Microsoft said shipping Windows 7 in Sept.
Microsoft could have Windows 7 on shipping PCs by September, Compal president Ray Chen said today at an investor’s conference. The PC contractor executive understands from plans that the software should be available in either late September or early October. The news would corroborate word of an April release candidate that would let Microsoft finish, manufacture and deliver Windows 7 well ahead of the holidays.
Upgrading From XP To Vista To Windows 7? Good Luck.
Has Microsoft really listened to beta testers beyond what’s crashing?
The antitrust judge is looking closely at Windows 7.
# 56 Paddy-O
You are so fucking stupid. Who said they have to use your network? Everyone I know has internet on their phones and they all use it. See you are so far in the box with your head up your ass that you are blind to the reality. Plus trust me if I wanted to I could easily side step any “control” you think you can place on access. Dolt!
#57,
Well we can’t all be business owning, sysadmining, helpdesking, software developing, security expert, electrical engineer geniuses, with civic engineering degrees.
Maybe I judge too harshly. There has got to be at least one of those out there;)
# 59 Somebody_Else said, “You obviously need 64-bit drivers and some programs that are deeply integrated into the OS like defragmenters and anti-virus programs have to be 64-bit”
64 bit viruses are almost non-existent.
I’ll run it in emulation on top of OSX. I’m actually using Server 2008 for most of my .NET dev work right now. But then, I’m only running VSTS, Sql Server, and IIS. And CC.NET, and Subversion, and ReSharper, and TestDriven.NET, and Toad to make VSTS less painful.
I will, only because I’m going to be replacing all of my household desktop machines in the next couple of weeks and they’re all going to come with Vista 64. Windows 7 is really just Vista SP2, it will fix a lot of the bugs and instabilities that Vista has, and it won’t be the ridiculous resource hog Vista is, so once it comes out, I’ll be upgrading the system.
Otherwise, I’d stay with XP if I had a choice. While I can buy systems downgraded to XP, those choices are becoming harder and harder to find, especially on higher-end machines.
# 60 Paddy-O
And I bet my turnover is better no matter how you measure it. I also bet I get more productivity per employee than any large company. Why? Because I treat them well and they enjoy working here. I don’t treat them like criminals who are looking to steal from me. That is why I don’t need to “control” their access.
#63
“64 bit viruses are almost non-existent.”
The more you talk the more clear it is that you don’t build computers or do sysadmin work.
64-bit Vista/XP/7 need anti-virus software that is compatible with a 64-bit platforum. I didn’t say anything about 64-bit virii.
#65
“and it won’t be the ridiculous resource hog Vista is”
Facepalm
# 67 Somebody_Else
“The more you talk the more clear it is that you don’t build computers or do sysadmin work.”
Did it really take you that long to figure him out? LOL 🙂
# 66 J said, “And I bet my turnover is better no matter how you measure it.”
Yes, I’m sure your two employees are quite stable. Mom & Dad are very loyal.
#66,
I feel bad being the one to break this too yah…
You only don’t know how your employees are stealing from you… You need to find out if it is big theft or little theft post haste.
It was a lot more than bringing new things to the table. Out the door the thing didn’t work. It WAS IN FACT comparable to ME has MS insisted ME was okay and tried to patch it over.
Doesn’t matter what all the Vista enthusiasts think. Up until a few months ago Vista wouldn’t Run our business’s most important program “American Contractor” and that alone kept a big chunk of the construction industry from making the switch. And now it’s too late in the game, they won’t the industry is going to wait out Vista.
It is what it is.
#71
Is it Microsoft’s fault that the software maker took so long to update their software? The vast majority of 32 bit software runs fine on Vista.
Comparing Vista (a fast and stable OS) to ME (which was an unstable POS) makes no sense whatsoever. If anything its more like Windows 2000.
Vista was a big move comparable from moving from the old 98 series of kernels to 2000 with the NT kernel. It broke some software compatibility but it was worth it in the long run.
# 70 GregA
“I feel bad being the one to break this too yah…”
If you mean Post-It notes and pens I don’t consider that stealing. To me that is a benefit of the job.
I am confident no one steals from me. The reason most employees steal from their employer is that they feel cheated or underpaid. I pay 30% more than the industry standard. I also have a kitchen that I stock with almost any request. Booze is the only thing I won’t buy at request. There is too much liability and I have under 21’s working for me. Anything else I get them. I offer them a full paid trip to places like Universal Studios, Disney World, Disney Land every year. I have very flexible work hours. The rule is let me see your face a majority of the time and get your work done on time and we are good. NO ONE abuses it. As a matter of fact they are all here more than 50 hours a week on the average. They have 2 weeks vacation separate from the one I pay for. They have another week sick days. They have full medical dental and eye coverage for themselves and their partner and kids. I also let them use the equipment for their own projects as long as it doesn’t interfere with our work.
They make me a lot of money so I feel obligated to treat them as assets not slaves.
Now ask yourself. Who in their right mind would risk pissing me off by stealing. No, I am quite confident they are not stealing from me.
Hey J, need a tech? =)
It’ll be interesting to see what the IT uptake will be (or planned to be). Vista only has a 9% uptake with NA IT shops greater than 500 desktops which is way behind XP at the same point.
