New Cloud

MSNBC – Looking out the 11th floor window of her law office, Jane Wiggins did a double take and grabbed her camera. The dark, undulating clouds hovering outside were unlike anything she’d seen before.

“It looked like Armageddon,” said Wiggins, a paralegal and amateur photographer in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. “The shadows of the clouds, the lights and the darks, and the greenish-yellow backdrop. They seemed to change.”

They dissipated within 15 minutes, but the photo Wiggins captured in June 2006 intrigued — and stumped — a group of dedicated weather watchers who now are pushing weather authorities to create a new cloud category, something that hasn’t been done since 1951. Breaking into the cloud family would require surviving layers of skeptical international review. Still, Gavin Pretor-Pinney and his England-based Cloud Appreciation Society are determined to establish a new variety. They’ve given Wiggins’ photo and similar pictures taken in different parts of the world to experts in England, and are discussing the subject fervently online.

“They (the clouds) were the first ones that I noted of this type and I was unsure which category to put them under,” said Pretor-Pinney, author of “The Cloudspotter’s Guide.” “When we put pictures up online we list the category, and I wasn’t sure how to categorize it.” Some scientists are skeptical. They argue that researchers who have long watched the sky haven’t seen anything distinctly new for decades. There are three main groups of clouds: cumulous, cirrus and stratus. Each has various sub-classifications built on other details of the formation.

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Brant Foote, a longtime scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo., said the clouds photographed by Wiggins already fit into the existing cumulous classification. But Pretor-Pinney, who never studied meteorology, believes the clouds merit their own cumulus sub-classification. He proposes they be called altocumulus undulatus asperatus. The last word — Latin for roughen or agitate — is a reference to the clouds’ undulating surface. “Not necessarily gentle or steady, but quite violent-looking, turbulent, almost twisted in its appearance,” he said.

The group has compiled several photographs documenting the formations from the billowy, rolling clouds shot by Wiggins in Iowa to ones from New Zealand that were much more menacing, hanging lava-like in the sky.

Foote said it would be “very unusual” for such a formation to be recognized as a new variety of cloud.

“People have been looking at clouds for hundreds of years and the general cloud classification is well defined,” Foote said. “It’s not as if someone discovered a new plant in the Amazon. It’s what you’ve seen every day. There was no atmospheric condition that caused a new kind of cloud to form.”




  1. sargassso says:

    ?Fog

  2. sargassso says:

    Yeah, that editor caught me.

  3. dusanmal says:

    Advice to anyone photographing these:
    They dissappear quickly. Grab your camera and shoot. I have had a opportunity to catch them on LI in 1997 and by the time  drove to “nice foreground location” they have changed to a quite plain sight.
    At least in that case Met’s correlated them to a severe weather and tornados just south of us(off shore of NJ)., just few hours earlier.:

  4. Zybch says:

    Any reason this story has appeared again?  And WHY THE HELL has the comment system started typing from the right once again!
    You guys didn’t take the hint last time that its gonna drive people away from the blog?

    [WordPress was updated and it started doing this on its own. We’re stumped at the moment but trying to find the problem. – ed.]

  5. JimR says:

    I see those about 2x per year around here. They do only last about 30 mins or so. usually a very windy storm follows.

  6. Jägermeister says:

    Obama’s fault!

  7. MikeN says:

    Probably the result of global warming.

  8. John and Adam discussed this in an No Agenda some time ago.

  9. BubbaRay says:

    I doubt there will be a new cloud classification for this cumulus type cloud, but it certainly is beautiful. I’ve only seen it a few times here in tornado alley.

  10. Jägermeister says:

    #8 – MikeN

    Let’s just conclude that it’s Obama’s fault. It’s so much easier.

  11. B.Dog says:

    Why did they wait so close to the End Times to appear?

  12. Ed says:

    Two words: Gravity Wave

  13. Troublemaker says:

    Interesting, but if you read it, it seems like a non-story.

  14. MikeN says:

    #11, OK.  George Bush did stop global warming, and perhaps Obama will reverse this policy as well, but so far he has just been continuing the BUsh legacy of lower temperatures.

  15. Mr. Fusion says:

    #4, Zybch,

    And WHY THE HELL has the comment system started typing from the right once again!

    It’s a filter put in by the DU crew. It only happens to right wing nuts. Liberals don’t have that problem as we always start from the left.

    8)

  16. clancys_daddy says:

    okay ummmm its a cloud

  17. Olo Baggins of Bywater says:

    Cloud Appreciation Society
    A group to which I will nver belong.

  18. geez says:

    These are nothing new….I’ve seen them for years.
    Need to fix this damn comment system….and people rely on you for tech advice?….amateurish mistakes that take days to fix
     

  19. Jose says:

                                                                                                                                                                 

    these clouds I have seen them also and I have pictures of the they appered in hemet California on June 03,2009 at about 1pm to about 2pm on that day I have never seen these type of clouds before so they seem strange to me.I took the photos with my cell phone and later I looked at them and it was if you could see face’s in then an a face of a cat. it was I do not know how to explain it without sounding like a big time nut.

  20. brm says:

    #19:
    “and people rely on you for tech advice?”
    How does a goofy blog interface that he doesn’t even administer have anything to do with his analysis of the tech market?
     

  21. Olo Baggins of Bywater says:

    #20, too late. 🙂

  22. derspankster says:

    !!it like anything  seen  never have I

  23. boyo says:

    seems like  someone giving analysis on tech business would realize that he needs to get someone who knows what they are doing to administer his site. This is why NA can’t get enough money…no-follow through on promises, no attention to infrastructure, not even a working website (btw, I thought SquareSpace was super easy and fast and cheap….guess not). Why would we give these clowns money to do a mildly amusing podcast where they talk about dropping hundreds wining and dining every week and then beg for money. No problem with them making money, but when starting a new business you can’t expect to keep up a lavish lifestyle during the formative stages….especially when you’vebeen telling your listeners how much you need the cash.

  24. 888 says:

    cloud… OK…

  25. R_and_om says:

    IS that second picture real?
    if so, i’ma start being a cloud watcher

  26. Glenn E. says:

    Must be a slow news day. Nothing else to report on for the 12th of June, like, oh I don’t know, all the US analog Tv transmitters shutting down.

    Interesting things happened during that day. In my town, a few affiliates of FOX and CW had already shut their analog xmitters off, a month ago. And yet one CW station started acting up day, with simulated video blackouts, as if implying they were part of the switchover too. What a load of BS! They’ve all had months to get he technology right. Nothing should be happening with the digital transmissions, when they stop the analog, except perhaps it get stronger. A few changed their frequencies. But that’s not as hard to do, as it once was, decades ago.

  27. Wolfie351 says:

    Looks like a regular cloud shot with that HDR photo fad thing

  28. Hugh Ripper says:

    I would comment but my brain has imploded due to the comment system …

  29. green says:

    The space program at work. Nothing to see here.

  30. Buzz says:

    What’s with this typing on the right thing that 4 mentioned? It’s happening to me on one computer but not the other. Is it a flaw in my browser (Safari is supposedly now 100% compliant) or is it a coding problem in the blog software? Certain characters cause unpredictable on-page effects. And at the bottom of the page is a cryptic “advanced path: p” notation. We’ve seen it before, here, and it is very hard to use this way.


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