Consider tomorrow Judgment Day for a Findlay teen who decided to take his girlfriend to her prom at her school.
Tyler Frost, 17, expects he’ll be suspended from Heritage Christian School and be prohibited from attending graduation. The Baptist school forbids dancing, rock music, and hand holding. Frost’s stepfather says the rules shouldn’t apply outside of school and he may take legal action if Frost is suspended tomorrow.
Of course what the media fails to discuss is the fact that the kids have to sign what amounts to an NDA to attend the school. In it they are prohibited from things such as this prom date! The preacher/principal makes his case on the website here.
What this tells me is that the Dad who is anxious to sue the school cannot .
at the beginning of the school year, every family must sign a statement of cooperation. Students in 7th through 12th grades must also sign it. It doesn’t say that you have to agree with them, but that we will all abide by them. What kind of a school would we be if we suspended a policy because it was convenient to do so?
There is nothing that these idiots are teaching worth learning. Being suspended would be a good thing. Perhaps this student can attend a real school now.
I agree Rob, a dose of reality will do the kid a world of good. I hope that school isn’t publicly funded.
Alfred, what are your wingnut thoughts on this? Any good quotes?
BTW, remember that rational question I posed the other day? You’re starting to sound like Hannity’s latest responses to when he’s going to get waterboarded.
Well, it’s the school’s right to decide what actions by students are appropriate. It’s a very conservative Baptist high school, and having gone to a private high school myself, I can see their point.
But there’s no way in hell I’d ever send my kids there. No chance.
I sounds like John is correct and there is no cause for action on the part of the parents. However ridiculous the schools rules may be, the parent(s) and/or student agreed to them and have no basis for expecting them to change to accommodate the son’s desire to dance, hold hands and/or listen to Elvis.
This reminds me of when I used to live in Lynchburg in the late 1980s. The story goes that Liberty University forbade students from going to movies. The student leaders would hang out at the movie theater and bust kids going in or leaving and write them up. I was told that this stopped when the movie theater threatened to sue the school. Just what I heard but I heard it from a lot of people down there.
I assume your sysop doesn’t have such a policy in the Reality Church… 🙂
my understanding is that in most states a minor cannot sign a valid contract.
What a conservative christian school has strict rules? Next thing you’ll tell me that a Catholic School would kick a girl out for getting an abortion…
If you don’t like what your church believes in then find another church.
“…And they can be a target of criticism too…”
It’s shame though, when other ‘groups’ are criticized all that’s ever heard are shouts of “Racist”, “Homophobe”, etc, etc. Followed by marches, boycotts and riots.
Just doesn’t seem fair – that either the criticism is penalty free OR that some groups are overly sensitive…depending on the perspective.
Having looked at their website, I can only come to one conclusion.
If you are stupid enough to send your child to this crazy school, then what the hell do you expect ?
I think that maybe the poor kids who get sent to this place should take some advice from the bible.
Matthew 10:21
“And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.”
🙂
Show em the “Footloose” movie and they will figure it out.
Oh, and for those of you like me who love to get bible quotes to shame christians, try this website:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
Sorry, the right to do things like attend a dance, particularly off school property, cannot be signed away. Sorta like saying you can sign away your right to not be beaten up. No matter what you sign, you can’t be assaulted ’cause it’s a violation of your rights. Period.
The parents signed the agreement. They can’t ask for a change of rules when the rules do not suit them, when they agreed to the rules in the first place.
This is news? It’s a private school, they can set whatever rules they want, and as long as the attendees and their parents are signing off on the rules, then I don’t see where the problem is, or why we, as the general public, have any say in anything regarding this.
First law.
DID the kid sign the contract?
WAS he a minor?? UNDER 16, NO CONTRACT is valid..
I pass Findlay on my way home from college. I might make a little detour.
What bothers me is the title chosen for this posting. Much more than the article.
We live in free society in which there is the right to sign the contract and in which order is maintained by obeying the contractual obligations. Unless someone shows me evidence that the school forced this student and his family to sign the contract under threat of beheading or such, there is nothing Taliban like here to see.
On the other hand, trivialization of the term taliban as the original poster did in the title is without any merit. Please feel free to use “taliban” for any situation where religious fringe of any kind forces unwilling participants to obey under threat of death. Otherwise, it is just plain hatred for the people who chose to be religious in their own peaceful and lawful manner, no matter how that manner differs from your choices in life.
Proper title? “American family and child want benefits without responsibilities”
The kid may have signed the contract but so did the Dad and he did have such a right and it will probably be found to be a valid contract. Now if the kid were to turn 18 prior to the graduation then that could be interesting.
Why is that I find, usually, when you have a Church or School with “Christian” in the name They don’t seem to be very Christlike at all?
To me when I picture Jesus in my mind (Grew up Catholic, bu that was a long time ago) he would seem much more tolerant to me? You should visit Heritage Christian School’s so called mission of faith… http://heritagefindlay.org/index.cfm?i=6416&mid=3
if indeed, As they state “We believe in His power to save men from sin” then wouldn’t they let the Kid go and let God keep the Kid from sinning? (unless of course “His Power” refers to the Principal).
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They did the kid a favor!
They agreed to it until it didn’t suit them….no sympathy. If they wanted him to live a normal lifestyle with contacts outside the circle of Christians, why did they send him to this school in the first place?
Detroit is seaside? hehe Yankee textbooks.
Note that the attached map shows the new and improved Great Lakes; both of them.
The next thing you know they will only let girls study up to 6th grade and make them eligible for marriage.
The American Taliban is more like the ACLU as both are trying to knock down religious symbols.
I know, it’s only rock n’ roll – but I like it.
# 24 I think you’ll find that these people are referred to as American Taliban because, like the Taliban, they don’t believe in the separation of church and state. Also because they have archaic attitudes and morals, and tend to be extreme in these beliefs.
“Curiously I have never seen a mention of rock and roll in the Bible”
It’s the rock that was rolled away from Christs’
tomb.
Make a joyful noise unto the lord, all ye lands. psalms 100.
There’s nothing in the bible against music and dancing.
It’s irrational to try to prohibit kids things they’re gonna do anyways, unless it’s an adult trying to shirk off their parental responsibility, then it’s irresponsible.
The Afghani Taliban acted the same as what the “American” Taliban is accused of. Not every action by the Afghani Taliban resulted in death, PLUS there are several instances of religious wing nuts killing in the name of their god. These fanatics are praised by other wing nuts, such as Alfred1.
Depending upon the Judge, a contract that offends the conscience is usually invalid. If this reaches that level the Judge might over rule it or amend it so that while the student gets credit for all classes, he isn’t allowed to attend graduation.
#26, Also because they have archaic attitudes and morals…
Funny how moral codes that evolved over countless generations of human interaction are deemed “archaic” after just a couple decades by youngsters who think they know better.
I’m not defending a ban on boys and girls holding hands, but maybe if we didn’t so easily scoff at longstanding norms of civility and decency, we wouldn’t feel such a need to create laws governing every little aspect of our lives.