Why take the chance with W 7. At best, I’d wait 6 months for them to work out the problems.
Seems Soft is trying to get the stock price up with getting W 7 by Sept.
If thet let Ballmer go, the stck would jump a couple of bucks. MSFT 16.59. Back to 1997 for Soft.
I’ve installed and tested Win7 7000 as well and I like what I see. No major improvements but enough for me to switch from XP.
Vista is bloated, even when compared to Win7. Win7 is like 8gigs and Vista is like freaking 15gigs or so. Explain to me how they managed to keep most of what Vista has and maintain 8gigs. Surely it can’t be programming because it’s an OS (sarcasm). Everything is programming. The programming is bloated.
In either case, I’m satisfy for what I need from Win7 to upgrade. For compatibility I’ll run Virtual OS 🙂
#77
The 7 Beta only uses slightly less disk space than Vista. You can see a good breakdown of what takes up space here:
http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2008/11/19/disk-space.aspx
Printer drivers alone take up more than 4 times as much space as the core desktop code.
Its important to keep in mind that XP is an ancient operating system compared to other major OS’s currently availible. Even some of the lighter Linux distros with the Gnome or Xfce GUI are more “bloated” than XP. Nice looking icons, interface components, drivers for thousands of types of hardware and so on take up a lot more space.
The whole “Vista is bloated” thing is nonsense. As I said in an earlier post, Vista caches frequently used applications to RAM. It releases that RAM if another application needs it. It’s not bloated, its using the RAM you paid for to make your system more responsive.
I’ve figured it out. Microsoft just update my computer with windows 7 and shut up.
# 78 Somebody_Else said, “Its important to keep in mind that XP is an ancient operating system compared to other major OS’s currently availible.”
Include Vista & Windows 7 in the ‘ancient’ category…
Windows 7 was the original code name by Microsoft. However, some argue that Windows Vista was the seventh version. According to the timeline of Windows XP’s kernel, it was tagged as version 5.1 and then 6.0 for Vista. In reality, Windows 7 would be the seventh version of the kernel. The original XP kernel was built from Windows 2000. The originally Windows 2000 kernel was built from Windows NT.
#80
Windows 7 would be the seventh version of the kernel. The original XP kernel was built from Windows 2000. The originally Windows 2000 kernel was built from Windows NT.
What’s your point? Windows NT6 introduced a completely new codebase and driver model, which is why Vista is so much better (and why it took several months for drivers to mature).
Its just the name. There’s nothing ancient about Vista/7.
#77 I’m with you. I do not have Win7 installed but it has been demonstrated to me on a number of systems (big and small) and I like what I see. It’s a winner.
My company;s IT department also is on board (and they rejected Vista).
I’m in for 64bit plunge as I do lots of media work as a hobby. As far as backwards compatibly goes, you are right on – virtualization . That technology is here and mature and the way compatibility should be.
# 81 Somebody_Else said, “Its just the name. There’s nothing ancient about Vista/7”
You obviously don’t work in security.
#83
You’re obviously a troll.
I voted “day of release” for my Windows machines.
@J
You hiring? My current employer is so tight with a dollar that if you put a bill between their butt cheeks it would turn to diamond. For example, we are still running Pentium Pro Netware file servers. Oh, the pain.
I am working with Windows 7 (build 7000). Advantages:
» You can pin applications. Only after trying it you can understand it.
» You can drag and drop task icons in the taskbar. (You could with previous versions, but after installing third-party applications).
» Leave the mouse over a taskbar icon and a preview of the Window appears. You take the mouse over the preview and the respective window comes to the foreground. All the other windows display only their glass borders.
» You drag a window to the top to have it maximized. This is about usability.
» You drag a window away from the top to have restored. You drag a window to one of the sides of the desktop and it is partially maximized at that side.
» The WinKey becomes much more useful. For instance, you can use the WinKey to launch pinned applications without having to grab the mouse, and with only one key selection.
» The calculator is much more powerful.
» Shutdowm options were streamlined. Now, it makes sense again.
» Libraries allow for an intuitive logic equivalent of Unix symbolic links. They are even more powerful, as you can combine several different target folders into a single library.
» Performance. Vista is left in the dust.
» There is not a single recent document list in the start menu, but each application can have its own.
» Energy. The most obvious is a slight dimming of the screen backlight when the computer is not being used, even if connected to the power plug.
» Shadow-copy. This is equivalent to MacOS X Time Machine.
» Stability. I just hope the RTM is as stable as the Beta (7000)
» Drivers. More drivers. Most of the drivers are available automatically through Windows Update.
The bottom line is: Windows 7 is what Vista should have been in the first place.
#86 Improbus,
I bet your bosses are Chinese 😉
Look! I found a picture of O’Paddy
http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/simpsons-cop.jpg
Great security!
I am using the current beta and the only problem I’ve had so far was the nVidia driver and they just patched that. I’ll get 1 copy of 7 just to keep current.
#46–J==original resolution? I convert everything to DivX and still have @15K Gigabytes on DvD. I use a spare computer as a media server of sorts. Data storage can’t get too cheap for me. Sure would save a lot of hassles. Thanks.