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Two US navy vessels have collided in the Strait of Hormuz near Iran, lightly injuring 15 sailors, the US navy said. A nuclear-powered submarine, the USS Hartford, and amphibious transporter the USS New Orleans collided early on Friday, the US Navy Fifth Fleet said.
The incident is being investigated and damage to both ships is being evaluated, a navy statement said.
The New Orleans’ fuel tank was ruptured in the crash, causing a spill of 25,000 gallons of diesel.
No injuries were reported aboard the New Orleans, according to the statement from the Fifth Fleet, which is based in Bahrain.
The atomic propulsion system of the submarine was not damaged by the incident, the statement said.
The US Fifth Fleet…patrols an area of about 7.5 million square miles of sea in the Middle East and eastern Africa. You’d think with that much room they could keep from running into each other.
“you are wrong practically, philosophically, historically and – – – ”
Well, that’s a fundamental difference there. I believe that we (as in the US) don’t owe anyone any moral, philosophical or any other kind of historical obligation.
Our only obligation is our magnanimity in letting others live on the face of this earth, and other nations have to subserviently earn that privilege.
We are militarily so vastly powerful than anyone else (everyone else put together too?). Why should we not use that to our advantage? Why tie our own hands with international law?
Why should we argue with anyone that our territories have to be respected? Our military posture should be such that no one would dare interfere with us..
I am a strong proponent of such a robust military posture. We need Presidents who would order gunboats into Tokyo Bay to get what “we” want despite what “they” want….
can you say…BEEP BEEP..
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#31–Santa==I only wish what you say is true. Ever play “The International Game of Conflict” or RISK? No one can win if everyone else hangs together. ((You do have to modify the cards to limit the award of armies.—just like reality does.))
Every No 1 World Power has lost that status by thinking they could beat everyone else combined.
I think its called hubris.
#31 Santa Maniac – George Bush is that you? Or did John McSenile finally learn how to use the interwebtubes?
This is what happens when you have a volunteer military. How STUPID can a person be to enlist for military service? You get losers and crack heads that can’t get employment anywhere else in the real world.
Some complete and utter drooling piece of SHIT said,
Our only obligation is our magnanimity in letting others live on the face of this earth, and other nations have to subserviently earn that privilege.
We are militarily so vastly powerful than anyone else (everyone else put together too?). Why should we not use that to our advantage? Why tie our own hands with international law?
Why should we argue with anyone that our territories have to be respected? Our military posture should be such that no one would dare interfere with us.
I hope you mouth off like that and get the crap beaten out of you some day.
#31- you’re joking, right?
I sure hope that this is all just sarcasm on Santa’s part.
Otherwise Santa is a complete idiot.
Turn left. No, MY left!
#31–and Santa==I didn’t respond to this important part of your missive: “Well, that’s a fundamental difference there. I believe that we (as in the US) don’t owe anyone any moral, philosophical or any other kind of historical obligation.” /// You misperceive my concern completely. The owing or debt is to ourselves, not others. The concern to recognize our own limits of power springs from complete self interest. How silly and simply wrong headed you are.
I don’t understand why some people here are almost ashamed of our own country’s power and influence?
Might is right…
We do as we please…
Why is that such a reprehensible thought? Greed, for profits, resources and military power… is good.
What’s wrong? Our land is limited and population is growing, we ought to look for expansion at other people’s expense. Our forefathers did that here in the New World, I don’t see why we should not try that elsewhere.
If someone wants to stop us – so be it. See you on the other side of a cruise missile. Fair and square.. stop us if you can.
As an aside, pick up “The Next 100 Years” by George Friedman. Very interesting, not only about future predictions but our place in terms of geopolitical interests and capabilities.
I don’t know anything about the navy but I do know those straights — they are very narrow and very busy.
#44, Yes, the skies, too, are darned near empty, until you get near a major hub. It’s why there are facilities like TRACON (approach / departure control) and towers and ground control.
It’s not any leap of the imagination to understand why two ships would collide in those busy waters.
Here’s some live radio from DFW or other TRACON and tower facilities. Best time to listen is around 5-7PM local time.
http://liveatc.net/flisten.php?mount=kdfw