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The home secretary, Jacqui Smith, today ruled out building a single state “super-database” to track everybody’s use of email, internet, text messages and social networking sites such as Facebook and Twitter…
Instead the Home Office is looking at a £2bn solution that would involve requiring communications companies such as BT, Virgin Media, O2 and others to retain such personal data for up to 12 months.
Isn’t that a halfway George W. Bush kind of solution? Pay your Telco buds to do the spying?
Instead communications companies are to be required by legislation to ensure that all traffic data – who sent a text to whom at what time and from where – is collected and kept in Britain. They will also be asked to store additional third-party data crossing their networks including phone calls and internet use from outside Europe.
This goes far beyond the current data collected for billing purposes. The companies will also be asked to organise the data – for example, matching it where it relates to the same person so that the authorities can access it in a form that is immediately usable.
Doesn’t sound any less creepy.
Yet another story about how Libs are screwing up the U.K.
And who is going to pay for the terrabytes of data this is going to generate?
Store it in the rawest most unintelligible format possible. “Here’s the 10 terrabyte binary file you requested, its all in there, good luck finding what you are looking for.”
Will people start to “unplug” as a result of these measures?
Will there be a time where the postal system becomes the means by which the criminals and the honest communicate?
#1 – so, you know even less about politics in the UK than the US. No surprise.
and this from the gibroni that claims back expenses for her husbands porn habit
FOR WHAT? Why the HELL is it this bitch’s business what I write in an email?
How would this be received if Obama announced that they were going to keep a recording of every phone conversation you ever make, keep photocopies of every letter you ever wrote, and keep track of every computer key you ever push?
Oh, wait, it’s O-fucking-bama…that means it must be good. Nevermind that one.
Instead, why not just install spy microphones on every telephone pole and record everything anyone says? Does the phrase “1984” come to mind?
Why not x-ray Google street and satellite maps to see what the fuck you are up to inside your house?
What the HELL is going on with this world? I am aware, and I am happy with my preparedness.
ahh subcontracting. 🙂 I feel better about it now. 🙂
I love how people try and paint this as liberal vs Conservatives. Stupid sheep. Both Britain and the US have 1 party, the Oligarchy.
Based on their definition of traffic data, communication in online games would be included.
Going on a WoW raid with a suspected pedo, could make you a suspect too?
Holy shit that’s a lot of data to be stored “just in case we need to check up on you”
Typical political BS. Here in Spain they tried the same thing. Didnt work of course. Currently telcos log, they dont track or monitor on a large scale nor do they have the hardware to do so. In order to do so, enormous investments in hardware and infrastructures must be made. In these times of economic crisis I would expect some serious foot dragging on the part of the telcos, more likely flat out noncompliance.
By using outside contractors, both the government and the contracting companies get a measure of protection. The companies can say they don’t like it, that they are just following the law. The government, when the inevitable data breach or attribution foul-up occurs, can distance itself from the problem by blaiming the contractor. Cmpletely predictible.
How can I, a non-british subject, prevent any of my traffic from ever reaching those shores?
I already do not travel there because of this sort of foolishness. Nor do I buy british-made goods or support british companies. Now I have to keep my electronic bits out of their country, too. Anyone know how this can be acomplished?
If I cannot route around britain, perhaps the opposite approach would be effective–forcing all of my traffic through britain. If everyone did that, the amount of data to be intercepted and stored would be truly huge, but the proportion of useful data would be vanishingly small.
I wish I could say britain should do as we do and rely on court orders and judicial review to target such efforts. Alas, the spy on everyone approach seems to be what we are doing too. So I won’t complain too loudly on that score.
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Faxon
Please take 4 grammes of soma now.
Outsourced intelligence. Like gossip, only expensive.
..this is wrong on so many levels.
has everyone on the planet just completely ignored history?
me thinks it will come back to bite them in the arse, hard.
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This will end up being just another pig in the poke solution to terrorism (or to keeping control of the citizens). And the telcos will get money for (doing) nothing. This won’t be made public that they aren’t or can’t pull it off. But some telco executives (who are politically connected) will get fat off the citizens for pretending to do it. Or for just doing it a little bit (a token job). Is this worth billions?! Like torture, what true effectiveness does all this expensive monitoring and records keeping, really have in stopping terrorism?
2 fucking billion? All to save the children from the so called army of pedophiles who stalk the streets at night, and the terrosts who are squatting at every street corner that the government and media would have us believe. If they really cared that much about stopping these things, that 2 billion could be just spent directly on getting the pedos and terrorists. Maybe if when we did find one of these people we didnt let them go with a slap on the wrist every time it might help too. Its a complete waste of time and money, and completely immoral. If you’re a terrorist, how is this gonna stop you? You would just use a proxy or a VPN. it takes like…5 seconds to set up. If anything, this is gonna make potential terrotists, pedos, etc even more consious of being tracked and force them further of the radar in terms of detection. We were able to detect them with a pretty high success rate before. I don’t see any need for this.
I also run a large website which is hosted on a uk server. It is also very popular with Americans. Say “hi”, youre on candid camera!
Massively intrusive and, sadly, a massive waste of money. 99.9999999% of what is collected is going to be of no interest to anybody ever.
I can’t help but think that a somewhat more targeted approach would give better results and save 90% of what is going to be wasted.
#18 said, “You would just use a proxy or a VPN. it takes like…5 seconds to set up. If anything, this is gonna make potential terrotists, pedos, etc even more consious of being tracked and force them further of the radar in terms of detection.”
Can’t argue with that. If they have the smarts, it’s all AES 128 bit or better encrypted. VPN– the only way to go.
Everyone is forgetting the *****REAL***** story. Does anyone really think that no government pencil pusher or Corp IT guy will “with reason” look into CEO XYZ’s records and get the inside scoop on upcoming mergers, quarterly numbers, and other juicy and profitable tidbits?
Why aren’t companies in an uproar about sensitive data protection?!
# 11 amodedoma said, “Typical political BS. Here in Spain they tried the same thing. Didnt work of course.”
Zapatero, another typical left wing loon.
Great, they’ll have a bunch of dot heads do it for them.
#13 – That wasn’t Bush, that was Cheney. He’s actually the one behind this database too.
What a load of rubbish! The Home Office needs pull their heads out of their ass if they think this will be up and running for £2bn.
You know we’re dealing with all this crap, just so we can import foreign trash into this country and keep up slave freetrade and become part of a NAU/Globalist one world dictatorship….? Really you’d think with all the written history we’d have more educated individuals capable of seeing what’s happening, what morons the Left are.
Even while Stalin was sending the people to their deaths in the Gulag system they wrote trying to inform the very individual that was sending to the death camps, but all we can remember is Hitler….we haven’t learned anything.
Whatever………………
Traaxx
Outsorced to India where they know how to take care of all your personal data. 🙂