This would be like Jews wanting Hitler to win in Germany. Insane!

As Iranians go to the polls to elect a president, American neoconservatives are openly rooting not for moderate reform candidate and former prime minister Mir-Hossein Mousavi but for anti-U.S. hardliner Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. This is an obvious sign both of the neocons’ preference for conflict over peace between the U.S. and Iran and of the generally bankrupt state of conservatism in America, reduced now to banking on failure for the Obama administration (see Huffington Post, Rachel Maddow).

Should the reformist Mousavi win the Iranian election and become president, it would likely signal a new and more positive direction for U.S.-Iranian relations as well as providing support for the “Obama Doctrine” of engagement with Iran and other adversaries. Such a development would at the same time undercut the neocon attitude of hostility and suspicion toward Iran, as well as undercutting the right-wing Israeli government’s aggressive stance toward Iran. Indeed it is likely that right-wingers in Israel as well as America see nothing good for themselves in any warming of relations between the U.S. and Iran.




  1. smartalix says:

    Anyone proposing that Ahmadinejad win has problems, regardless of stripe. If they are calling themselves pro-America, to support Ahmadinejad would be tantamount to treason, right?

  2. sargassso says:

    Someone photoshop him wearing a republican party badge.

  3. RBG says:

    WTF? Nutty Lefties WANT Conservatives to want Ahmadinejad To Win In Iraq Election.

    RBG

  4. GigG says:

    Taken completely out of context. What at least one of those neocons said was…

    “should someone more soft-spoken and less defiant — someone like former prime minister Mir-Hossein Mousavi — win, it would be easier for Obama to believe that Iran really was figuratively unclenching a fist when, in fact, it had it had its other hand hidden under its cloak, grasping a dagger.”

  5. Patrick says:

    Uncle Dave, at least don’t use a nutty left wing site to quote from. Try a legit source.

  6. Jetfire says:

    As a nutty Neocon (never understood where that came from) Lefties just trying to make Conservaties sound like NeoNazi I quess. I hope Ahmadinejad loses. If Obama does bring peace to the middle east more I would be happy with that. I don’t believe it will and all the Iranians are doing is buying time to make the bomb. And if anyone thinks the elections in Iran are fair I have a bridge to sell you.

  7. Jägermeister says:

    Obama’s fault.

  8. Patrick says:

    #7 Actually, probably the Brits fault for messing around in Persia in the 1st place..

  9. Greg Allen says:

    Ahmadinejad _is_ a neo-conservative, just a Muslim one.

    Unless you understand this, you really don’t understand radical Islam.

  10. Hmeyers says:

    Are Iraq and Iran the same country?
    I have never thought so but hey, what do I know!

  11. Jägermeister says:

    #9 – Alfred1

    How’s your grandpa? Will he last the trial?

  12. amodedoma says:

    According to my experience, truly fair and democratic elections are a very rare thing.  Ahmadinejad may retain the power yet.  I hope not but I’m a cynic in all things political. OTH the hawks have had a hard on for this guy for years now.  I’m sure they’ll be very disappointed to see the sudden spread of peace and reconciliation.  Military conflict is very big business and if Obama doesn’t play along they’ll probrably do him they way they did the Kennedy’s.

  13. amodedoma says:

    In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
    Dwight D. Eisenhower

  14. Uncle Dave says:

    #5: Is the Wall Street Journal too liberal for you?

  15. Great American says:

    #17 yes it is

  16. brm says:

    Can you quit changing the text entry box? It’s doing that right to left thing again.
     

  17. tcc3 says:

    I love knee jerk answers from the “all media is liberal” script. WSJ is one of the more conservative papers. Im sure it will be more so now that NewsCorp owns it.”

  18. Hmeyers says:

    The reality is that neo-cons are activist liberal Jews who have Israel’s interests at heart and care and since 9/11 have sought to control the behavior of the USA through inciting Muslim conflict.
     
    Now that I have said what everyone already knows, this is surprising how?  If, by definition, you are a neo-con trying to control the USA you need the scariest leaders possible for this strategy to work.
     
