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President Obama will speak at Notre Dame’s commencement on May 17. That is an honor to some, but an outrage to others.
Some alumni have called the campus saying they have thrown away their Fighting Irish sweatshirts in disgust. The local bishop, John D’Arcy, has vowed to boycott the graduation ceremony. A visiting high school senior, Halley Chavey, who said she was thrilled just weeks ago to be accepted here, said she might reject the offer because the college was hosting “the most pro-abortion president we’ve ever had…”
“Most of us are like, ‘Wow, the president of the United States is coming,’ ” said Brett Ensor, a Texas native who belongs to the Knights of Columbus, opposes abortion and voted for Mr. Obama’s Republican opponent, Senator John McCain. “What college wouldn’t want Obama to come? This is a tremendous honor for us…”
Notre Dame is regarded as an academic powerhouse and conservative Catholic bastion. But in a mock election here in November, Mr. Obama defeated Mr. McCain among students by about 11 percentage points. He won roughly the same margin of victory among Catholic voters in the national election…
In the view of the Rev. Richard McBrien, a prominent liberal theologian at Notre Dame, the commotion over Mr. Obama centers not on faith, but on politics.
“This crowd,” Mr. McBrien said, referring to conservative Catholics, “are simply Republicans who are upset that Obama won the election — and they want to pick a fight.”
Pretty accurate characterization of American Catholics in the article. Including their divergence from monocultural obedience as required by the Vatican.
#109,
That you are a retard, and militant, makes you a militant-retard.
First you are militant. Lets define that shall we? From Encarta – “aggressive: extremely active in the defense or support of a cause, often to the point of extremism”
Next we need to define retard. A quick look in the urban dictionary reveals: “A person born with a mental condition and therefore has to work a million times harder to be able to do simple things (such as learn and communicate) that we take for granted.”
You are a person who is determined to remain ignorant to the point of extremism. It has organic causes. You are a militant-retard.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/072005100K6.htm
They were already protected. And when the militant-retard bill passed in 2005 it had all the corrections to it that Obama demanded before he supported it.
It was a militant-retard attempt to semantically make abortion illegal. Deal with it.
#105, Alphie, the Quaalude Queen,
Queenie, I think you’ve been taking too many ‘ludes man. Your link said nothing, oopps, let me restate that NOTHING about forcing any physician or hospital to perform abortions. In other words, an effen straw man argument.
So please find some evidence that shows Obama wants to force physicians and hospitals to perform ANY procedure against their will.
Judging by your hatred of Christianity, its position against homosexuality in particular, and your habit of calling men “Queens” or other feminine names…that you are a homosexual with an agenda…
You are the one who decided to refer to Bobbo and myself as homosexual when we are both happily married to good women. You seem to enjoy that too. I don’t refer to you as “Queenie” in the feminine, but hey if you like the nomenclature, then great. Glad you aren’t offended.
Now it is unlikely that will get you anywhere with Obama…he is married…to a woman.
Which is a far sight better than your position of being married to your right hand. Yet, you judge him by the standard that most conservatives have set for themselves. Not only a silly position, but quite hypocritical.
#109, Billy Bob
So nobody including Catholics would disagree with you in this case.
If only that were true. The local Bishop excommunicated everyone that participated in the procedure, including the mother of the child, the physician, the nurses, and the police. Their position was quite strict, no abortion for any reason at all even when the health of the mother is in question or in cases of rape.
#109, Billy Bob,
Here, read this,
I misspoke earlier. I should have mentioned she was actually pregnant with twins.
my gay employee
Ruh roh.
#114 Thank you for bringing this case to my attention I wasn’t aware of it.
It appears that the bishop’s position centers around whether the outcome could have been managed to a solution where everyone survived, for example by early inducement. The story about the girl’s uterus being too small, for example, is belied by the fact that the termination occurred at 20 weeks, just short of viability. The girl seems to have sadly become a football tossed around by political interest groups.
It’s a very difficult moral dilemma and I agree that that bishop totally mishandled it.
Isnt a persons SOUL, his own responsibility?
NOT YOURS or MINE.
The Only JUDGE, is God.
If Obama were a 14yo white kid with blond hair, blue eyes and a ripped six pack abs I’m sure the Bishop would have attended him with an open crotch.
#120, Alphie, the Quaalude Queen
Queenie,It’s a very difficult moral dilemma and I agree that that bishop totally mishandled it.
CNN? Never trust the media to report accurately…today they are advocates for particular positions, completely in the tank for most left causes and Obama….
You didn’t even read the effen story !!! How can you condemn them if you don’t even know what happened?
You claim the media is in the tank for Obama, is that why you are having such a difficult time finding some evidence that Obama sold drugs? Or that Obama will force doctors to perform abortions? You can’t find anything even among your wacko religious sites?
You dispute CNN, which is a reputable news gatherer. Yet you prance out with this book called the bible and expect us all to fall flat believing every word in it.
That is why no one is taking YOU seriously.
/stage left
even though i hate taxes with a vengeance.
this is absurd..Catholicism, like the rest of the mainstream religions need a serious update. -short of banishment.
lets have some fun, shall we?
for starters..i say take away their tax exempt status. -add to that, for every *unwanted child* they insist on birthing, charge the local church $500 a month per child. if they’re so gung-ho about life, charge’em for the privilege.
that should take some of the wind out of their sails.
we have an overpopulated planet. if the church causes a child who would have otherwise been aborted, to be carried to term, hit’em, where it hurts. -in the wallet.
—ok, enough of that nonsense.
personally, i don’t care for obama’s policies one bit, -esp his cabinet picks. i think he and his cronies will lead this country to ruin.
..however, if the student body wishes to enjoy the privilege of our country’s President
speaking at their commencement address, i’d be pretty peeved if a bunch of religious zealots couldn’t sit down and stfu for one lousy day so
as to enjoy the honor of having the President
speak at the school.
-even though the CiC seat has been reduced
to puppet status, there are still those
young “innocents” who deserve to experience
the euphoria and electricity of the
Presidents visit on campus before they get
their political cherry popped.
-that is a real right of a US citizen, imo.
-s
#126, Queenie,
Again, this is why no one takes you seriously.
From my local (South Bend) TV station, the only station I can get on the TV in the kitchen, which uses an HDTV converter.
http://wsbt.com/news/local/41712217.html
(check out this anti-rapture exposure which just stared at me from a web site – Joseph)
FOR PRETRIB RAPTURE REPEATERS
Congratulations! You are now fulfilling the Bible which says “Come now, and let us repeat together.”
Be sure to repeat what Walvoord, Lindsey, LaHaye, Ice etc. repeat what their own teachers repeat what their own teachers repeat etc. etc. etc.!
Repeat that Christ’s return is imminent because we’re told to “watch” (Matt. 24, 25) for it. So is the “day of God” (II Pet. 3:12) – which you admit is at least 1000 years ahead – also imminent because we’re told to be “looking for” it?
Also repeat the pretrib myths about the “Jewish wedding stages” and “Jewish feasts” (where’s your “church/Israel dichotomy” now?) even though Christ and Paul knew nothing about a “pretrib stage” and neither did any official theological creed or organized church before 1830!
You should read “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty” on the “Powered by Christ Ministries” site to find out why you shouldn’t repeat everything your pretrib teachers repeat.
Do I have to repeat this?