Authorities said they had a suspect in custody Sunday afternoon in the shooting death of George Tiller, a Wichita doctor who was one of the few doctors in the nation to perform late-term abortions.
Dr. Tiller, who had long been a lightning rod for controversy over the issue of abortion and had survived a shooting more than a decade ago, was shot inside his church here on Sunday morning, the authorities said. Dr. Tiller, 67, was shot with a handgun inside the lobby of his longtime church, Reformation Lutheran Church on the city’s East Side, just after 10 a.m. (Central Time). The service had started minutes earlier.
Dr. Tiller, who had performed abortions since the 1970s, had long been a lightning rod for controversy over the issue of abortion, particularly in Kansas, where abortion opponents regularly protested outside his clinic and sometimes his home and church.
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“Dr. Tiller was a fearless, passionate defender of women’s reproductive health and rights,” said Nancy Northup, president of the Center for Reproductive Rights, based in New York, which had worked on a legal case related to Dr. Tiller. “It’s time that this nation stop demonizing these doctors, and start honoring them.”
The killer has been caught.
#87 DDub:
“Once someone commits murder, is there any point to calling them a hypocrite? Sort of like saying ‘Fur is murder…and theft!'”
We’re thinking kind of along the same lines. It’s like, what’s the point of trying to prove this guy is a hypocrite?
(I don’t think he is a hypocrite, but that’s something else.)
#88
Where in the Bible does it say anything about the voluntary and intentional miscarry of fetus? As many have tried to explain, the passage you quote: A: Only deals with an attack and B: does not read the way you present which I will not get into again. Seriously, can some give Algernon a shot?
The time is long overdue to designate radical christian groups, such as Operation Rescue and all their members, as terrorists.
#92 Troublemaker:
“The time is long overdue to designate radical christian groups, such as Operation Rescue and all their members, as terrorists.”
How can they be terrorists if they haven’t done anything?
We should remember that Christian doctrine tells us that all dead babies, fetuses, and zygotes go to be with Jesus, so let’s not be shedding any tears for those extremely lucky young souls that are experiencing the eternal bliss of heaven. It’s actually difficult not to envy them, with their automatic free pass for admittance at the pearly gates.
Oh, have I mentioned yet today that religion is completely insane?
Having less people like Alfred in the world would be joyous thing.
#94 – Gary: But aren’t christians taught that babies are born with the onus of original sin on their souls?
So, if that’s true then these babies are only going to Jesus as a tour guide and he will show them the path to hell. No one ever said god was compassionate. Oh, wait. Christians DO say he’s compassionate. I get soo confused. And whatever happened to purgatory? Is that still in or did they get rid of it permanently? If it’s gone, did all those babies go right to hell? Burn, baby, burn…
#97 Nimby, the best explanation concerning why Christian doctrine developed this way is that a God who sent children to hell was harder to sell than a 1978 lemon-yellow AMC Pacer.
Save the fire and brimstone for abortion doctors and fornicators, and don’t touch a single hair on the head of a poor little child, tainted though (s)he may be with original sin.
This concept tested favorably in all the Christian focus groups. The default destination for a young child is always heaven.
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Ha ha i am in 100% agreement with Alfred1. I am a christian, but im not a saint, neither am i without sin.
But the truth, is the truth. Spinning and spinning and spinning the truth, doesn’t make the truth not exist.
Abortion is another word for killing, just like Enhanced interrogation is another word for torture.
The doctor is a self proclaimed late term abortion doctor. If what he did was right, then the killer is also right. The only difference is that the killer aborted him outside his moms womb. “Late Term”
lol
What is a womb? Please define womb, whats it used for? whats an incubator? some questions you ignorant people need to ask yourselves
I repeat, facts are facts, truths are truths, Oh and also this doesn’t have to be a religious argument, even simple logic and common sense is enough to see that the doctor is a murderer and he only got what was coming for him simple Karma (what goes around comes around).
Oh before i forget, the mothers who took part in the act too, will soon get whats coming for them too.
Becuase of there on actions, be mistakes be it furnication, whatever, and the could not be man or woman enough to deal with their actions, they take it out, on an innocent victim.
Right to privacy my ass.
Alfred1 says: “But there are exceptions…for example, killing Hitler would have been applauded…Tiller killed more babies than Hitler did.”
