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Utah Governor Jon Huntsman, Jr. and a “pure” Republican |
A Michigan Republican says she canceled an event set to be attended by Utah’s moderate GOP governor because it would have betrayed the party’s values.
Kent County, Mich., Republican Chairwoman Joanne Voorhees canceled the party fundraiser scheduled for Saturday, which was to be attended by Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr…
“The voters want and expect us to stand on principle and return to our roots,” Voorhees was quoted by the Grand Rapids Press as saying in an e-mail. “Unfortunately, by holding an event with Governor Huntsman, we would be doing the exact opposite.”
Voorhees didn’t specify in the e-mail why the fundraiser was canceled, and she didn’t return calls to the Tribune. However, the group Campaign for Michigan Families praised the cancellation, saying it was because of Huntsman’s support of civil unions for same-sex couples.
So, Republicans are going to win elections – by turning away Republicans who win elections?
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From CNN:
As to the future of the GOP, Steele wasn’t overly optimistic, maintaining that the outlook of his party isn’t great as of now.
“Well the future lies down the road a bit. I mean, look, I’m not going to sit here with, you know, pie-in-the-sky talking about, you know, how wonderful things are. They’re not,” he said.
But like his Republican colleague, Olympia Snowe, Steele insisted there is room for moderates in Republican Party, saying the notion that the party is exclusive “is just crazy.”
Alfred, your leader has spoken. Unless….he’s not the real leader of the GOP…
#38 Serious though was being given to a third party…but the Republican Party is the ONLY successful third party in history…so we conservatives have decided to remain, and run the RINOs and moderates out.
Was that the royal “we” or the editorial “we”? Have you’n’Rush been toying with this idea for a while, then?
But seriously, I appreciate it when someone takes a firm and principled stand, no matter how clueless or self-destructive it might appear to be.
Maybe you could summon all card-carrying Republicans to a meeting, an inquisition if you will, to determine whether they are worthy to remain in the Republican party. Bad news: boiling in oil for the RINOs and moderates is no longer a possibility… people are so wishy-washy, not like the old days! 😉
Thanks. Is this quote recent?
Traditionally RNC chair IS the leader, but Rush is attempting to change that. How can it possibly work? When Specter’s GOP opponent needs cash, along with dozens of others, who’s going to have it? Not the GOP, if Rush has his way. And will ideologically pure Republicans take cash from the inclusive GOP?
Will Rush start paying for campaigns? Yeah, right.
Rush is leading the GOP into a tar pit, and you know how long things stay there, right? He does…
In Soviet Russia, comrades of impure political philosophy sent to gulag.
In Soviet America, gulag sends *you* to comrades of impure political philosophy!
#38, Alphie, Evangelical, Sociopathic, Right Wing Nut, Loon, Limbaugh Sycophant, and Quaalude Queen,
…but the Republican Party is the ONLY successful third party in history…so we conservatives have decided to remain, and run the RINOs and moderates out.
So only the pure remain. Your own inquisition. Soon, all RINOs will need to wear a donkey on their chest and “donate” their goods and money to the Party.
>Traditionally RNC chair IS the leader,
No he isn’t. Check out Jay Cost’s HorseRaceBlog for some detailed posts on this. The party chairmen are all about fundraising, and candidate support.
MikeN, you got a link to a specific article?
Regardless, how does a frakken radio host become this powerful…one who cannot and will not ever run for office? IMO he’s in this for personal gain which contradicts the needs of the GOP and the USA. GOP loses, he wins. Think it through…
#47, Jimmy Heel,
Hey, your fly’s down.
#47 James Hill-The Foot odor said…“Personally, I think the Obama supporters should be rooting for Huntsman.
I disagree. The Obama supporters should continue to let the GOP rot away w/o any help.
When that eventuality happens, the remaining loonies latch onto existing related organizations (ie. KKK, Palin groupies, etc) and simply disappear as a political influence.
#44, Alphie, Evangelical, Sociopathic, Right Wing Nut, Loon, Limbaugh Sycophant, and Quaalude Queen,
So instead of following a democratically elected leader, you end up obeying a neo-con mouth piece that is out for himself, NOT the Republican Party. That fits right in with the rest of your rambling, disconnected, stooopid comments.
And who is to say that your brand of conservationism is any better than Steele or Spector’s brand is disingenuous. These are the guys that have been doing the heavy lifting, not your flashy greedy radio shock jocks.
Oh this is good:
The more often Americans go to church, the more likely they support torture !! WOW what a surprise.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/30/religion.torture/index.html
#52 Dang… and the fundies love torture most of all:
White evangelical Protestants were the religious group most likely to say torture is often or sometimes justified — more than six in 10 supported it. People unaffiliated with any religious organization were least likely to back it. Only four in 10 of them did.
