake that Linux makes.
“Linux is good enough, the average user doesn’t need any more than email, Web browsing, media playing and a little word processing.”
But the average user is a mythical character that doesn’t match anyone in real life. Every user has to accomplish that one above-average thing once in a while and will be furious if the machine lets them down. Especially if the machine is a computer, a machine that was invented to bend and shape endlessly everything it’s supposed to work on. Especially if the machine is rigged to fail at accomplishing a task it would otherwise be able to do.
Those artificial limitations are gouging, they’re ripping people off, and even the most clueless computer owners realize that. No excuse for such practice is acceptable.
#7
So what you are saying is those are service packs because they dont actually come with a license to run the software…
Just correcting your oversite…
#18: What are you talking about? You buy a copy of OS-X, it’s the full thing. There are no ‘service packs’ of OS-X.
It does have the ability to upgrade an existing installation so in that limited sense it could be called a service pack, but you could wipe out or replace the hard disk and install it from scratch.
Microsoft, on the other hand, sells their OS as both full copies and upgrade versions that require an installed copy of their OS. The upgrade versions could be called service packs, sort of. OS-X isn’t sold that way.
Poppa, somehow I doubt Alfred1 will read a Windows software related post.
FWIW, I enjoy reading comments of his when you all agree with him, he sounds perfectly sane.
(ex: star tattoos girl)
As for Windows 7 – it’s the 64 bit and systems with 16G or higher ram that will really shine.
Too bad Microsoft had to screw around with “Program Files” and “Document and Settings” directories. That’s the big reason why companies are not switching (yet).
#11 – Poppa Boner
LOL
It’s telling that the privacy tools, such as file system encryption, are only availabe in the most expensive versions.
It tells me that MS isn’t serious about computer security.
OH GOD I CAN’T ENCRYPT UNLESS I BUY THE EXPENSIVE VERSION
I’d be suprised if a full 1% of microsoft’s userbase encrypted files
http://images.pcworld.com//news/graphics/167444-windows7_editions_guide_original.jpg
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umm, i DONT GET WINDOWS xp mode uNLESS…
i GET THE PRO OEM VERSION?? and above..
WHO IN HELL wants 192 MEG of ram, WHO can afford 192, and WHAT mobo can support it..
192 is a Nice, Big Number. 11000000/C0 in binary and hexadecimal, for those familiar, that happens to fit nicely in an 8-bit addressing space. The point isn’t if it can be put in there now or in the near future, but that there’s essentially no limit to it at this time.
And it’s GigaBytes, not Megs. 192MB is insufficient to run XP.
And if you’re asking about what kind of systems? How about those custom render farms needed for modern CG film work? The frames on Pixar’s stuff is massive, in the multiple terabytes range when initially rendered, which means they need massive amounts of memory to buffer the data as it’s being rendered to provide a constant stream. Admittedly, I know they don’t use Windows (one of those situations where Linux IS appropriate), but you can’t say that there is no demand for that kind of memory space.
>192MB is insufficient to run XP.
I ran it on 128 MB just fine. Until I installed SP3, then even 384 wasn’t enough.
I run both XP and Win7 RC with Virtualbox on my Linux box. I see absolutely nothing that appeals to me in Win7. Actually, I’ve TRIED to find something to embrace about 7 and I just can’t come up with anything. I’ll continue to fire up XP in Virtualbox for those Windows centric tasks I might have.
I hate(d) Vista.
I just installed 7RC last night and have been playing with it since.
I like it so far. It has the eye-candy of Vista and the ease of use of XP.
The installation was painless. I almost thought I had forgotten something. Very few mouse clicks to get it installed.
#25: from what I’ve experienced, a good general figure is 256MB to run XP smoothly, and 512 if you actually want to run any apps.
You know, I admit that it shouldn’t bother me, but I find the persistent use of made-up words like “embiggen” to be really annoying.
I’d say they need a business version that can be absolutely chained down and a home version that has a lot of toys.
Upgrading a system shouldn’t cost over 30 or 40 dollars. My reason for saying that is that that I think they would end up making a lot more money due to a lot more upgrade sales. Well fifty which is what they are offering to those who do it soon isn’t bad.
My issue is that I’ve done a lot of OS upgrades in the past and in the short term I never, ever saw any gains that I could quantify in any meaningful way for doing it. My favorite software aps have always run just like they were running before I did the OS upgrade. If nothing changed with my aps what exactly did I gain?
If I spend the money and go through the botheration of replacing Vista on this machine with 7 I’m mainly going to get to learn a new user interface and the thrill of that is gone. I’ve gone through more interface changes than I can easily recall.
My reaction to those is where did they stick the whats it? There ok. It’s the same kind of thrill I’d get if the cleaning lady stuck my socks in a different drawer. A little hunting will let you find everything but is it fun? Did I actually gain anything by this? Yawn.
An OS upgrade should not be confused with a hardware upgrade if you need one. If you need one go for it. The thing is a bleeping net book actually has the muscle to do everything I need to do with no problems and about as fast as quad 4 except video editing!