     
    Ho-hum.  A bigger question is why we allow dual USA-Israel citizenship or USA+anything citizenship…. as it creates these very problems.

  19. Patrick says:

    # 17 Uncle Dave said, “#5: Is the Wall Street Journal too liberal for you?”

    I guess not. I read the article and didn’t see anywhere some “neo con” rooting for Ahmadinejad…

    What’s your point?

  20. Jägermeister says:

    #19 – brm – Can you quit changing the text entry box? It’s doing that right to left thing again.

    Shut off JavaScript for dvorak.org and it’s back to normal.

  21. Dallas says:

    Right wing nutts thrive on conflict. You gotta have a boogie man to keep the sheep frightened to fall in line.

    More importantly, a moderate would provide Obama an opportuity to diffuse world tension.

    This would be horrible for the GOP. An improved US economy *and* world peace would be disaster.

  22. Jägermeister says:

    #24 – Dallas – Right wing nutts thrive on conflict. You gotta have a boogie man to keep the sheep frightened to fall in line.

    That pretty much sums up their modus operandi.

  23. Dallas says:

    #25 Yep. Imagine a 2012 election where Obama acheives a recovered economy, a stable Iraq and a diffused situation in Iran.

    This would be a disaster for the GOP.

    I expect North Korea’s GOP president, Kim Jong DingBat to be gone by then as well.

  24. Troublemaker says:

    <i>Greg Allen said,  on June 12th, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    Ahmadinejad _is_ a neo-conservative, just a Muslim one.

    Unless you understand this, you really don’t understand radical Islam.</i>

    Considering that the vast majority of Neocons are Jewish Liberals that converted to  the “Conservative” party because they felt that their Zionist agenda had a better chance with that group, your reference seems very strange and… well, uninformed.

    I think it’s you that doesn’t really understand ANY of this.

  25. Mr. Fusion says:

    #19, brm,

    It’s doing that right to left thing again.

    You mean it is going from wrong to correct still. A typical right wing nut complaint. Never happy unless everything goes their way.

    😉

    For Firefox, go into “Tools”, “Options”, “Content”, and unclick “Enable JavaScript”. That should make you a lefty.

    😉 If that doesn’t fix it, maybe you are doomed to be a right wing nut for the rest of your life.

    I’m not sure about IE, but it should be similar. Thanks to Jagermiester (#23) for the fix.

  26. Micromike says:

    I think Neocons define themselves by who they hate. This guy is an easy target for anybody who loves to hate but hates to think

  27. MikeN says:

    I don’t know about it now, but it used to be before Murdoch bought it, that the Wall Street Journal was one of the more liberal newspapers, and only the editorial page was conservative.

  28. Mr. Fusion says:

    #22, Cow-Patty,

    Damn dude, I thought you would have gotten new glasses by now.

    From the linked article.

    … right-wingers in Israel like those in America appear to see nothing good for themselves in any warming of relations between the U.S. and Iran, as observed by M.J. Rosenberg at TPM and Yaakov Katz at the Jerusalem Post.

    The unpleasant fellow you see pictured here is Daniel Pipes of the right-wing Middle East Forum, a raging neocon who said in a speech this week at the Heritage Foundation that he would vote for Ahmadinejad if he were allowed to vote in Iran (video). The American Enterprise Institute’s Michael Rubin likewise told Kathryn Jean Lopez at the National Review that it could be better for Ahmadinejad to win, because a Mousavi win might give Obama the impression that diplomacy was working.

    Well, that seems to me to be a well researched bit with citations. Oh right, you don’t like citations because you can never find any for the crap the right wing nuts like to make up.

    These guys are neo-cons. Right wing nuts that believe Israel is the ultimate motherland, temporarily under the protection of Jews, with America’s help. Boss Limpdick’s kind of people.

  29. MikeN says:

    Well I can see his point, though I disagree.  He is saying that there is no good option in the election, or even not so bad option.  In that case it is better to have the guy who reveals what he is planning to do.

  30. Mr. Fusion says:

    #31, ‘dro,

    #26 What, mixing lefty loonbats with right wingers again?

    Hhmmm, looks like Alphie has made a convert.


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