So much for religion having a civilizing effect on people…
In the article it sounds like a dullard who doesn’t know anything about history is talking. The party faithful of both parties vote the party line because they have no other valid options other than stay home and let the other party run the country.
The war and the election is determined by the independents who pretty much think both parties smell like a herd of skunks. The independents vote for the person they think is most moderate in nearly all cases though appearing competent and trustworthy certainly matters.
That sounds like a pretty heavy endorsement for keeping religion out of politics. Hmmm.
#59 Alfie, your torture question is pure 100% hypothetical, no chance of it happening in the real world. It is pointless to ask people what they would do in a situation that has a 0.0000000001% chance of happening.
You torture fans are just trying to rationalize your support of torture. That’s good! Deep down somewhere in you, you know it’s wrong, otherwise you wouldn’t feel compelled to make bogus arguments to convince others to agree with you. So there’s hope for you yet. 🙂
Regarding religion and government: England has a state church. Church attendance is much lower there than it is here. People who want a state religion here should be careful what they wish for. Alfie is smart fundie to want to keep religion out of the government.
#64, Alphie, Evangelical, Sociopathic, Right Wing Nut, Loon, Limbaugh Sycophant, and Quaalude Queen,
A few years back, I regularly taught Health and Safety classes. You are the kind of person that falls in the first group; you make things happen. It is too bad that that is the most dangerous group to be around.
Yes you make things happen. Only you don’t think about what you are doing. You have no regard for your actions or the effect on other people. You myopic view is so self centered that all you can see is how something effects you.
People like cut corners. You chose the expedient way over the safe way. Your way too often has the consequence of injuring someone else. But, because it is your way, you won’t see the dangers present.
The worst problem with your type is that they refuse to see the light. It doesn’t matter if it is an industrial setting or driving a car. The odds are you are much more likely to be in an serious accident than someone who can think rationally.
Thankfully I am not you. Or like you.
#59, Alphie, Evangelical, Sociopathic, Right Wing Nut, Loon, Limbaugh Sycophant, and Quaalude Queen,
If someone kidnapped and injured my family I would wish the worst on them. BUT that is why we have a police department that will investigate and (hopefully) bring the perpetrator to justice and a judiciary that will prosecute and judge him impartially.
Sure I could extract my revenge and I might even feel good about it. The chances are pretty good that I might find the wrong person and injure an innocent person. Would you care?
America is built on respecting our laws and institutions. Why do you hate America? Why do you hate yourself?
#55 Alfred1 said “So you wouldn’t resort to torture to learn the location of wife and children who were being brutally tortured, sexually assaulted, bodily disfigured, and slowly executed?
Alfred1, interesting set of conditions but we’re talking about a broad government “policy” that is both prohibited by treaty obligations and immoral.
Incidentally, do you support abortion under the “right conditions”?
# 55 Alfred1 said, in part:
“#52 So you wouldn’t resort to torture to learn the location of wife and children who were being brutally tortured, sexually assaulted, bodily disfigured, and slowly executed?”
and, in post #59:
“Would you torture the one who knew where your parents/wife/children were being tortured…who smile and laughed in your face he was happy they would die horribly, after being tortured without mercy?”
Oh, don’t you just HATE it when that happens? I know I just HATE it when that happens. Oh man, if I only had a nickel for every time that happened to me, I WOULDN’T EVEN HAVE A SINGLE NICKEL! AND NEITHER WOULD YOU!!!
How’s this: what if that guy knew the answer to a really, really hard riddle, but he wouldn’t tell you the answer? I mean a really, really, REALLY hard riddle! How about if he cut you off in traffic and you missed the light at the corner and you were just really royally pissed off? How about then? How about if you just didn’t like his attitude? How about if you didn’t like his sexual orientation, national origin, choice of church and/or his skin color or the way he holds out his little finger when drinking his tea? Where does it stop?
You like quoting from the Bible; here’s one from Matthew, Chapter 22:
37 And He said to him, ” ‘YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.’ 38 “This is the great and foremost commandment. 39 “The second is like it, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ 40 “On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”
There was something in there about turning the other cheek, too. Funny, I don’t remember anything in there about torture…
The Republicans are acting like losers, hence they’ll lose. The Democrats finally learned that doesn’t work so they’re winning.
Too bad there isn’t anything in the Bible about being smart.
#72, Mr. Baggins,
There is. It’s that blank page at the very back.
#71, Alphie, Evangelical, Sociopathic, Right Wing Nut, Loon, Limbaugh Sycophant, and Quaalude Queen,
#68 Its not surprising you don’t understand scripture…why should it be different from everything else.
Because it is made up of fairy tales. Tha worst thing though is how you, and most self righteous holy rollers, like to pick specific pieces that fit their argument instead of the general theme of the message.
Do you really think Jesus would condone torture? Look inside yourself and tell us that Jesus would have purposely inflicted pain and suffering on someone else in order to achieve an end.