Yep typical from a Jew.
You are not a Christian. You are a wolf in the clothe of The Lamb.
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cowards afraid of saying anything about islam jump right on this! finally, something that makes you feel guilty and ashamed.. Attack!!! cowards!
I would love to hear debate and comments on this subject after everyone listened to the full Supreme Court discussion from 30 years ago Roe vs. Wade, which is available on c-span.org and then, after at least a year of letting the arguments sink in, presented their thoughts. That would be intelligent discussion. 99.8% of the public has no clue.
As a poster on Reddit put it, “Now can we stop calling them ‘pro life’?”
The other, related story:
Christ Kills Two, Injures Seven In Abortion-Clinic Attack
The doctors killer needs to be brought to justice. On another note, Karma is a bitch…
I enjoy watching these stories. Not the tragedy themselves, but the ignorance and stupidity of the commenters. The religious folk have NO problem taking this guys life….even though the doctor was only following what the patient wanted to have happen in a safe a orderly manner.
But then, according to the Christians…Choice is NOT an option, unless its THEIR choice.
I just have to say: Just because you believe in something, doesn’t mean its accurate or correct. It just means you believe it to be.
Randall Terry (Founder of Operation Rescue):
“George Tiller was a mass-murderer. We grieve for him that he did not have time to properly prepare his soul to face God. I am more concerned that the Obama Administration will use Tiller’s killing to intimidate pro-lifers into surrendering our most effective rhetoric and actions.”
– Abortions in the US have been on the decline for the last 20 years with the largest drops during the Clinton years, but slowed down during the Bush years
– Abortion rates are dropping faster in states with the most liberal abortion laws, more slowly in states with conservative laws
– Studies at Notre Dame project that if the US criminalized abortions then rate would drop to 3-5 per 1000, somewhat higher than other western nations with the most liberal laws
If you really want to reduce and someday eliminate abortions in the US, this is not the way to go about it. No one wants more abortions.
Kansas and surrounding States are cesspools for the scientifically and educatedly retarded. “GO USA!”
The Christian Taliban strikes again!
They claim to be against killing, yet they kill?
Since when does the killing of an abortion doctor justify killing, unless you are a Christian Taliban terrorist?
#115
Is it not the case that man can be an instrument of your deity? How do you differentiate when it is your deity that is killing someone vs. man? How do you differentiate when someone is killing of their own volition from when their are being directed by their deity in “mysterious ways”? For all you know, your deity really did want Hitler to kill millions of Jews. It is not like he/she/it doesn’t have a track record of mass killings.
I find it ironic that he died in church attending church and then people end up attacking church dogma.
#107, Alphie
I thought this applies to you.
Did I miss something in the article or do people just like jumping to conclusions?
1) Do we know the suspect killed him or is he innocent until being found guilty?
2) Do we know he is a fundamentalist Christian who honestly believes he was justified in killing the doctor despite it being to opposite of what the Bible teaches?
3) Do we even know Why he killed the doctor? He has been doing this for a long time and this guy just killed him.
Even if these assumptions are all true, (yeah, they probably are) when was the last time an abortion doctor was killed? The fact that this is big news takes away from the arguments that ‘Christians want to kill abortion doctors and Iraqi babies’ The statistics do not support this.
# 122 aslightlycrankygeek said, “Even if these assumptions are all true, (yeah, they probably are) when was the last time an abortion doctor was killed?”
It was during the Clinton presidency. Interesting…
#119, Alphie,
God does not cause evil…He does not direct anyone to act…
And this is after telling us he directed all those genocides in the bible were god’s will?
This is the disconnect and hypocrisy others keep pointing out to you.
I’d feel a lot more secure if the observation glass in this asylum were a little thicker. I can’t help think that Alfred1 could still get out 😉
#124, Alphie,
You are repeating yourself. Repeatedly.
“The book of life was written before creation:
8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. (Rev 13:8 NKJ)”
Before creation? Now that is a laugh. Here again, prove to all of us that that statement is true.
BTW, god does nor exist. There is no god except in your little mind.
And I agree with Mr Fusion in 121, you do have those symptoms so get some help.
Alfred…any time your posts go beyond about 20 line, I’m willing to be nobody is reading them.